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    #221

    Mar 19, 2013, 07:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what, a perfect correlation and statistics also prove that the more incentive you give to industry the bigger their bank balance
    Like your country doesn't do the very same thing... or every country would have the robust economy of the average African nation.
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    #222

    Mar 19, 2013, 08:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Like your country doesn't do the very same thing...or every country would have the robust economy of the average African nation.
    Smoothy, my country doesn't do pork barrelling, and legislation stands alone, sometimes incentives are offered in the taxation system, but they are more like early writeoffs in industries where there is high risk and sometimes subsidies are offered to keep industries onshore but we don't give incentives to take industry offshore. Our political system is more transparent than yours because our leaders have to face questioning in the house everyday, they don't like it but it happens and we have a system where a budget is presented and passed every year or the whole thing will shut down. A government that cannot get a budget passed will go to an election
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    #223

    Mar 19, 2013, 08:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy, my country doesn't do pork barrelling, and legislation stands alone, sometimes incentives are offered in the taxation system, but they are more like early writeoffs in industries where there is high risk and sometimes subsidies are offered to keep industries onshore but we don't give incentives to take industry offshore. Our political system is more transparent than yours because our leaders have to face questioning in the house everyday, they don't like it but it happens and we have a system where a budget is presented and passed every year or the whole thing will shut down. A government that cannot get a budget passed will go to an election
    Yeah... and there is no poverty in Australia... everything is perfect and nobody has ever done anyone else wrong... ever... yada, yada yada...

    You are the perfect sheeple... they have you well trained to believe everything they tell you to believe.
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    #224

    Mar 19, 2013, 08:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yeah....and there is no poverty in Austrailia...everything is perfect and nobody has ever done anyone else wrong...ever.....yada, yada yada....

    You are the perfect sheeple....they have you well trained to believe everything they tell you to believe.
    Well let's put it this way there is less poverty in Australia than there is in the US and we do intervene to address specific issues. If we have an inadequacy it is in the way we deal with boat people (illegal immigrants). The CIA factbook gives the US a 15% poverty rating but doesn't bother to provide the Australian statistic, after tax transfer measures suggest we are at least 3 - 4 % lower than USA, but real poverty, difficult to measure as it isn't obvious except in remote areas

    Australians are very skeptical this is why the Labor (socialist) government will be out of office at the next election, we cannot be easily bought
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    #225

    Mar 20, 2013, 04:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.

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    Slash ? Lol this isn't even a holding the line... this is a slight reduction in the rate of increase in spending .
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    #226

    Mar 20, 2013, 04:53 AM
    I wonder what we wold see if we took an Australian style razor gang to your budget
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    Mar 20, 2013, 04:59 AM
    I'm for deep slashing... like bringing spending back to 2008 levels initially ,and further to Clintoon era spending... The Dems should agree to that since they think the Clintoon era was the 'good ole days' .
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    #228

    Mar 20, 2013, 05:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.

    excon
    Most of my services are local. Yours too I'm sure.
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    #229

    Mar 20, 2013, 05:23 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.

    excon
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    #230

    Mar 20, 2013, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.

    excon
    Bwaaaaahahahhahaaa haha ha


    I got a good laugh out of that...

    When was the last time a Democrat ever did anything that was good for the country?

    Wasn't that under John F Kennedy? And wasn't that the Space program?
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    #231

    Mar 20, 2013, 06:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.

    excon
    Like a good conservative I look at the facts, not the BS. I don't think it's good for the country to spend $57.72 per person for lunch or $44 per person for breakfast for GSA employees. Or this:



    I don't see the point of half a million to study shrimp on a treadmill, 20 holiday parties at the White House or a Senate barber shop that loses money. Do you?
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    #232

    Mar 20, 2013, 06:53 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    If the congress wanted to END those programs, they COULD have put it in the Sequester.. They DIDN'T. Apparently, they thought Obama would make the cuts HE deemed necessary, and he IS.

    So, if you have a problem with spending, I'd go to the source.

    excon
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    #233

    Mar 20, 2013, 06:59 AM
    So then... Obama is making the choices of what gets cut so its all Obamas fault for deciding to inflict maximum pain... not Congresses.

    This is on your lefty demigod... not the conservatives.
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    #234

    Mar 20, 2013, 07:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Apparently, they thought Obama would make the cuts HE deemed necessary, and he IS.
    Thank God Obama saved us from White House tours.
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    #235

    Mar 20, 2013, 07:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Thank God Obama saved us from White House tours.
    And Easter Egg hunts .
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    #236

    Mar 20, 2013, 07:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and Easter Egg hunts .
    Well he saved the money do he can spend it on a few more Hawaii golf outings.
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    #237

    Mar 20, 2013, 01:47 PM
    The man has class
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    #238

    Mar 20, 2013, 01:56 PM
    You mean gas. Or is it grass?
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    Mar 20, 2013, 01:59 PM
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    #240

    Mar 20, 2013, 02:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    You just can't make that stuff up. Or this, courtesy of Ireland...

    CIGARETTE-smuggling continues to soar in Ireland, with new Department of Finance figures showing that tobacco excise tax receipts are falling dramatically short of targets, even though taxes have increased and the number of people smoking has remained constant at 29 per cent of the population.
    Let that highlighted part soak in for a few minutes, lefties...

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