I don't need to be there . I am relying on the testimony revealed and the judgement of the very liberal progressive Swedish justice system.
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I don't need to be there . I am relying on the testimony revealed and the judgement of the very liberal progressive Swedish justice system.
There is no testimony. Where did you get transcripts of a court case when it hasn't gone to court?
Right... not testimony... allegations revealed .
I accept your apology.
Wikileak will probably help condemn the main opposition leader in Malaysia to death.
I don't want to hear anymore that these leaks are not causing severe damage.
The reformist opposition leader ,Anwar Ibrahim, has been accused of having sex with a male political aide. The punishment for this is 20 years to death in Malaysia .
Ibrahim has denied the charge and has called them politically motivated.
But Wikileaks released a stolen document dated to 2008 . In the cable ,a Singapore intelligence official is quoted as saying to an Australian intel official that Ibrahim “did indeed commit the acts for which he is currently indicted” .
The Malaysian press has been quick to pick up the leak and headlined that Singapore's spy agency verified the sodomy .
The leaks are not causing severe damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I don't know where you live but in most places you cannot be convicted on hearsay. Look it up.
In the conservative Muslim nation of Malaysia you can.
We really should get a conservative muslim to offer their opinion on this versus someone who hates them.
Assange seems to be angry with everyone now. Not a good thing to have an angry man with that kind of information.
I would be too if I were held on trumped up charges and people I don't know were calling for my assassination.
Some dipstick leaking secrets is upset that the someone leaked things about him. Cry me a river, did he expect people to play nice after holding the world hostage? I don't think so, karma's a b*tch as they say.
Darth Vader: "The hate is strong with this one."Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
He also falsely claimed that he leaked the Climategate emails. The man is delusional .
There is nothing trumped up about the Stolen Classified Documents...
Wonder how you would feel if he was stealing and selling medical records and credit card numbers that might include YOUR personal information?
And Nobody yet has presented any evidence the Rape charges are trumped up either... other than a scumbag on the run internationally who has committed other high profile crimes claiming otherwise.
I'll bet more than a few rape victims would take serious offense to insinuations that the women making the allegations are lying about it.
After all, I haven't seen anything Assange has said or done yet that wants to make me believe he is anything but a lowlife scumbag.
After all, his actions thus far make John Gotti seem like a legitimate businessman.
I'd like to see Assange steal and post Obamas Colllege Transcripts and Birth Certificate. If he was as good as he claims lets see him pull that one off.
You know the left and misogyny .
While they try to carry the mantle of women's rights they defend the likes of Assange and Roman Polanski... and they remain mum about the abuse of women by jihadistan.
You forgot defending the cases brought against Bill Clinton as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Actually there has been no evidence of rape provided at all, just an allegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
That's the nature of this type of case. The woman had previously agreed to have sex with him and is suggesting that the issue is that he initiated more sex while she was asleep. Which would be a crime under Swedish law, but would not be something where evidence could be collected. Of course you know the charges were brought at an earlier time and dismissed.
We only know WHAT certain elements have wanted us to know about that case... and most of them were friendly to Assange. Obviously there WILL be a lot of evidence that is NOT released to the public by the prosecution... and certainly not before the actual trial. There was clearly enough evidence to not only get an arrest warrant issued, but to go through the trouble to pursue an extradition.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That's a whole lot of trouble to go through for someone "that didn't do anything" as claimed by his supporters.
Sweden isn't exactly known as the land of kangaroo courts... if he was innocent as his supporters claim... that should be easy for him to prove and legally put to rest, IN SWEDEN in the courts there. After all its hard to find a more lefty friendly place than that in the world.
The right to an American style of presumption of innocense doesn't exist in every part of the Western Europe much less the entire world. And he certainly is neither American nor on US territory.
Hi Tom,Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Is the above a dictionary definition of, 'misogyny?'
Yes . There are many examples of this . We just finished an election here where the guy who is Governor-elect of California's staff was caught calling his opponent a 'whore'. Had that been a conservative the lefty's here would've made it a major news story for weeks. Instead it was brushed off as no big thing.
Hello tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Your outrage rings hollow... The left may hate women, but the right hates black people... Not too long ago, the wingers leading talker, Rush Limbaugh sang a tune called "Barrak the Magic Negro". When confronted about this racism, it was brushed off as no big thing...
excon
PS> By the way, I don't care if Assange is a rapist or Manning is gay. What I CARE about is the leak.
Not that I am a Rush defender... But...
.. which came 1st ? Rush's parody song... or this LA Slime Op-ed by black jounalist David Ehernstein ?
Obama the 'Magic Negro' - latimes.com
Hello again, tom:
Here's where you go wrong. It's my understanding that Limbaugh parodied the poem first written by Ehrnstien... To you, that excuses the limp one because he's SECOND, and the FIRST racist was BLACK, for crying out loud. Therefore, the limp dudes second hand racism doesn't count.
But, it does.
excon
Hi Tom,Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I think the article is suppose to be a parody of your society.
Tut
I think the article is condescending nonsense. The only ones looking for the "magic negro" are liberals. They're constantly looking for ways to assuage their guilt on behalf of the nation, reparations for slavery, war crimes trials for Bush and Cheney, apologizing to the world for America, etc.
I don't need any "magic negro," I've never had an issue with racism.
My god, liberals seem to be such bad people as you describe them!
I didn't describe liberals at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Nah .He cites Wikipedia... the uncorruptable source of all knowlege .Quote:
Originally Posted by TUT317
Well there is this just above my last post.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Like I didn't know that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hi Tom,
You means like this...
Parody - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The poor baby Assange has been crying about information about him being leaked out...
Boo Hoo Hoo... look at the pot calling the kettle black.
Hello again,
You know, it wasn't very long ago when we were allowed to go about our business in private, and the government was the one who had to act transparently...
Now, with your full support, that dynamic has reversed itself... The government gets to operate in secret, while the NSA reads our email and intercepts our phone calls... Oh yeah, they're also taking lap tops and cell phones away from people at the border and downloading ALL the data, plus they've enlisted your local cops to aid in the terrorism threat...
Who, amongst you, thinks it will stop there?? ALL of you, I guess.. I don't think it's Going to stop till they can look up our collective a$$ - with your full approval, of course.
Dudes! You're losing the country...
excon
Hey.. want to talk about a full circle... wasn't the democrats of the 60's all about putting down "Big Brother". Now they ARE big brother. You came of age during that era... John F Kennedy would be spinning in his grave with what the Democrat party has become today.
As far as Assange... hey... what goes around comes around. He shouldn't dish it out if he isn't man enough to take it.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
To be accurate, it was George W. Bush who began the illegal spying... But, Obama DIDN'T stop it. I guess losing our Fourth Amendment rights isn't a partisan issue...
excon
Really, you actually believe that? THAT apparatuse was in place LONG before even George Bush Sr. ever took office... much less W.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Funny how it was fine for Bill Clinton to do it... not to mention FILEGATE... when Hillary didn't even have the legal standing to do it... but the Democrats protected her when she committed Contempt of court.
USA PATRIOT Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Quote:
The USA PATRIOT Act (commonly known as the "Patriot Act") is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Of course I believe it. It's TRUE, after all.
On April 7, 2006 AT&T provided National Security Agency eavesdroppers with full access to its customers' phone calls, and shunted its customers' internet traffic to data-mining equipment installed in a secret room in its San Francisco switching center, according to a former AT&T worker.
excon
Really... you have to stop reading the left wing tabloids that pretend to be serious journalism. Because that's been going on for decades BEFORE that. Just because the New York Times or Katie Curic doesn't report it doesn't mean its not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Really... contrary to what the left wing brain is capable of comprehending... NOTHING new happened under that which wasn't already happening for decades...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Do you really believe the NSA, CIA and a number of other agencies suddenly winked into existence the date that act was signed... incidently... by a majority of DEMOCRATS.
Boy the left is really out of touch with reality. Because I have dealt with that stuff since the early 80's. And it wasn't new then by any rational definition.
I know the national phone and data infrastracture really, really well... its been my livelyhood for 30 years now. I know the equipment... I know the systems... I know its capabilities. And yeah... there are a LOT of different equiment... but they all operate to certain standards that allow them to interface with each other. If you worked in this industry long enough you would understand what I am saying there.
If you are THAT paranoid... then you would know well enough you don't say anything electronically you wouldn't want someone to hear and more than you would in any crowd. Once its out on the internet... you can't take it back. Photos or words. Its cached someplace, by someone.
And know what... I'm not afraid because I haven't said or done anything to be paranoid about.
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