You're preaching to me about making distinctions and can't distinguish between stating a goal and starting a rumor??
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You're preaching to me about making distinctions and can't distinguish between stating a goal and starting a rumor??
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Let me see... In order to pursue his goal, one guy BLOCKS everything Obama tries, and doesn't CARE that doing so RUINED the country's credit rating, and cost the taxpayers MILLIONS.. You think THAT guy is wonderful..
The OTHER guy gave an interview to a newspaper. He didn't harm the country at all. Good for Harry Reid.
excon
Your side does it your way, my side does it our way, and it is OUR turn, so duck or catch the pie in the face.
You will know when we throw rocks like you guys do. They aren't so tasty.
If you two don't beat all. You sit here on these boards day after day swerving and weaving and bobbing and otherwise contradicting yourselves about the very things you've been preaching against. Perhaps you could both use a chiropractor.
Dingy Harry doubled down... Romney is guilty until proven innocent.
Welcome to the new progressive America, where a businessman can't build it himself without government benevolence, can't believe in marriage without threat of government force, can't refuse to violate his conscience by buying abortifacients and contraceptives for his employees, and Senators can accuse you of federal crimes based on a rumor and put the burden of proof on you.Quote:
“I am not basing this on some figment of my imagination,” Reid said in a telephone call with Nevada reporters. “I have had a number of people tell me that.”
Asked to elaborate on his sources, Reid declined. “No, that’s the best you’re going to get from me.”
“I don’t think the burden should be on me,” Reid said. “The burden should be on him. He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes. Why didn’t he release his tax returns?”
What federal crimes did he accused him of?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Correction, accused him of not paying taxes for 10 years. I had tax evasion on my mind. See, I admit when I make a mistake.
I still think its worth seeing if "paying what he legally was supposed to" means he paid nothing at all on his millions, see as how he is in the business of tax shelters and shellcompanies to hide investments for himself and other.
Its especially crucial since he is pushing for an even BIGGER tax cut for himself and other elite rich guys, while I have to pay for it. Me my kids,and grand kids.
Romney Tax Plan on Table. Debt Collapses Table. - Bloomberg
Oh come on Tal, Reid is being an a$$ plain and simple.
Yes he is, but his point is well taken... a rich guy for president that has paid no taxes and is giving himself a bigger one? Come on Speech, even you have to question that one. You trust his word, but I would like some VERIFICATION of the facts.
How is that wrong? And what part of his tax plan sounds good to YOU? Or is it more liberal mischief?
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ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL???
No sir, I did NOT fall for the birther crap and I sm not going to humor the Democratic Senate Majority Leader over an anonymous rumor. This is one one of those things we should both be able to agree on so the burden is on you to either take a stand on what's right or well, be a hypocrite.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Let's review... We're talking about McConnell here, who wants to win an election SO badly, that he single handedly RUINED our credit rating, and cost our taxpayers MILLIONS of $$$'s.
And, on the other hand we have a Senate Majority leader who wants to win an election SO badly, that he's willing to tell a lie..
Here's my stand on what's RIGHT... Leader Reid is. It ain't even close.
excon
You lost me! What do you want from me? I have always wanted more facts from Mr.Romney. More verification before Harry Reid came out with his allegation. I have said so many times in this and other threads. Should I back down from that now?
So both of you are now huge fans of conspiracy theories started by rumors. Obama is a Socialist Muslim from Kenya who sucked at Harvard. His birth certificate is a fake. And Harry Reid has been in a relationship with Barney Frank for years.
I'm the one that alleged this so the burden of proof is on them.
Oh dear, I see we've sunk down to the level again.
But ours not only have a point, they're actually funny.
*startled* Harry Reid? I thought it was a cartoon of someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I would have thought the name "Harry Reid" above it might have been a good clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Lets get back to facts that we have or are you intentionally ducking the plan that Romney has ONLINE.
What parts do YOU like? Need a link?
Tax
Facts? Ha ha ha... Reid is blowing rumors out his a$$ and you want to talk facts?? What facts does he have?? How many tax returns has he released? Why is his rumor more substantial than mine?? He's gay, prove me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
So, you get pissed that Reid is spreading rumors, but you were FINE with the LIE that is STILL circulating about "you didn't build that"..
Why don't you slam that? It's an OUT and OUT lie. When are YOU going to do the right thing?
IF Reid is lying, all Romney has to do is show us the returns, and then Reid will BE the fool he LOOKS like. Wonder WHY he doesn't do that...
excon
Lets get this straight, you prefer stuff that people blow out their a$$ to facts?? DUDE!?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Well so much for the right having discussions based on facts, it's all feelings and emotions.
Why did Obama wait so long to release his BC? Why won't he release his Harvard transcripts? Why doesn't Reid release his tax returns? You have a double standard, ex.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
They're siding with a rumor and I'm the one that's abandoned facts? Bwa ha ha ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Tal asked you here to comment on the facts of a matter but you totally dismissed him and would rather call someone gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Dude, I'm not the one that votes for liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
That made no sense and was totally irrelevant. Do you have anything substantial to add?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Under Obama, a Record Decline in Government Jobs - NYTimes.com
PolitiFact | Paul Krugman says government jobs have fallen by half million since January 2009
Obama has been shrinking government since he got here, you would think the Tea Party would be happy about that. It should be noted that previous republican presidents lowered the uneployment rate by making more government jobs.
Government Cutbacks Separate This Expansion From Others - Real Time Economics - WSJ
And reined in regulations
Obama Wrote 5% Fewer Rules Than Bush While Costing Business - Bloomberg
Everything the Tea Party and the Republicans say they wanted. Yet all we get is gloom, doom, and more hollering,and a bunch of BS about liberals.
And they get offended when we call them loony! If they weren't distracted by what comes from a guys butt, or a females vagina, you think we could be doing better?
Of course we could.
Do you even have a clue?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Um, you sure you want to use this as a measure of accomplishment?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
From your source:
Quote:
That record, which will seem a dubious distinction to public-sector employees, is largely a result not of federal policy but of shrinking state governments.
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But if teacher employment is the measure, the cuts have been greater under Mr. Obama. Education jobs at the local level are down 3 percent under Mr. Obama, compared to 2.1 percent in the early Reagan years.
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Federal employment fell 1.3 percent in 2011, but for the three years it is up 1.3 percent, while the total fell by the same amount in Mr. Reagan’s first three years.
Smaller state governments, fewer teachers and more federal workers. Yep, that's a record Obama should be running on.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
"You didn't build that..." -Barack Hussein Obama, 2012
So, you love that LIE so much, that you put it in your signature, huh?? When are you going to start acting RIGHT?
Excon
Apparently you didn't read the first quote. It all makes perfect sense, no lie necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
P.S. I still want to know if you love rumors or hate them. Or does it just depend on who it hurts?
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Refer me to where you denounced the rumors of Obama's birth certificate. I'll wait.
excon
What you think I was going to not wants facts, no matter who they favored??Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
But that's what you said you wanted,a smaller government! Still not happy huh? Okay lets shrink it some more. Let me know when it's the right size.
You tell me when Obama shrinks the size and scope of the federal government.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Just this once. For starters...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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And at least twice in this thread.
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Never question me on it again, please.
And by the way, you should be reminded AGAIN it was Hillary supporters that started the birther nonsense, not conservatives.
Your turn.
Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Steve, what ever you have here it is not good. You are making out that Addams supports the loss of personal achievement and that the individual should be content to realize his activity within the many.
If you provided the whole quote and not just a small part of it you would realized that Addams is not actually arguing for this position.
Here is the full quote:
When the entire moral energy of the individual goes into the cultivation of personal integrity, we all know how unlovely the result may become, the character is upright, of course, but too coated over with the result of its own endeavor to. In this effort toward higher morality in our social relations, we must demand that the individual shall be willing to lose the sense of personal achievement, and shall be content to realize his activity in connection with the activity of the many.
It was the role of women partaking in charity work during this time, to develop the moral character of the poor. What Addams is saying is that this effort is resulting in an opposite outcome. Rather than developing individualism it is actually developing the wrong type of individualism. [edit]
Tut
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