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  • Nov 23, 2011, 12:03 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No they don't Steve. A few maybe, but as a whole they want FAIR.

    They don't want fair, Tal. It isn't fair to demand that others take care of them. It isn't fair to disrupt the lives and livelihoods of others. It isn't fair to demand their student loans be forgiven. Take care of your own self and get out of the way just as I do, that's fair.
  • Nov 23, 2011, 12:09 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That's just one of the groups influencing and financing the movement. You'll see.

    Hello again, Steve:

    So that cartoon is their official position?? See, here's the problem again, you don't really want to SEE what they're about, so you just call them names, and get all hysterical.

    Now, I don't doubt that there are fringe groups that want to latch on... But, fringe ISN'T what the BULK of the movement is about. You'll see. Like you kept saying about the Tea Party, OWS is made up of ordinary Americans - young and old, working and not. It's a POPULAR uprising.. Just like the Koch brothers didn't start the Tea Party, the Communists, or George Soros, or NAMBLA didn't start OWS.

    excon
  • Nov 23, 2011, 12:32 PM
    speechlesstx
    Names? I just call them the occupiers, what should I call them, an "infestation"?

    Zombie, who always gets the pictures the media won't, posted a pic of the Occupy Oakland workshop schedule:

    http://zombietime.com/occupy_oakland...1/IMG_3912.JPG

    Gee, Marxism 101, Anarchism & Anti-colonialism, and I see at least 4 anti-capitalism workshops. Sounds like fun.
  • Nov 23, 2011, 12:34 PM
    tomder55
    Wait until their "general assemblies " goes national.
  • Nov 23, 2011, 12:44 PM
    talaniman
    So I should see the Tea party through Rush, and Grover, And Army, and that Cheney kid?
  • Nov 23, 2011, 01:48 PM
    speechlesstx
    Well apparently I'm supposed to see the occupiers through you, Tal.
  • Nov 23, 2011, 02:04 PM
    speechlesstx
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    P.S. I noticed this ad at the bottom of the page. Now there's a bailout I can endorse:
  • Nov 23, 2011, 02:09 PM
    talaniman
    Naw, just stating my case.
  • Nov 23, 2011, 03:22 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Gee, Marxism 101, Anarchism & Anti-colonialism, and I see at least 4 anti-capitalism workshops. Sounds like fun.

    Hello again, Mr. Hysterical:

    I see that you're alarmed... But, you should listen to your friend, excon... Communism is dead, and there's only a few dingbats who think it isn't. The dingbats found an audience. They're STILL dingbats...

    You're hearing this from a far left guy. Obama is MUCH too conservative for me. Everybody on your side calls him a communist and a Marxist. What would that make me? I'm not a communist. I'm not a socialist.. In fact, I don't know ANY commies in the Democratic party. That would be NONE.

    So, I know if you search the right wing websites, you'll find other hysterical people who'll agree with you and call names, and show some bulletin boards. They'll show somebody taking a crap, and otherwise give you something to be scared of... But, there isn't any bogymen.. Really, there isn't..

    excon
  • Nov 23, 2011, 03:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Mr. Hysterical:

    LOL, if were hysterical I'D TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND THROW IN LOTS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!! I get HYSTERICAL when my Big Bad Donuts lose to a 1-8 team.

    Quote:

    They're STILL dingbats...
    At least we agree that far. You do know that I'm not into conspiracies and the main reason I post things like the Occupy Oakland workshop schedule is to tweak lefties don't you? They won't listen to reason so why not give 'em a good tweak now and then?
  • Nov 30, 2011, 09:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    The nanny state lost one - or at least had a temporary setback. McDonald's seems to have outsmarted San Francisco on their Happy Meal ban.

    Quote:

    On Thursday, Dec. 1, the city's de facto ban of the Happy Meal commences. San Francisco has accomplished what the Hamburglar could not. Or has it?.

    It turns out San Francisco has not entirely vanquished the Happy Meal as we know it. Come Dec. 1, you can still buy the Happy Meal. But it doesn't come with a toy. For that, you'll have to pay an extra 10 cents.

    Huh. That hardly seems to have solved the problem (though adults and children purchasing unhealthy food can at least take solace that the 10 cents is going to Ronald McDonald House charities). But it actually gets worse from here. Thanks to Supervisor Eric Mar's much-ballyhooed new law, parents browbeaten into supplementing their preteens' Happy Meal toy collections are now mandated to buy the Happy Meals.

    Today and tomorrow mark the last days that put-upon parents can satiate their youngsters by simply throwing down $2.18 for a Happy Meal toy. But, thanks to the new law taking effect on Dec. 1, this is no longer permitted. Now, in order to have the privilege of making a 10-cent charitable donation in exchange for the toy, you must buy the Happy Meal. Hilariously, it appears Mar et al. in their desire to keep McDonald's from selling grease and fat to kids with the lure of a toy have now actually incentivized the purchase of that grease and fat -- when, beforehand, a put-upon parent could get out cheaper and healthier with just the damn toy.
    Next up, how to outsmart them on the circumcision ban?
  • Nov 30, 2011, 09:22 AM
    tomder55
    Hope they lowered the price of the Happy Meal by 10 cents .
  • Nov 30, 2011, 09:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Hope they lowered the price of the Happy Meal by 10 cents .

    LOL, and as one commenter said, rename it the "Liberty Meal."
  • Nov 30, 2011, 10:25 AM
    talaniman
    10 cents today, a dollar tomorrow.
  • Nov 30, 2011, 11:22 AM
    tomder55
    "Let them eat [sculptured chocolate] cake"
    First lady Michelle Obama enjoyed a lovely evening at Co Co. Sala on F Street on Monday night. A Yeas & Nays source tells us she dined with seven friends for dinner and, of course, dessert — which featured an edible chocolate sculpture and house-made artisanal chocolates by Chef Santosh Tiptur. We're told Obama's favorite savory was Chef Tiptur's Moroccan Swordfish Sliders with chermoula marinade, fennel salad, aged pecorino and hazelnut coffee dressing. The restaurant owners later posted to Twitter about their excitement of having her as a guest. “It was such an honor to have first lady Michelle Obama dine at Co Co. Sala last night. What an exciting and humbling experience

    Michelle Obama Eats Swordfish Sliders and Cheroula Marinade Getting Off Target For Campaign Re-Election Moody Eye View

    She then went to deliver the keynote address at an obesity summit .

    Michelle Obama keynoting obesity summit - Lynn Sweet
  • Nov 30, 2011, 11:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Did she take a doggie bag to Zucotti Park?
  • Nov 30, 2011, 03:37 PM
    tomder55
    Nah... doggie bags for the Zuccotti crowd ? That's beneath them... They only east fresh donated food.
  • Dec 8, 2011, 09:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Speaking of doggie bags and the nanny state, Clarence Otis Jr. a former Obama donor and the CEO of Darden Restaurants which include Olive Garden, Red Lobster and LongHorn Steakhouse, has joined the chorus saying regulations are preventing job creation.

    Quote:

    What's stopping job creation? Too much regulation

    "Businesses adding jobs" is a headline every elected official loves to read. Sadly, it's one that's getting harder and harder to find because of a policy and regulatory landscape that makes it increasingly difficult for businesses to see why and where creating new jobs makes sense.

    That's especially true for me and my colleagues in the restaurant industry, who find ourselves facing a plate piled high with more and more federal, state and local regulations.

    Regulatory mandates flowing from federal health care reform may be the most visible, but the list also includes measures such as new mandatory paid leave provisions that require us to change the way we accommodate employees who need to take time off when they are ill and ever more unrealistic requirements regarding employee meal and rest breaks that, in California for example, force our employees to take breaks in the middle of serving lunch or dinner.

    This reality is the result of the best intentions. Policymakers working in silos at every level are pushing through regulations that on their face seem to address admirable goals -- that are each directed at outcomes that seem desirable.

    The cumulative effect of these regulations, however, is significant damage to the hard-working Americans who are the intended beneficiaries.
    OK ex, all yours.
  • Dec 8, 2011, 10:37 AM
    tomder55
    Ex is a business owner.. what would Clarence Otis Jr know ?
  • Dec 8, 2011, 12:45 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Ex is a business owner ..what would Clarence Otis Jr know ?

    Hello wrong wingers:

    Let me see.. Maybe Dardin is a second tier restaurant chain, because when you're in a Red Lobster, you can't get a lousy napkin. They don't have enough help..

    ME?? When I have a customer who isn't getting served, I don't check with my list of regulations. I check with my list of candidates..

    But then again, I don't run a second tier operation.

    excon

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