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  • Mar 19, 2013, 07:21 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what, a perfect correlation and statistics also prove that the more incentive you give to industry the bigger their bank balance

    Like your country doesn't do the very same thing... or every country would have the robust economy of the average African nation.
  • Mar 19, 2013, 08:01 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Like your country doesn't do the very same thing...or every country would have the robust economy of the average African nation.

    Smoothy, my country doesn't do pork barrelling, and legislation stands alone, sometimes incentives are offered in the taxation system, but they are more like early writeoffs in industries where there is high risk and sometimes subsidies are offered to keep industries onshore but we don't give incentives to take industry offshore. Our political system is more transparent than yours because our leaders have to face questioning in the house everyday, they don't like it but it happens and we have a system where a budget is presented and passed every year or the whole thing will shut down. A government that cannot get a budget passed will go to an election
  • Mar 19, 2013, 08:21 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy, my country doesn't do pork barrelling, and legislation stands alone, sometimes incentives are offered in the taxation system, but they are more like early writeoffs in industries where there is high risk and sometimes subsidies are offered to keep industries onshore but we don't give incentives to take industry offshore. Our political system is more transparent than yours because our leaders have to face questioning in the house everyday, they don't like it but it happens and we have a system where a budget is presented and passed every year or the whole thing will shut down. A government that cannot get a budget passed will go to an election

    Yeah... and there is no poverty in Australia... everything is perfect and nobody has ever done anyone else wrong... ever... yada, yada yada...

    You are the perfect sheeple... they have you well trained to believe everything they tell you to believe.
  • Mar 19, 2013, 08:57 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yeah....and there is no poverty in Austrailia...everything is perfect and nobody has ever done anyone else wrong...ever.....yada, yada yada....

    You are the perfect sheeple....they have you well trained to believe everything they tell you to believe.

    Well let's put it this way there is less poverty in Australia than there is in the US and we do intervene to address specific issues. If we have an inadequacy it is in the way we deal with boat people (illegal immigrants). The CIA factbook gives the US a 15% poverty rating but doesn't bother to provide the Australian statistic, after tax transfer measures suggest we are at least 3 - 4 % lower than USA, but real poverty, difficult to measure as it isn't obvious except in remote areas

    Australians are very skeptical this is why the Labor (socialist) government will be out of office at the next election, we cannot be easily bought
  • Mar 20, 2013, 04:50 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.

    excon

    Slash ? Lol this isn't even a holding the line... this is a slight reduction in the rate of increase in spending .
  • Mar 20, 2013, 04:53 AM
    paraclete
    I wonder what we wold see if we took an Australian style razor gang to your budget
  • Mar 20, 2013, 04:59 AM
    tomder55
    I'm for deep slashing... like bringing spending back to 2008 levels initially ,and further to Clintoon era spending... The Dems should agree to that since they think the Clintoon era was the 'good ole days' .
  • Mar 20, 2013, 05:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.

    excon

    Most of my services are local. Yours too I'm sure.
  • Mar 20, 2013, 05:23 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.

    excon
  • Mar 20, 2013, 05:24 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.

    excon

    Bwaaaaahahahhahaaa haha ha


    I got a good laugh out of that...

    When was the last time a Democrat ever did anything that was good for the country?

    Wasn't that under John F Kennedy? And wasn't that the Space program?
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Like a good right winger you look to what benefits YOU. Like a good left winger, I look to what benefits the COUNTRY.

    excon

    Like a good conservative I look at the facts, not the BS. I don't think it's good for the country to spend $57.72 per person for lunch or $44 per person for breakfast for GSA employees. Or this:

    http://www.ministers-best-friend.com...as-hot-tub.jpg

    I don't see the point of half a million to study shrimp on a treadmill, 20 holiday parties at the White House or a Senate barber shop that loses money. Do you?
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:53 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    If the congress wanted to END those programs, they COULD have put it in the Sequester.. They DIDN'T. Apparently, they thought Obama would make the cuts HE deemed necessary, and he IS.

    So, if you have a problem with spending, I'd go to the source.

    excon
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:59 AM
    smoothy
    So then... Obama is making the choices of what gets cut so its all Obamas fault for deciding to inflict maximum pain... not Congresses.

    This is on your lefty demigod... not the conservatives.
  • Mar 20, 2013, 07:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Apparently, they thought Obama would make the cuts HE deemed necessary, and he IS.

    Thank God Obama saved us from White House tours.
  • Mar 20, 2013, 07:12 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Thank God Obama saved us from White House tours.

    And Easter Egg hunts .
  • Mar 20, 2013, 07:14 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and Easter Egg hunts .

    Well he saved the money do he can spend it on a few more Hawaii golf outings.
  • Mar 20, 2013, 01:47 PM
    paraclete
    The man has class
  • Mar 20, 2013, 01:56 PM
    speechlesstx
    You mean gas. Or is it grass?
  • Mar 20, 2013, 01:59 PM
    tomder55
    https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...87347802_n.jpg
  • Mar 20, 2013, 02:40 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:
    You just can't make that stuff up. Or this, courtesy of Ireland...

    Quote:

    CIGARETTE-smuggling continues to soar in Ireland, with new Department of Finance figures showing that tobacco excise tax receipts are falling dramatically short of targets, even though taxes have increased and the number of people smoking has remained constant at 29 per cent of the population.
    Let that highlighted part soak in for a few minutes, lefties...

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