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  • Dec 23, 2020, 10:56 PM
    Athos
    Why We Kneel
    4 Blackwater contractors massacred 17 Iraqi civilian two of which were children are pardoned by Donald Trump.

    Crystal Mason, a black woman in Texas, is serving five years for voting on supervised release when she didn't realize she was ineligible.

    Merry Christmas.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 06:04 AM
    tomder55
    If there were voter ID cards that would not have happened.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 09:59 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    If there were voter ID cards that would not have happened.

    Voter ID cards would have prevented the 4 thugs from murdering 17 civilians including women and children???
  • Dec 24, 2020, 11:18 AM
    jlisenbe
    And this causes people to kneel at the playing of the National Anthem? Hmmm.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 11:35 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And this causes people to kneel at the playing of the National Anthem? Hmmm.

    If you were Black, you'd kneel too.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 12:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    If you were Black, you'd kneel too.
    Not on the basis of what some Blackwater contractors supposedly did, and not of the basis of a woman being convicted of her SECOND felony and having to serve jail time. Besides that, you have no idea what I would do if I was black. Neither do I, for that matter.

    But we could certainly force twelve year boys to have vasectomies and cut off the right hands of thieves. That makes no sense in this context, but it made no sense the last three or four times you've made that suggestion, so I thought I'd just throw it in before you had the chance.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 12:08 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Not on the basis of what some Blackwater contractors supposedly did, and not of the basis of a woman being convicted of her SECOND felony

    That's not why Blacks kneel.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 12:15 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    But we could certainly force twelve year boys to have vasectomies and cut off the right hands of thieves.

    REVERSIBLE vasectomies. It would be a minimun of pain and wouldn't change anything except that they couldn't get a female pregnant. Thus, NO ABORTIONS!

    Those considering a stealing escapade would hopefully think twice (since BOTH hands would be cut off).
  • Dec 24, 2020, 12:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    REVERSIBLE vasectomies. It would be a minimun of pain and wouldn't change anything except that they couldn't get a female pregnant. Thus, NO ABORTIONS!

    Those considering a stealing escapade would hopefully think twice (since BOTH hands would be cut off).
    Welcome to the Moslem, communist states of America.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 12:32 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Welcome to the Moslem, communist states of America.

    If it works....

    (Muslim, not Moslem)

    (Communist???)
  • Dec 24, 2020, 02:13 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    If it works....
    I can only assume you are either joking or have lost your ever-loving mind. OR that you actually are a communist, and I honestly can't say I rule that out. After all, the distance between liberal dem and commie is not that great.

    "Moslem is an alternative spelling of Muslim. The words have the same meanings in all contexts, and both spellings have been in use for several centuries."

    https://writingexplained.org/moslem-...lim-difference

    I would say the word "communist" was used as an adjective and was not part of an official title, so it did not need to be capitalized.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 02:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    "Moslem is an alternative spelling of Muslim. The words have the same meanings in all contexts, and both spellings have been in use for several centuries."

    "Definition of Moslem

    formerly common but now old-fashioned, increasingly rare, and sometimes offensive variant of MUSLIM."
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Moslem

    Quote:

    I would say the word "communist" was used as an adjective and was not part of an official title, so it did not need to be capitalized.
    It was the beginning of a sentence that I decided not to finish.

    Use apostrophes correctly and I'll watch what I capitalize.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 02:48 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    "Definition of Moslem

    formerly common but now old-fashioned, increasingly rare, and sometimes offensive variant of MUSLIM."
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Moslem


    .


    It seems everything can be made to be offensive when you seek to be perfect in speech or politically correct

    what do you make of musleman
  • Dec 24, 2020, 02:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    "Definition of Moslem

    formerly common but now old-fashioned, increasingly rare, and sometimes offensive variant of MUSLIM."
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Moslem

    Then it's a tie.

    Quote:

    Use apostrophes correctly and I'll watch what I capitalize.
    There were no apostrophes in my sentence and none were needed, so I don't know what you are referring to.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
    tomder55
    Raven 23 & President Trump: The Team Deserves Pardons | National Review
  • Dec 24, 2020, 03:27 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There were no apostrophes in my sentence and none were needed, so I don't know what you are referring to.

    It was an earlier comment I made about your apostrophizing a plural, but you walked right over my comment.
  • Dec 24, 2020, 03:29 PM
    jlisenbe
    Mean ole me. I didn't realize you meant that comment about my apostrophe to be taken literally. 8D
  • Dec 24, 2020, 03:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Mean ole me. I didn't realize you meant that comment about my apostrophe to be taken literally. 8D

    Are you a Grinch???
  • Dec 24, 2020, 04:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    Literally or figuratively?
  • Dec 24, 2020, 04:52 PM
    paraclete
    literally of course, what else could you be
  • Dec 24, 2020, 05:22 PM
    jlisenbe
    What else? Figurative, of course.
  • Dec 26, 2020, 06:24 PM
    talaniman
    This is the complete list of dufus pardons...

    The complete list of Donald Trump’s pardons and commutations (yahoo.com)

    ...so far!

    People kneel to protest atrocities and bad acts by bad people who aren't held to account.
  • Dec 26, 2020, 06:26 PM
    paraclete
    yes a silent protest far better to stand up and shout
  • Dec 26, 2020, 06:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    yes a silent protest far better to stand up and shout

    Then you'll get shot.
  • Dec 26, 2020, 09:13 PM
    paraclete
    You are forever in danger of being shot
  • Dec 27, 2020, 06:38 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You are forever in danger of being shot
    Obeying the law minimizes that risk enormously.
  • Dec 27, 2020, 10:17 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Obeying the law minimizes that risk enormously.

    Not protesting is obeying the law?
  • Dec 27, 2020, 12:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Not protesting is obeying the law?
    Seriously?
  • Dec 27, 2020, 12:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Seriously?

    I have to always agree and keep my mouth shut?

    And as for protests --
    There once was a tea party in a port
    Not too far from a big fort.
    The tea was dumped into the sea
    Oh my, oh my, oh me!
    Afterwards, there were a lot of details to sort.
  • Dec 27, 2020, 06:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    No one has said you are always to agree and keep your mouth shut.
  • Dec 27, 2020, 07:13 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No one has said you are always to agree and keep your mouth shut.

    Thus, I can protest publicly.
  • Dec 27, 2020, 10:35 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No one has said you are always to agree and keep your mouth shut.

    How very liberal of you, and if your constitution didn't say that, what would you say?
  • Dec 28, 2020, 05:11 AM
    jlisenbe
    I don't even know why we are talking about it or why she brought it up. It's a non-issue and a given in America, and no one has suggested otherwise. I'm all for freedom of speech.
  • Dec 28, 2020, 05:52 AM
    paraclete
    Yes I notice you exercise it frequently
  • Dec 28, 2020, 06:20 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Yes I notice you exercise it frequently
    As do you, Mr. Pot.
  • Dec 28, 2020, 09:39 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't even know why we are talking about it or why she brought it up. It's a non-issue and a given in America, and no one has suggested otherwise. I'm all for freedom of speech.

    The thread is about kneeling in silent protest.

    So, you're all for freedom of speech but not for kneeling in silent protest. Got it!
  • Dec 28, 2020, 09:59 AM
    jlisenbe
    I don't care if people kneel in silent protest. Fine with me. Now I do have a freedom as well, and that is to not watch the sports where pampered millionaires want to kneel as though someone is depriving them of something. So it's a freedom that goes both ways. In the same way, people have freedom of speech and more power to them, but they don't have the power to force others to listen. Got it???

    For me, if you want to do something useful, then try and work in low income communities where your chances of being killed, not by a cop, and certainly not by a security contractor, but by a member of your own community is really, really high. The disgracing of the flag accomplishes nothing other than allowing that person to preen proudly and pretend he has done something really meaningful. It's on the same level as demolishing statues. Looks impressive, but doesn't improve anyone's quality of life by one cent.
  • Dec 28, 2020, 10:04 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Now I do have a freedom as well, and that is to not watch the sports where pampered millionaires want to kneel as though someone is depriving them of something. don't care if people kneel in silent protest. Fine with me

    Kneeling in protest is very similar to intercessory prayer, remembering in your prayer, or, in this case, your kneeling, others who are in pain and who are suffering.
  • Dec 28, 2020, 10:09 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Kneeling in protest is very similar to intercessory prayer, remembering in your prayer, or, in this case, your kneeling, others who are in pain and who are suffering.
    Perhaps that is true except, of course, that praying actually accomplishes something while kneeling does not. Do they kneel for the six thousand black Americans killed every year by other black Americans? Are those the ones in pain and suffering that they kneel for, or is it just really a political stunt?
  • Dec 28, 2020, 11:01 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Perhaps that is true except, of course, that praying actually accomplishes something while kneeling does not. Do they kneel for the six thousand black Americans killed every year by other black Americans? Are those the ones in pain and suffering that they kneel for, or is it just really a political stunt?

    Since helmets are removed and heads are bowed while kneeling, I'm confident prayers are being whispered. And yes, they kneel for Blacks hurt and killed unjustly -- and pray for an end to it. Nope, it isn't a political stunt.

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