[jlisenbe]

What else? Figurative, of course.

[talaniman]

This is the complete list of dufus pardons...

The complete list of Donald Trump’s pardons and commutations (yahoo.com)

...so far!

People kneel to protest atrocities and bad acts by bad people who aren't held to account.

[paraclete]

yes a silent protest far better to stand up and shout

[Wondergirl]

yes a silent protest far better to stand up and shout

Then you'll get shot.

[paraclete]

You are forever in danger of being shot

[jlisenbe]

You are forever in danger of being shot

Obeying the law minimizes that risk enormously.

[Wondergirl]

Obeying the law minimizes that risk enormously.

Not protesting is obeying the law?

[jlisenbe]

Not protesting is obeying the law?

Seriously?

[Wondergirl]

Seriously?

I have to always agree and keep my mouth shut?

And as for protests --
There once was a tea party in a port
Not too far from a big fort.
The tea was dumped into the sea
Oh my, oh my, oh me!
Afterwards, there were a lot of details to sort.

[jlisenbe]

No one has said you are always to agree and keep your mouth shut.

[Wondergirl]

No one has said you are always to agree and keep your mouth shut.

Thus, I can protest publicly.

[paraclete]

No one has said you are always to agree and keep your mouth shut.

How very liberal of you, and if your constitution didn't say that, what would you say?

[jlisenbe]

I don't even know why we are talking about it or why she brought it up. It's a non-issue and a given in America, and no one has suggested otherwise. I'm all for freedom of speech.

[paraclete]

Yes I notice you exercise it frequently

[jlisenbe]

Yes I notice you exercise it frequently

As do you, Mr. Pot.

[Wondergirl]

I don't even know why we are talking about it or why she brought it up. It's a non-issue and a given in America, and no one has suggested otherwise. I'm all for freedom of speech.

The thread is about kneeling in silent protest.

So, you're all for freedom of speech but not for kneeling in silent protest. Got it!

[jlisenbe]

I don't care if people kneel in silent protest. Fine with me. Now I do have a freedom as well, and that is to not watch the sports where pampered millionaires want to kneel as though someone is depriving them of something. So it's a freedom that goes both ways. In the same way, people have freedom of speech and more power to them, but they don't have the power to force others to listen. Got it???

For me, if you want to do something useful, then try and work in low income communities where your chances of being killed, not by a cop, and certainly not by a security contractor, but by a member of your own community is really, really high. The disgracing of the flag accomplishes nothing other than allowing that person to preen proudly and pretend he has done something really meaningful. It's on the same level as demolishing statues. Looks impressive, but doesn't improve anyone's quality of life by one cent.

[Wondergirl]

Now I do have a freedom as well, and that is to not watch the sports where pampered millionaires want to kneel as though someone is depriving them of something. don't care if people kneel in silent protest. Fine with me

Kneeling in protest is very similar to intercessory prayer, remembering in your prayer, or, in this case, your kneeling, others who are in pain and who are suffering.

[jlisenbe]

Kneeling in protest is very similar to intercessory prayer, remembering in your prayer, or, in this case, your kneeling, others who are in pain and who are suffering.

Perhaps that is true except, of course, that praying actually accomplishes something while kneeling does not. Do they kneel for the six thousand black Americans killed every year by other black Americans? Are those the ones in pain and suffering that they kneel for, or is it just really a political stunt?

[Wondergirl]

Perhaps that is true except, of course, that praying actually accomplishes something while kneeling does not. Do they kneel for the six thousand black Americans killed every year by other black Americans? Are those the ones in pain and suffering that they kneel for, or is it just really a political stunt?

Since helmets are removed and heads are bowed while kneeling, I'm confident prayers are being whispered. And yes, they kneel for Blacks hurt and killed unjustly -- and pray for an end to it. Nope, it isn't a political stunt.