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  • Mar 16, 2009, 08:32 PM
    Shiang
    How To Write a Song to the One I love
    Hiya. Lol I took your title. I'm so uncreative. 8)
    So I've gotten this much like an hour before I went to sleep this morning haha.
    Though I feel like there should be a different choice of words for a better flow. :(

    From the fairytale that brought me to you,
    I've always thought
    From the time you vanished
    I've never forgot
    And 'til now
    Like to love,
    A one-sided escalation
    The book I read
    And the one I'm reading,
    I love them both.

    However out story unfolds,
    Through stormy days
    Or muddy roads
    You'll still be my prince.
    Where you go
    I will come.
    Where I can't
    I will wait.

    I'll be there for you,
    I promise you.

    About the "River flows in you" video, it was very pretty! But a bit slow for me.
  • Mar 16, 2009, 11:57 PM
    Clough

    Hi, Shiang!

    I'm sorry that I wasn't on at about the time that I said that I would be. I was having some major connection problems, so I decided to do some major computer maintenance. It took a couple of hours.

    I will work on this. Please give me some time, though.

    Yes, the words could be somewhat different for a better flow. Many times, songs and pieces are written and re-written many times until things are just right.

    But, I do think that I get the idea of what you are trying to convey as far as the thought and meaning is concerned.

    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 06:18 AM
    Shiang

    That's all right. I fell asleep after I posted it haha.
    Computer maintenance causes connection problems?

    As long as it takes. :)

    Oh that's good. Most of the time I confuse people. [especially when I give driving directions haha]

    Thank you, Clough.
  • Mar 17, 2009, 02:10 PM
    Clough

    I figured that I had to try something to get things to work faster...

    I'll return later this evening to work on this, Shiang.

    I have a performance and then a rehearsal tonight.

    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 03:52 PM
    Shiang
    Okie dokie. Good luck on your preformance. c:
  • Mar 17, 2009, 09:32 PM
    Clough

    Hi again, Shiang!

    Here's a possible re-write of some of what you've written so that it has definite verses, meter, balance and some sort of chorus part.

    I'm trying not to leave anything out, and also retain your original thoughts, but I think that the order of sentences could work better for a song if placed in a different order.

    Quote:

    From the fairytale that brought me to you,
    I've always thought from the time you vanished,

    How the story unfolds, throughout stormy days,
    Through muddy roads, you'll still be my prince.

    Where you go, I will come.
    Where I can't, I will wait.

    To be there for you,
    I promise to you.
    Please let me know what you think.

    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 09:44 PM
    Shiang

    It sounds... so much better! :0
    Though seems like the second and third sentence says that it thought of how the story unfolds? :S
  • Mar 17, 2009, 10:25 PM
    Clough

    Sorry about taking so long to come back here, Shiang! After I wrote post #6, I couldn't get back on the site. Connection problems, again! Restarted my computer. Wireless connection doesn't seem to be working very well right now, so have switched to a dial-up connection.

    How's this one that's below?

    Quote:

    From the fairytale that brought me to you,
    I've always thought from the time that you vanished,

    However our story unfolds, throughout stormy days,
    Through muddy roads, you'll still be my prince.

    Where you go, I will go.
    Where I can't, I will then await.

    To be there for you,
    I promise to you.
    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 10:33 PM
    Shiang

    That's not a problem. :)

    That sounds good as well, but still with the lines two and three, I feel like they should be separate with a period or something. Like to say that I thought of him, but not think of a story, you know? Am I confusing? :s
  • Mar 17, 2009, 10:40 PM
    Clough

    I'm here and I hope that I'll stay connected!

    Would you please write how you would like them to be so that I know precisely what you mean?

    I'm thinking that the song should be in 3/4 time. The lyrics would need to fit that sort of meter then.

    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 10:56 PM
    Shiang

    I hope so too. :)

    All right I'll give it a go

    What is 3/4 time?
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:00 PM
    Clough

    3/4 time is three beats in a measure. It's called a time signature.

    Just please re-write those two lines to the way that you would like them to be, if you would be so kind.

    This is a song that's being developed, and there could be many changes to it.

    When we've gotten some music going to it, and you print out and play them music, you'll be better able to understand what I mean by meter, time signatures and how the words to a song fit with them.

    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:03 PM
    Shiang

    Oh hmm like in a dance? How it some times goes by eight counts, then six, and on?

    Just this one, I wanted to add that "of you" but it just doesn't sound... nice.
    "I've always thought [of you] from the time that you vanished."
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:11 PM
    Clough
    Yes, the beats and rhythms used from meters and time signatures are like dance.

    The changes below will work with 3/4 time.

    From the fairytale that brought me to you,
    I've always thought about you from the time you vanished.

    What would you like to title of the song to be, please?

    Thanks!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:21 PM
    Shiang

    Oh okay. I dance so maybe what I learn there could help me understand. :)

    Two yous in once line bothers me somehow.

    Ack it's so hard to think of a title! Perhaps something like "vitality"? Or maybe that one is just to um irrelevant?

    Oh this is so random but, why is it that you have thanks at the end of nearly every post? Is it like a signature?
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:29 PM
    Clough

    What kind of dancing are you learning?

    Two "yous" in a sentence is okay. We can always experiment with finding different ways to word any sentence though.

    I can think of lots of ideas for a title, if you'd like to know what they are, please let me know. However, it is your song and I'm trying to make it from your heart.

    I say thanks at the end of nearly every post to be polite and to have a closure to the post. I know that I overdo it sometimes, but it has become a habit. I also don't do it all of the time, but I do like my posts to be as friendly as possible and not abrupt or insensitive.

    Thanks! LOL!
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:38 PM
    Shiang

    Popping, Jerking, Contemporary[?], and African modern. Many types of dance, though I don't know most of their names.
    Our main teacher has three assistants to help him introduce other styles.

    I'd love to know what they are. :) It's just like, I get a blank when I have to think of it when asked, do you know what I mean?

    Ohh I see. It reminds of me a classmate of mine. She has a habit of saying sorry, though sometimes it doesn't make sense when she does.

    Haha I shall say you're welcome at the end then. XD
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:47 PM
    Clough

    I'm glad that you're taking formal dance training!

    What kind of music training, if any, have you had? Have you had any music classes in school?

    Possible titles:

    I Will Wait for You

    My Promise to You

    To the One I Love

    My Song to You

    Considering the type of dance styles that you're learning, I can see why "The River Flows in You" is probably too slow for your liking.
  • Mar 17, 2009, 11:55 PM
    Shiang

    Music training? Hmm I don't think I've had any classes on music, except in fourth grade. Haha.

    That class is a load of fun with hard work attached to it.
    I prefer more energetic kind of music, unless I'm about to go to sleep.
    "The River Flows in You" is a pretty piece though, it doesn't give a upbeat feel.

    Ohh hmm. I like My Promise to You the most, though I like My Song to You as well.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:03 AM
    Clough
    Then let's use "My Promise to You". I need some sort of title so that I can start the program where I'll write the music.

    I listen to "The River Flows in You" over and over. I also like upbeat kinds of music. Do you have any links to where there are sound files of the kinds of music that you like?

    What kind of music does your friend like, and what sort of music does he play on the violin, please?
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:08 AM
    Shiang

    Alrighty. c:

    Ohh that's cool. Haha I have so much that I like, do you really want the links? XD

    He likes... all music. He just loves it all. I haven't heard him play in a while, but mostly he does more of the classical type on his violin.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:17 AM
    Clough

    What I'm thinking, is because of the nature of the words of your song, that it needs to be kind of slow. Not as slow as "The River Flows in You", though.

    How long has he been studying the violin? I want to write this so that he will be able to play it, so I need to have an idea as to how difficult music could be that he can play.

    It will be in piano format, but he can play just the melody line. Someone else could play the left-hand accompaniment, if they would like to.

    Do you know anyone who plays the piano pretty well?

    Yes, I would like the links to some music that you like so that I can get an idea as to what you really like.

    Thanks!
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:27 AM
    Shiang

    Haha no metal for those words. XD

    He has been playing since he was very little around 6 yrs old?
    Left-hand accompaniment?

    I don't think I know anyone that can play piano well, I could ask band friends if they know.

    I'll list 6 of them.

    Nightingale by Yanni
    YouTube - yanni - Nightingale (live)

    Girls be Ambitions by Miyavi
    YouTube - Miyavi, Girls, be ambitious

    Closer by Inoue Joe
    YouTube - Inoue Joe - Closer

    King Knight by Ali Project
    YouTube - ALI PROJECT KING KNIGHT

    Mirotic by DBSK
    YouTube - [ENG SUB] DBSK - Mirotic (HQ Full Ver.)

    Anima Libera by Emi
    YouTube - EMI - Anima Libera
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:34 AM
    Clough

    Thanks for the links! I will check them out!

    Yes, no metal for those words! LOL!

    Left-hand accompaniment is music that supports the music that's being played by the right-hand on the piano. In the case of your song though, it will be music that will support and go along with a melody that's in the treble clef.

    Since he's been playing since he was around 6 years old and now, I would presume is around your age, then I think that he should be fairly advanced on the violin by now.

    What do you mean by band friends? Are they people who play in a concert band or other types of bands?
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:35 AM
    Clough
    Another thought for the title might include your boyfriends name. Would you like to include his name in the title?
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:45 AM
    Shiang

    I hope they are entertaining for you.

    Yeah haha imagine that! Its like um... you know L80ETC? They sing silly epic songs, but they are rock band.

    Ohh. Pianos look so complicated with all their keys. Lol he is a year older. c:

    By band friends I mean anyone who plays for the school like marching band, orchestra, and a few who have their own concert kind bands afterschool.

    Haha noooo. It'd be like so awkward if it was his name for the title.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:56 AM
    Clough
    Here is the link to a virtual piano. I can show you how to play some things on it sometime. You might even be able to play your song on it! But, that does depend on how your song is developed.

    VIRTUAL KEYBOARD - PIANO

    It does sound like you would be likely to know someone who can play the piano version of your song.

    Do you mind if I put Shiang/Clough for the lyricist and composer of the song?

    Thanks!
  • Mar 18, 2009, 12:58 AM
    Shiang

    Ohh that's so cool! I'm a play with it right now haha.

    You can make it all you. c:
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:00 AM
    Clough

    Thanks! But, the words really are yours. We're just making them so that they will fit the music.

    So, I'm going to make it Shiang/Clough, if that's okay with you?
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:03 AM
    Shiang

    Ohh! I just remembered my sister has a keyboard like that, only it has more keys. It could always be changed right so if I get any ideas or want changes I tell. c:

    Oh could you change Shiang to Tobii? I use Tobii more often. C:
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:06 AM
    Clough

    Yes, I can use whatever name you would like. I just need to put something in to start the program.

    Is Tobii a nickname or your real name, please?

    Thanks!
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:09 AM
    Shiang

    Ah okay. c:

    Ohh Tobii is my nickname, since a lot of english speakers? Have a hard time pronouncing my real name or I get mixed up with words that people say.

    Clough is your nickname?
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:12 AM
    Clough
    Clough is my real last name. My first name is Craig.

    I'll use Tobii, if that is what you would like. Although, last names are what is usually used for these sort of things on the music.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:17 AM
    Shiang

    You have a cool name though. :O

    Yes, please. :D
    My last name would be Duong, but its made up of ugly letters and an unpleasant meaning. D:
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Clough

    Thanks!

    Okay, I'll use what you like then. First melody for your song will be appearing on this thread shortly. It will take me five to ten minutes to write and post it.

    Words can be added right on the music later, but that's something that's harder for me to do. I guarantee that the words will be able to be sung with the music, though.

    Would you like to play a song now that you might know on the virtual keyboard while you're waiting, that is, if you would like to wait?
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:28 AM
    Shiang

    Alrighty.

    I'm sure it is harder to add the words to match the music. :o

    I think I'm done playing with the keyboard tonight. :)
    I'll just read a book while waiting.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:32 AM
    Clough

    It's because of how the program works that it's hard to add the words. I write the music to fit the words. Once you have someone play the melody, I'm sure that you'll be able to see how the words would fit.

    Okay then, an example of your song will appear here in a number of minutes.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 01:35 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shiang View Post
    It could always be changed right so if I get any ideas or want changes I tell. c:

    Yes, any of what we write can be changed.
  • Mar 18, 2009, 02:03 AM
    Shiang

    Dang it's 2am. I've got to get to bed now, since I have an exit exam to take in a few hours.

    Goodnight. c:
  • Mar 18, 2009, 02:06 AM
    Clough
    1 Attachment(s)
    Here are the first four lines of your song set to music. I re-worded it again just slightly.

    From the fairytale that brought me to you,
    I've always thought from the time that you vanished,

    However our story unfolds, throughout stormy days,
    And through muddy roads, that you'll still be my prince.

    Attachment 17749

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