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  • Feb 4, 2007, 12:15 PM
    woovictoria
    NO make-up!
    I'm 13 and my mom won't let me wear make-up, but my dad will. She won't give in. She also won't let me date. I'm sooo mad at her, but I try not to show it. What should I do? PLEASE DON'T ANSWER WITH YOU'RE TO YOUNG ETC. kay thanks! :confused:
  • Feb 4, 2007, 12:32 PM
    curlybenswife
    Why on earth would you want to put that rubbish on your face anyway I bet you have lovely skin too, sweetheart trust me when I say you will look back on this in 10 years and think what a fool I was.
    Have you tried actually talking to your mum with out any attitude or grumpyness I'm sure you can come to a compramise.
    As for dating boys uuuuugggghhhhh boys suck and get you into trouble and cause nothing but arguments with your friends.
    Enjoy your teens learn lots and get yourself good grades there the most important thing to worry about so that you can become something later in life and be happy.
    Good luck.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 12:52 PM
    woovictoria
    Actually when I talk to my mom I don't give her attitude and she doesn't do compramises. I do get myself good grades and boys don't suck. Kay anyone else have advice?
  • Feb 4, 2007, 12:57 PM
    Nosnosna
    Short and to the point: Suck it up. Your mom doesn't have to compromise.

    Edit to add:

    Quote:

    actually when I talk to my mom I don't give her attitude
    You're 13. Everything you say and do has the attitude that goes with that in it. Always. YOU may not notice it, but every single person around you does.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 12:58 PM
    curlybenswife
    You asked for advice you got it no one said you we're going to like what you heard, and if you honestly think boys are the most important thing in life you really do have a lot of growing up to do.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:02 PM
    ATYOURSERVICE
    You could do all the decieving that my friends use to do. They would put make up on on the way to school and take it on the way home. You'll find that even adult women to that.
    I only suggest since she does not do compromises. Because a little lip gloss and some eye liner would be compromise. That way your skin will stay clearer.
    ALso talk to dad, see if he can assist her in compromising. I did it with my daugther. Now 17 I love the way she wears her make up. I even took her to a make up artist, It cost be $200 for the consultation, but she learned about the do's and don'ts. She now wears Bare Essence? I think that is how you spell it. All natural product.

    On the boys issue, sorry... I will agree.. boys are jerks and they want only to get into your pants. The bad thing about it, is that it doesn't change, even as adult males.

    Good luck
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:10 PM
    woovictoria
    I don't think boys are the most important thing I just don't think they suck. I know what the most important thing is. God. I already know that I have a lot of growing up to do too because I'm only 13, but that doesn't mean that I'm totally immature. And I didn't mean to sound like I have an attitude. And its totally not true that you guys say that I do all the time. I'm a christian and I know the difference between right and wrong. I happen to go to a private christian school called calvary chapel and the person I want to date happens to go there to. He also knows the difference between right and wrong. So sorry guys jesus loves you!


    More advice needed!!

    Thanks atyourservice for the help but I definitiely won't deceive my mom its totally wrong!
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:13 PM
    Nosnosna
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ATYOURSERVICE
    ALso talk to dad, see if he can assist her in compromising.

    Be extremely careful taking this route... you really don't want to make it look like you're trying to pit them against each other.

    And please, for the love of god, don't take that to mean that you should ask dad after mom says no.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:13 PM
    paige511
    On the boy subject ask your mom if you can go on double dates or a group date she may feel better about letting you go if your w. more than 1 person and you'll feel way more comfortable if you have people you trust around you.

    w. make-up I didn't start wearing make-up until my freshman year. Maybe see if you can just wear mascara and eyeliner? Maybe even chapstick its not a bright color but your lips will shine.

    If she doesn't go for any of that.. try making deals maybe you'll if you raise a "b" to an "a" or do more chores around the house.--em
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:16 PM
    woovictoria
    My parents are actually divorced and he said that when I'm with him I can wear it. And I made sure it was okay with my mom she said fine its his choice. So I'm not doing anything wrong. I don't get why everyone thinks that teenagers are just the worst.. not all of them are and especially the ones that are saved.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:18 PM
    woovictoria
    I'm a straigt a student and I can wear chapstick, lip gloss, and eye shadow. I want to wear mascara and eyeliner. I've asked about group dates or even just hanging out with him with people and she still said no. thanks for the advice paige
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:19 PM
    paige511
    I'm a teenager too & my parents are divorced.. I still haven't worn make-up around my dad cause I don't know what he will think?? My mom doesn't care she actually told me to start wearing mascara.. we aren't the worst! Haha we are the best.. ask your mom if you and a friend can go to the movies[or somewhere else] and meet a guy there and she can pick you up.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:20 PM
    woovictoria
    Haha go to the movies and then meet a guy instead or what?
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:22 PM
    paige511
    Ohh okay well... hmmm.. I don't know I'm out of advice considering I literally just went through what your going through.. ud think id have something else to say but I don't sorry:( well good luck w. your mom--paige
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:22 PM
    woovictoria
    Popotito sounds like a good idea I'll try
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:29 PM
    paige511
    Well let your mom know he will [or mite] be there. Just don't leave w. him stay where you are. And maybe call mom and let her know your okay and just checking in.. when I'm w. my friends I always call her and she trusts me more now.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:44 PM
    curlybenswife
    Now forgive me but I have to say if you are a christian surely you should be following a certain commandment of honoring your mother??
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:49 PM
    woovictoria
    I am. Like I said I'm not going to go behind her back and putting on make up or going out with boys because it would be wrong. I just need a solution and advice to help me work this out with her.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 01:56 PM
    curlybenswife
    You want to know something, I was never allowed to put make up on, not under my roof were my fathers words "i wont have you looking like a scrubber!" I never wore anything remotely low cut or short I lived in trousers and t shirts. There was no way I was going to defy him he was my father and that was that.
    But you know what I got to 21 and I thanked him because I had the most amazing complexion ever and all my friends were pilling on the spot cover and just looked rough.
    I really do believe you need to just stick to what you already use and remember your mums always right ;)
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:03 PM
    woovictoria
    I'm sorry that you weren't allowed to do those things but times have changed and we are different. If I want to do something I fight for it, I don't always win but I fight for what I want. I'm not saying I should always get what I want though because this is part of life. I don't wear anything short I'm not your typical teenage girl. I'm actually amaziingly different. I speak what I feels right, I do what's right, and I don't give in to stupid things. Of course I mess up but I'm not perfect. And I totally respect my mom but most importantly god and I intend to keep it that way.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:05 PM
    curlybenswife
    LOL I'm not that old you cheeky monkey
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:07 PM
    woovictoria
    Cheeky monkey? Kay. Then how old are you?
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:13 PM
    woovictoria
    29? Times have changed. My moms like 5 years older and things were definitely different when she was a teen. What's with cheeky monkey?
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:27 PM
    TheSavage
    Cheeky monkey is just a way of saying that a young`n [you] brought a grin and hit a bit close to home [thats my take]
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:35 PM
    curlybenswife
    I tell you what you need to chill out little girl lol and the attitude your giving is pretty disgusting coming from such a sweet innocent person as you claim to be go back to the rock you crawled out from under and give it a break with the big I am it really doesn't suit you.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:37 PM
    Allheart
    Hi Woo.

    I'm not 13 or 14, but I once was. Woo, here's the thing. Times may be different. But here is one thing that remains the same and always should and always will. Respect.

    When Mom says “No.”. Woo, Mom says No. Unless she is an unfit mother, then you need to value and respect your Mom's answers. You are not growing in to a fine young lady by “standing up” or fighting for what you feel is right with your Mother. Woo, whether it is 20 years ago, or 20 years from now, no matter how you try and twist the words, the result will always come out the same – Disrespect.

    Additionally, if you do sense that someone is older than you, they would be considered your elder, and you should also show them respect as well, even if you have a difference of opinion. I am sure you understand what I am saying. You do not speak to those who are your elders as you would your peers.

    Now to your question - Sorry, 13 is too young to date. You have plenty of time.
    Mom says no to make up, so you don't wear it when you are with Mom. Dad says it's okay when you are with him, Mom says it's okay that Dad says it's okay when you are with him, so you wear the make up when you are with Dad. There, problem solved.

    Woo, I bet you are a fine young lady and those morals and teachings that your Mother has instilled in you, will pay off someday. Appreciate the fact that your Mom cares enough and loves you enough to tell you No.

    Seems there is a bigger issue here, than you wearing mascara. You are a blessed young lady to have two parents that love you and are there for you. Show them the respect and love in return. Make them proud and show them, that all their hard work and efforts are worth it.

    Woo, always keep in mind, it is good to communicate what you are feeling. If something is bothering you that much, than, yes, ask your Mom to sit with you and talk with you about whatever is on your mind. But you just keep in mind that your Mom is wiser than you, and even if it is hard for you to understand, you have to then trust her, that she will always guide you to do what is right.

    Woo, if my Mother told me No. Then No it was. I may not have liked it, but somewhere within me, even though I didn't understand, I just knew that Mom was right. The most important lesson here Woo, is respect. No makeup in the world can make disrespect beautiful.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 02:39 PM
    woovictoria
    Kay yeah but uh remember jesus loves you!

    Woo hahha that's hilarious! I know you're just trying to help thanks! But I'm only with my dad liike 4 days out of the whole month. Seriously its been like this since I was 7.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:00 PM
    curlybenswife
    I think that response just summed you up wonderfully, you got nothing but nice honest advice from Allheart and all you have done is be disrespectful. I am no longer going to look at this thread you do not deserve help of any kind.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:04 PM
    Allheart
    Woo -

    Then 4 days out of the month - you get to wear makeup. Woo- My parents were divorced too, since I was 4, so I hear you. And If Mom told me "NO", then it was NO. If I questioned it, well, I would be in the next town without the train. Not saying that is right.
    There are reasons Mom said no, and I am sure she explained them to you. You are just going to have to suck this one up girl.

    Mom is doing the best she can by herself (with the exception of 4 days a month), help her out a little and try and not go against her wishes or question or good judgement.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:25 PM
    woovictoria
    Kay yeah I guess it makes sense.. there is one problem. Whenever I talk to my mom she always is in a bad mood so whatever I say even if I ask her how her day is going then she flips so point being.. she's never going to let me do what I want. I'm never mean to her but it feels like all she does is walk all over me kay? So I don't have the best life but I know that someone's always there mmkay and that's jesus. Okay I'm not trying to be alll mean but whatever.. im praying for both of you just always remember that jesus loves you and whatever you've been through he was always there for you even if you didn't know it!
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:33 PM
    Allheart
    Woo -

    I understand more than you think I do (meaning about the Mom thing). Mom could be under a whole lot of stress and I am sure you don't mean to come at her in any negative way. Just be mindful that Mom does have it rough and her nerves may be on edge. For a couple of days, try a different approach. Try and forget the things that you really want and see if there is a way that you can make things a little easier for her.

    I know this is a tough way to grow up - but Woo you will be stronger and wiser for it as long as you treat it as lessons in life. It is nothing to be ashamed about, actually it is something to be proud about that you are able to remain a young lady, get good grades, depsite the difficulties.

    CurlybensWife is one of if not the nicest ladies on here, you may want to thank her for her time. What do you think?
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:35 PM
    Lord_Darkclaw
    LOL! Oh well, you'll have plenty of time for make up when you're a little older.
    I know it seems like a big deal; you're a teenager now after all, and I guess a lot of your friends are wearing make-up, but 13 is a little young for make-up. If your mom still says no when you're 16, then she is being unreasonable!

    Being a teenager is tough, but at 13 years of age, you're still a baby and your mom is trying to protect you.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:41 PM
    woovictoria
    Allheart you mean good but uh if you think she's the nicest one on here then you might want to check it out again. Okay I think I should leave because this isn't helping that much hey this is coming from a "baby" so don't gett offended.
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:44 PM
    ignatz2000
    Ok seriously makeup costs a lot and makes you look ugly and it's a load of disgusting goo!:mad: About dating: Sorry to say this but you'r thirteen and you'r just too young. Try asking your date over to have dinner with your family. It's much safer and your parents might like him.;)
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:46 PM
    addy
    Listen wootori, I respect that you respect your mom by not going behind her back.A year ago when I was 13 I fought the same battle with getting my earlobe pierced for the 3 time up high on the earlobe and al, so it sounds like the only thing you can do is sit and wait.But in the meantime you could probably convince her to anything buut eyeliner.Eyeliner was the only one beauty product she wouldn't let me wear until the 7th grade.Just prove to her you can take care of yourself in public(hince the reason to date) and then in the mean time if she is being totally old fashioned you might try thing s that are similar to make up(sub for lip gloss,Vaseline) but really you'll probably have to wait it out.How about reseaching information like, stats and health info? That is what I did for my ears because sum 1 told my mom that getting them pierced up there causes cancer.I proved her wrong with grace.

    Hope I helped(feelin sry 4 you doll)
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:47 PM
    woovictoria
    Comment on ignatz2000's post
    Pretty good. Better then the rest of these people
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:48 PM
    woovictoria
    Comment on addy's post
    This is what I call advice better then the rest of these people
  • Feb 4, 2007, 03:52 PM
    woovictoria
    That was like the best one! I lllove that answer because you're younger like me so you understand more because you had a similar problem! Thanks a lot and I think I should be going now since these people are about to hurt me hahaa
  • Feb 5, 2007, 01:07 PM
    laylow80
    I agree with everyone. You have a lot to learn still, and when you get hurt by a boy, don't say you didn't get good advice from people older than you, who have been through it all before. Trust me, it's more than just make-up your parents are worried about. You just have to wait until they think you can wear it, in the time to spare, think about it like this:
    If you put a bunch of makeup on your face, it could lead to bad acne, which you definitely don't want! So be thankful your skin is smooth right now. Try to convince your parents into letting you wear some eyeliner and even some eyeshadow. Ask your mom when she started wearing make-up, her answer will most-likely be 14-15. Good Luck :-) Don't rush into things, when I look back at pictures of myself, I wore too much makeup, and I should've taken my parents' advice. You're lucky your parents care about you the way they do. Don't push it.

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