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  • Dec 13, 2008, 04:05 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Losing my faith
    All my life, I've questioned things, never thought id question god though, I just don't believe, I kind of don't want to believe, but its depressing, hearing about hell, because I know I'm going to die young, what can I do, to get back mt faith
  • Dec 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
    jjwoodhull
    It's normal and natural to question your faith. Do you have any friends that go to your church? Try talking to them. Or contact your church's youth minister.

    Are you depressed in general? Why do you say you think you will die young?
  • Dec 13, 2008, 04:43 PM
    KBC

    How much activity outside the house(and computer) do you do?

    The more one does outside the more life has its little surprises and it becomes interesting.

    I want to add a post for you to look at,it's about the children who grew up before the '80's

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...0s-230592.html

    Thought provoking isn't it?
  • Dec 13, 2008, 05:03 PM
    TexasParent

    Well if you looked around you and counted your blessings I think your faith would be restored, but it takes work.

    Just like the negative thoughts that have creeped into your life and have started to snowball, the same can be true of positive thoughts; but it's a choice.

    Your negative thoughts are lies. You could as easily turn any one of them into a positive. I know the negative thoughts seem like the truth, and the positive ones seem like the lies; but if you understand that the negative ones are truly bull, then would it make sense to replace them with positive thoughts even if they were bull in your mind too? Think of the difference it would make.

    Positive thinking needs to become a habit, so that you have positive thoughts squirreling around your brain instead of negative ones.

    So make a gratitude list (and I mean write it down) of 5 things you are grateful for; and you don't even have to truly believe them, just do it. Do this everyday for 3 weeks, and if it doesn't improve your outlook and restore some of your faith I will refund your misery.

    In addition, any time a negative thought comes into your mind, simply say no, I refuse to believe this and find something positive to say about yourself, or the situation even if it doesn't feel right for the time being.

    Positive equals love; God, faith, hope, etc. do not exist in our perception without love. God disappears from our sight when we choose to stay in the negative and hopelessness.

    God gave you the right to choose, and he's not going to do all the work, he wants you to seek Him. With the practical examples I've given above, I am sure you will be on the road to restoring your faith in no time.

    If you are a praying person, add prayer to the mix. Don't know which prayer, just recite the Lord's Prayer daily or more if it helps; that will do for a start I am sure it will bring a positive result.

    Good luck and God Bless.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 11:38 AM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    It's normal and natural to question your faith. Do you have any friends that go to your church? Try talking to them. Or contact your church's youth minister.

    Are you depressed in general? Why do you say you think you will die young?

    No in general I am not depressed, but I do have a form of clinical depression, but it doesn't really bother me none
    I sday I will die young because I used to smoke, a lot, and it also has to do with my plans for the future
  • Dec 14, 2008, 11:55 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    it also has to do with my plans for the future

    And what are your plans for the future?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 11:57 AM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And what are your plans for the future?

    College, then criminal justice, 5 years of swat, then blackwater
  • Dec 14, 2008, 12:13 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    college, then criminal justice, 5 years of swat, then blackwater

    To be accepted by Blackwater, you will have to work hard in school and brush up on your spelling, English grammar, etc. Blackwater doesn't accept just anyone who walks in the door.

    And by the way, Blackwater would be the SAFEST group to be in because you'd be well trained for any situation and would have the support of the entire group.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 12:16 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    To be accepted by Blackwater, you will have to work hard in school and brush up on your spelling, English grammar, etc. Blackwater doesn't accept just anyone who walks in the door.

    And btw, Blackwater would be the SAFEST group to be in because you'd be well trained for any situation and would have the support of the entire group.

    I know all that, but I still have a feeling, inside, that I'm going to die young, my life seems like that pink floyd song, time
  • Dec 14, 2008, 12:25 PM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    I know all that, but i still have a feeling, inside, that im gonna die young, my life seems like that pink floyd song, time

    How long are you going to let this depression and self pity keep you down?

    How much is too much?

    You don't seem to be thinking anything positive,when do you want that thinking to end?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 12:51 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    I know all that, but i still have a feeling, inside, that im gonna die young, my life seems like that pink floyd song, time

    I'm guessing you are about 14-15 years old. Right?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 12:52 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I'm guessing you are about 14-15 years old. Right?

    15, 16 in may
  • Dec 14, 2008, 01:13 PM
    Wondergirl

    You mentioned a clinical depression. Are you taking meds for it, and/or are you seeing a counselor who helps you set weekly goals and achieve them?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:00 PM
    godsbabygirl267

    A few years back, I started doubting my faith in God. I even wondered for a while why I was still alive. Then it hit, I am alive because God has deemed that I have a purpose for being alive. That is all. I tried to figure out what my purpose was, and I failed. I learned that it was to help people. That I believe is my calling in life. I did not uncover this idea by reading the bible or attending church. I meerly talked to some of my friends and tried to look deep within myself to figure out who God wants me to be. Now, I still don't go to Church regularly, but I am part of a bible study group at my school, and it helps me a lot, especially when it seems that all the chips are stacked against me. Find what you love to do, and see how God influenced that. That, my friend, is a good place to start.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:08 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by godsbabygirl267 View Post
    A few years back, I started doubting my faith in God. I even wondered for a while why I was still alive. Then it hit, I am alive because God has deemed that I have a purpose for being alive. That is all. I tried to figure out what my purpose was, and I failed. I learned taht it was to help people. That i believe is my calling in life. I did not uncover this idea by reading the bible or attending church. I meerly talked to some of my friends and tried to look deep within myself to figure out who God wants me to be. Now, I still don't go to Church regularly, but I am part of a bible study group at my school, and it helps me alot, especially when it seems that all the chips are stacked against me. Find what you love to do, and see how God influenced that. That, my friend, is a good place to start.

    I just don't believe that god has a plan for every one, I have a very hard time belivin that
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:08 PM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    How long are you going to let this depression and self pity keep you down?

    How much is too much?

    You don't seem to be thinking anything positive,when do you want that thinking to end?

    Thank you for replying to this post,I seem to think you don't want to feel better at all,but are just wallowing in self pity.

    I hope someday you see this activity isn't going anywhere and get the help you need.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:11 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Thank you for replying to this post,I seem to think you don't want to feel better at all,but are just wallowing in self pity.

    I hope someday you see this activity isn't going anywhere and get the help you need.

    Wallowing in self pitty? I isn't no nancy boy who stays home in his bed and cries, I play guitar, I kayak, I hunt, I play paintball, I listen to ac dc
    I just have a hard time belivin in god, and that worries me
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:19 PM
    jjwoodhull
    This might sound corny to you - but last night I watched the movie "It's A Wonderful Life". It's a good reminder that we are all here for a reason and that the lives of our friends and family would be unrecognizable without our influence.

    Of course it's hard to know our "purpose" or why we are here. But we are here for a reason. You have so much still ahead of you... Life brings great things to us when we least expect it. Who knows what can happen for you in the future... Maybe you'll be a father one day, find a job you love and are good at, fall in love and get married, write a great song, see the world... And God's hand is in all of that.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:20 PM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    All my life, ive questioned things, never thought id question god though, i just dont belive, i kind of dont want to belive, but its depressing, hearing about hell, because i know im gonna die young, what can i do, to get back mt faith

    Your words:,because I know I'm going to die young,

    This is self defeating thinking.The more you believe this,the more you shape your life around achieving this goal.

    Why try to do ANYTHING at all,heck,your going to die young,right?

    What does trying to find faith have to do with this?

    Have you looked at the other posts you have made in here?Self pity and contempt are all throughout those.

    While I see the activity being a great step forward in finding a solution to this,you seem to enjoy this pity party,it has become your shield against being responsible for any effort to try.

    Make sense?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:29 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Your words:,cuz i know im gonna die young,

    This is self defeating thinking.The more you believe this,the more you shape your life around achieving this goal.

    Why try to do ANYTHING at all,heck,your going to die young,right?

    What does trying to find faith have to do with this?

    Have you looked at the other posts you have made in here?Self pity and contempt are all throughout those.

    While I see the activity being a great step forward in finding a solution to this,you seem to enjoy this pity party,it has become your shield against being responsible for any effort to try.

    make sense?

    I do kind of take myself pity, and push it so it doesn't seem to be there until it festers, and yes I do use it as a shield, a shield to keep people who try to read me from figuring me out, but your yourn try ing to make it seem like I don't try to find faith, hell, I've read the bible, I've been to church, I prayed, I did all this to get my faith back, but nothing worked
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:36 PM
    KBC

    Faith in whatever you are searching for,whatever higher power,requires WORK!

    What good is faith in something else if you don't believe in yourself?

    Faith has to start from the inside to be able to grow.

    Living behind a self defeating attitude makes that kind of hard.

    So again I ask,when does this stop?How long is long enough for you to get the picture and make the change?

    You can wallow in the pit forever and you faith will never take it away,self perception is stopping you from seeing and seeking your faith with nothing more than self hate and contempt.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:40 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Faith in whatever you are searching for,whatever higher power,requires WORK!

    What good is faith in something else if you don't believe in yourself?

    Faith has to start from the inside to be able to grow.

    Living behind a self defeating attitude makes that kind of hard.

    So again I ask,when does this stop?How long is long enough for you to get the picture and make the change?

    You can wallow in the pit forever and you faith will never take it away,self perception is stopping you from seeing and seeking your faith with nothing more than self hate and contempt.

    Your assuming that I hate myself, I don't nessesarily HATE myself, I hate the fact that I can't believe in god, I hate the fact that I get in fights at school, I hate the fact that I never told my ex I loved her, but its not 100 percent self pity
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:45 PM
    KBC

    So,what is stopping you from achieving your goals?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:51 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    So,what is stopping you from achieving your goals?

    Im a softmore in high school, I can't achieve my goals yet
  • Dec 14, 2008, 05:57 PM
    KBC

    Another excuse.

    Goals aren't just for adults.

    How about achieving a goal of finding your faith?

    How about achieving a goal of getting better grades this semester?OR not getting mad at yourself,or others for a week.

    OR setting a goal to think in a better way,any way at all, for a day?Or an hour?

    A goal for getting rid of negativity in your life so the future will be there,and you can be a part of it?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:01 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Another excuse.

    Goals aren't just for adults.

    How about achieving a goal of finding your faith?

    How about achieving a goal of getting better grades this semester?OR not getting mad at yourself,or others for a week.

    OR setting a goal to think in a better way,any way at all, for a day?Or an hour?

    A goal for getting rid of negativity in your life so the future will be there,and you can be a part of it?

    Can I ask you something?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:06 PM
    jjwoodhull
    I asked you earlier if you had spoken with your pastor or youth minister. Have you?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:07 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    I asked you earlier if you had spoken with your pastor or youth minister. Have you?

    I don't like religious officials
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:15 PM
    jjwoodhull
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    I dont like religious officials

    Did you have a bad experience with one? Or is just in general?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:21 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    Did you have a bad experience with one? Or is just in general?

    Both, kind of, I just don't like how they tell you what to do, tell what media is wrong, like god cares wheather or not I listen to rock and roll
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:28 PM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    Can i ask you something?

    Yes,that's why I am here.:)
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:31 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Yes,that's why I am here.:)

    Why is that I couldn't tell my ex that I loved her, I really did, I like to compare tgings to music, this how she made me feel
    YouTube - Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine: Version 2 Black And White
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:36 PM
    jjwoodhull
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    Both, kinda, i just dont like how they tell you what to do, tell what media is wrong, like god cares wheather or not i listen to rock and roll

    I agree with you totally about the music thing - that's a very strict stance. Maybe you need to find a new church. Try visiting one with a friend. Or ask your parents to go with you. Often we are raised going to a particular church and it is not at all the right church for us. This is a natural age for you question this.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:37 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    I agree with you totally about the music thing - that's a very strict stance. Maybe you need to find a new church. Try visiting one with a friend. Or ask your parents to go with you. Often we are raised going to a particular church and it is not at all the right church for us. This is a natural age for you question this.

    I can't stand going to church
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:37 PM
    KBC

    Music always soothes the savage beast.

    If the music makes you remember feelings,try to have those memories of good things,not bad or negative ones.

    I know,I have the same affinity to the music and strong memories,for 10 years music was a very big part of my identity,it explained who and what I was about.

    After those 10 years the music brought heartache and pain.I stopped listening to the music I loved and began to listen to general BS music,that which I had no memories with.

    As to the other idea,you asked,how can you tell her your feelings when they were buried?

    Were you still aggravated or reactive to things?combative towards others?
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:39 PM
    jjwoodhull
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    Why is that i couldnt tell my ex that i loved her, i really did, i like to compare tgings to music, this how she made me feel
    YouTube - Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine: Version 2 Black And White

    Is your ex girlfriend the route of your depression? Maybe you were too shy to tell her or you were afraid of rejection. We all have regrets in life. The best thing you can do is learn a lesson and move forward. In the future, don't hesitate to open your heart to someone.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:43 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Music always soothes the savage beast.

    If the music makes you remember feelings,try to have those memories of good things,not bad or negative ones.

    I know,I have the same affinity to the music and strong memories,for 10 years music was a very big part of my identity,it explained who and what I was about.

    After those 10 years the music brought heartache and pain.I stopped listening to the music I loved and began to listen to general BS music,that which I had no memories with.

    As to the other idea,you asked,how can you tell her your feelings when they were buried?

    Were you still aggravated or reactive to things?combative towards others?

    I was aggrivated, she was still talking to her ex, and after she dumped me she went right on back to him, and then I was combative, I kicked his @$$
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:45 PM
    KBC

    So you were still reactive and explosive towards the world,and the betrayal of her just added fuel to the fire.
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:46 PM
    AManWithNoName
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    So you were still reactive and explosive towards the world,and the betrayal of her just added fuel to the fire.

    Yeah
  • Dec 14, 2008, 06:52 PM
    KBC

    Have you tried to forgive her?

    Have you ever tried to forgive yourself?

    This IS possible,both counts,the same way even,BUT! It requires a few things from you,effort is just the start of it.

    In order to forgive someone else,we must first forgive ourselves.

    Are you ready to try?

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