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  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:07 AM
    p_rich91
    Drinking with stepdad
    I am 16 and my mom is going out of town this weekend. My stepdad told me that if I wanted, he would get beer and I could see what it is like to drink alcohol. He says it's better to experiment in a safe environment instead of at a party or something where someone could take advantage of me when I'm drunk. He also says if I drink some I will build up a tolerance and won't get drunk as easily. I kind of want to try it. What do you think?:confused:
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:09 AM
    J_9
    I think it is against the law and if it is found out he could be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

    Have you asked your Mom how she feels about this? She probably wouldn't be too happy.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:14 AM
    Canada_Sweety
    Please don't do it. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but history has shown us many times, that IF you are going to be experimenting with alcohol in a controlled environment, you should do it with a parent or blood relative (whom you trust).
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:16 AM
    J_9
    Canada, the legal drinking age in the US is 21. It would be illegal for ANY adult to supply her with alcohol before that age.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:17 AM
    GlindaofOz
    It seems fishy to me that its going to be just the two of you drinking. Not to say anything bad, but it doesn't sit right with me.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:19 AM
    Canada_Sweety
    Well I know that, but I mean on a non-legal scale here. of course it's illegal but I meant if she was to try with permission of her mother or parent or something. (drinking age in Canada is 18 so eitehr way I meant of personal choice and not on a legal note)
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:20 AM
    shortiesport23
    Don't do it! He could spike your drink or something. Ask your mom about it. It's sounds like your stepdad is trying to do this behind your mom's back and that can be bad for a relationship.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:21 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by p_rich91
    he also says if i drink some i will build up a tolerance and won't get drunk as easily.

    That's what happens when you become an alcoholic.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:27 AM
    Canada_Sweety
    True!!! J_9 is right!!!! Don't try developing a tolerance! It's how I started my downwards spiral into alcoholism... I hate saying it but if it'll help you then I'll tell. Trying to develope tolerance for alcohol is pretty much saying I want to have to drink 20 40's of vodka to get wasted. Please don't try it, because quitting drinking is harder then drink those 20 bottles.:(
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:31 AM
    Lowtax4eva
    To interject, in another post you said your parents are separated and your dad lives with an 18 year old girl. So why would it matter that your mom is out of town?

    Edit: Oh Stepdad, never mind, I read the post wrong.

    Well going back to what others said, it doesn't seem normal that your stepdad you've only known for a little while is interested in drinking with you, I'd say no and inform your mother.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:32 AM
    p_rich91
    My mom would never want me to do it of course but I've wanted to try. My friends drink all the time and they are fine. I think my stepdad just wants to try to do something cool. He said he thinks I'm really responsible and good kid and that one of the reasons he married my mom was that he was so impressed with me. I don't think it's anything bad. He said we'd just hang out and watch movies or something and I could drink if I wanted to.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:33 AM
    Canada_Sweety
    Maybe you could have a few friends over for safety.. not like a party, but just as a safety precaution.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:33 AM
    p_rich91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lowtax4eva
    To interject, in another post you said your parents are seperated and your dad lives with an 18 year old girl. So why would it matter that your mom is out of town?


    My mom wouldn't let me drink if she were here. And my dad is too busy with his girlfriend to care anyway... but he wouldn't let me drink either.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:34 AM
    J_9
    Sounds even more scary to me now. I wouldn't do it, but you probably will anyway. You really should discuss this with your mother.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:36 AM
    GlindaofOz
    The fact that he is hiding it from your mom raises a big giant red flag to me.

    You are a very cute young girl and the fact that he has said how grown up, mature and impressed with you he is... it sounds bad.

    You are going o do what you are going to do anyway but I'd hate for him to get you drunk and take advantage of you.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:38 AM
    alkalineangel
    I agree.. it sounds wrong. I mean I dotn know your step dad or anything. But this is screaming pedophile to me
  • Aug 2, 2007, 10:47 AM
    Canada_Sweety
    If it's a secret for your mom then it'sunderstandable for red flags to be going up. In face there is one right here


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    Sure, you're saying your mom wouldn't alow it, but doesn't that show you that you should wait until your mother sees fit for you to drink.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 01:11 PM
    phillysteakandcheese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alkalineangel
    I agree..it sounds wrong. I mean I dotn know your step dad or anything. but this is screaming pedophile to me

    This is exactly the thought that went through my mind as well...

    He already knows you're Mom wouldn't approve... he's keeping it a secret, and he said part of the reason he's with your Mom is because of his "impression" with you...

    It sounds like he's been waiting for this opportunity.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 01:29 PM
    GlindaofOz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by phillysteakandcheese
    This is exactly the thought that went through my mind as well...

    He already knows you're Mom wouldn't approve... he's keeping it a secret, and he said part of the reason he's with your Mom is because of his "impression" with you...

    It sounds like he's been waiting for this opportunity.


    Yeah I think you would have a better weekend spending it with your Dad and his girlfriend...
  • Aug 2, 2007, 01:34 PM
    SpawnOfAzazel
    This is so wrong on so many levels.
    I would let your mom know about this and go stay at a friend's house for the weekend, but that's just my opinion.
    I've got a bad feeling about this.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 01:37 PM
    J_9
    I have a very bad feeling about this too. But I bet she is going to stay home with step-dad anyway.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 02:04 PM
    p_rich91
    OK maybe I won't do it. Are you guys serious though? I was asking whether you thought it was OK to drink a little before I am 21 (how many of you didn't drink at least a little before you were 21?) but the whole thing about you think he wants to do it to get me drunk and stuff is crazy. He's my stepdad... he's like almost 50!
  • Aug 2, 2007, 02:06 PM
    J_9
    Hun, it may be innocent enough, but most of us are mothers and/or fathers with children, we see many many red flags here. I would avoid it if at all possible.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 02:11 PM
    GlindaofOz
    Just because you don't see him sexually doesn't mean he doesn't see you that way.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 02:12 PM
    SpawnOfAzazel
    It doesn't matter how old he is.
    You are 16, if he gives you alcohol he is contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
    He is hiding this from your mom, knowing she won't approve, and that is what causes concern. Not only that, he chose a time when she'll be out of town.
    No one here is saying he is an outright pedophile, and even if he didn't envision you in such a way, he's still overstepping his bounds as both a husband and a stepfather.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 02:15 PM
    p_rich91
    OK OK I won't do it. Thanks for the advice.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 07:09 PM
    nicespringgirl
    U should tell your mum what EXACTLY your stepdad said
    Then try to stay away from him on the weekend when you will be alone with him.
    Drinking under age is wrong, once you taste it u'd like to have more-might cause addiction.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 07:13 PM
    alkalineangel
    I'm a mother and would not even be worried about the few drinks, I agree, tell your mom everything.
  • Aug 2, 2007, 09:18 PM
    Dennis777
    Hello.

    I was a very open father as my kids grew up but I never let them drink in the house, that doesn't mean they didn't try at other people homes BUT at least they knew I felt it was wrong for them to drink.

    A parent saying its OK to have one drink today is opening the door for a six pack next week. Kids always try to make things OK in their minds and if Dad says its OK to drink then it must be.

    As for your Step Dad having other reasons for wanting to let you drink... Don't ever think that a Man of 50 or 60 isn't going to have sexual feelings. In fact 50 is the age area where sexual excitement is going or gone from a long time relationships and Many Men are looking for new and exciting ways to get their youth back. Even if he would never do anything to hurt you if your both drinking its an opening he might not normally take.

    It would be best if you thanked him for being so nice but you will pass. If he trying to talk you into it or offers again tell your mom about it so she knows. There could be problems you don't know about and she should know. If he is just being a nice Guy then she will see that and no problem.

    Good Luck
    Dennis777
  • Aug 3, 2007, 03:49 AM
    wizzkid89
    Okay, I'm going to get lambasted for saying this but it won't be the first time...

    I think you should seriously consider drinking. Maybe convince your step dad to have a few friends over to "share" the experience. Honestly, the man makes a good point about trying it out in a safe environment. And if they don't do it there, they will... they ALWAYS DO, get it some place else.

    BTW how in the hell did we get to accusing her step-dad of being a pedophile right of the bat!! I too see how it looks, and after some of the later posts p-rich put up, I would suggest either drinking with friends or not at all. However, there was a great deal of you who screamed pedophile right after the first post, when, in my opinion, there was absolutely no ground to stand on. I think some of you might have jumped the gun...

    In either case, if you do drink, and I couldn't care if I am your lone supporter, only do it if you can have a few friends over there, just as a precautionary measure.

    But let's face it, drinking at her age happens, and since I'm only two years older than her, and we both live out in cali, I kid you not drugs and alcohol is every where. And no it's not like that every where else, because I have partied in about every state west of the Mississippi, and a few east of it, and Cali is just different. You will see this stuff on a constant regular basis, and she would be better off starting slowly at home with friends and what I'm hoping is a non-pedophile concerned parent. Instead of a drug infested/random people/strange place party.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 09:46 AM
    p_rich91
    I decided not to do it and told my stepdad I wasn't really interested and he got all upset. He said if I didn't want to it meant I was too immature and not ready to be an adult. I said I just didn't really feel like doing it this time but I might do it in the future and he just walked away and wouldn't talk to me anymore. Then on Sunday he told me that I have never made him feel welcome in our family and that if I wasn't going to at least try to be friends with him and hang out and make him feel like part of the family then he was going to leave my mom. On one hand I don't really care if he leaves because I don't really like him that much. But I know it will kill my mom to be left again so soon after my dad left her (and is now dating someone much younger). I don't know what to do.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 09:52 AM
    alkalineangel
    You need to confront your mom and tell her what he is doing. The man is trying to blackmail you into something. What exactly, I don't know... but I do know that it isn't normal behavioor for a grown man who just wants to get to know you better. His anger is not a good response, not typical, nothing but a red flag. This leads me to believe even further that he had other motives. He is trying to guilt you into spending time with him, and it worries me. You need to tell your mom... if she won't listen, tell the person you are closest to, tell a teacher, tell anyone who will listen. His behaviour is not normal, and as a woman and a mother, it really concerns me. Please do not let yourself be alone with him, esp if alcohol is involved.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 09:53 AM
    phillysteakandcheese
    His behavior is totally manipulative - and an even stronger sign that he has less than honorable intentions for you and your Mom.

    You need to tell your Mom everything he's said and done- his asking you to drink, his reaction to your saying no, his threats of leaving your Mom... everything.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 09:54 AM
    J_9
    I have to agree with Al completely on this one. If there were no ulterior motives then he would not have gotten so upset. He is using anger to control and manipulate you into getting what he wants.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 10:01 AM
    p_rich91
    I don't know how to talk to her about this. It's not like with my dad and his girlfriend where they just started dating. My mom has been married to my stepdad for 4 months. She can't get another divorce 4 months after getting married again.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 10:07 AM
    J_9
    Honey, she needs to know what this man is trying to do to her daughter.

    You need to talk to her about your concerns about the drinking when she is out of town, that will start the whole conversation off.

    Tell her that he offered to let you drink, that you felt uncomfortable with that and ask how she would feel if you did drink with him when she is out of town.

    If he really wants you to drink at home, there should be no reason why you can't when she IS home.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 10:08 AM
    alkalineangel
    Yes she can... if she cares for you and herself, she can. You need to tell her. The man is trying to use you, and by his threats, obviously is not that caring for your mother, and she deserves to know.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 10:13 AM
    nicespringgirl
    Whoa,, oh wait, hold on.
    Does any of you think that her stepdad's action is an intention to make a fight between his current wife and himself.Maybe he wants to start making problems then leading to a divorce. DOn't underestimate his "wisdom".
    Be careful, does he still love your mum, hun?
    I think you need to tell your mum, but make sure she cools down, not jump around then he will give her an excuse of ending a relationship.
    He might be just that bad!!
  • Aug 6, 2007, 10:14 AM
    GlindaofOz
    Everyone is totally right. His behavior has just proven to me (and I think AlkalineAngel, J-9, phillysteakandcheese) that his intentions were not to give you a safe environment to experiment with alcohol but rather an opportunity for himself where you were drunk and he could take advantage.

    I would tell you mom what he said and what he was offering to do. Tell her I was conflicted about what was right and wrong and you came on here and asked us what to do. Tell her what he said after you said no. If it helps print out everything we have all said. I know if would want to know if the man I married was lusting after my 16 year old daughter. What happens to their marriage isn't your problem, your problem is that your stepfather has some pretty indecent designs on you and you need to alert an adult to the situation.

    He is really trying to blackmail you into agreeing to this and no adult should ever push a child into drinking or doing something that makes them uncomfortable.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 10:20 AM
    J_9
    Sweetie, look at your picture, look how pretty you are. It is not surprising that he may be attracted to you.

    I love Glinda's advice about printing this conversation out and showing it to your mom, it may be easier for you this way.

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