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  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:18 PM
    tolerance
    Romefalls, keep your future daughter away from the computer and monitor that because that's where all the weirdo are.

    To kissme, so what I was off but the fact remains he's still older than you by 10 years. Which is fine because you're an adult. Also, after reading your post I'm unsure if you made the rig decision by moving miles away to live with someone you just met after 5 months of knowing them online, but it's your life and we all live our own life and make our own decisions. Hope it all works out.
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:20 PM
    N0help4u
    Well if he wants to post here he needs to give sound advice. Telling people they can have sex no limits just wear condoms so you don't get pregnant or STD's just doesn't cut it when the OP ends up pregnant and in legal trouble.
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:20 PM
    Romefalls19
    Tolerance, ha ha.. I'm an IT Manager... Monitoring the computer is what I get paid for.. No worries on that front :-) Thanks though
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:22 PM
    tolerance
    My boyfriend is an IT and I'm a ex cop, so our daughter have a lot to worry about.
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:23 PM
    KissMe10der
    I met him a few times before coming here. If I didn't think things would beable to work. Heck no I wouldn't have come. When your talking to someone till 4am every night and have to go to work in two hours. I think its worth a try.

    Im young enough if this doesn't work out that I can start over. Im not afraid.

    Yes it is my life. But understand, I have experienced some of the worst things in life. I can read men better then ever with being raped, assaulted, threatened, stolen from, cheated on, slapped, mentally abused... etc.

    I know what's right for me, and currently this is right for me. But thanks, I hope it works out too.
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:25 PM
    Romefalls19
    Kissme, I really hope it does work out for you, and I'm glad to read that if it doesn't you know it's not the end of the world

    Tolerance, you have it ALL under control! That is a great set up, you daughters first date shall be entertaining *grabs popcorn* I'm on my way
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:26 PM
    Romefalls19
    Rabbit, thank you for clarifying that considering she is still underage and illegal:-)
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:36 PM
    N0help4u
    Yes they just did that within the past year or so.
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:36 PM
    tolerance
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Romefalls19
    Tolerance, you have it ALL under control! That is a great set up, you daughters first date shall be entertaining *grabs popcorn* I'm on my way

    It weird because my boyfriend always have thought about ways to make the guy disappear and some scare tactics. I think supervised is best but he thinks his way is best. I don't even want her to date anymore. Our daughter will soon be 8 but he wants her to dress almost like a boy. I have to fight with him to let her wear a shirt. Also, he already have a dress code for her too.
  • Jul 31, 2008, 12:39 PM
    Romefalls19
    That's funny, about the dress code. My girlfriend and I, discussed that as well... I had to compromise(I wanted parkas) but reasonable clothes are okay, but none of that hoochie crap!
  • Aug 6, 2008, 08:39 PM
    HUNNiE
    Well I'm 17 soon to 18 as well and
    My I'm dating a 20 yr old and
    I think if you girls like each other
    Well follow your heart..

    In love now and engagged it was worth it..
    :D
  • Aug 6, 2008, 09:06 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HUNNiE
    well im 17 soon to 18 as well and
    my im dating a 20 yr old and
    i think if you girls like eachother
    well follow your heart..

    in love now and engagged it was worth it..
    :D

    If you want to do something illegal that's up to you, but please do not advise others to do so, that's bad advice.

    Sometimes following your heart leads you straight to jail, it's not always worth it.
  • Aug 6, 2008, 09:14 PM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HUNNiE
    well im 17 soon to 18 as well and
    my im dating a 20 yr old and
    i think if you girls like eachother
    well follow your heart..

    in love now and engagged it was worth it..
    :D

    The difference between the ages is what the point is here! Have you bothered to read through all of the posts? There is a HUGE difference between a girl who has just turned 14, and a girl who is 17... huge! 18 and 20 is A lot different! Please don't give half-hearted advice, because you are in love, and think this is the best thing for everyone... no matter what age it is. Please think about the whole situation, and the consequences, and repercussions before answering in a flippant way. It is nice that you are "en-gagged", (:quote) and I am glad that you are happy.

    I wish you well, Hunnie!
  • Aug 8, 2008, 10:12 AM
    HUNNiE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drummergirl6
    wel im a girl ive just turned 17 im gay an ive come out to my family an friends an i met this girl wel we kinda beeen flirting a little bit but she is 14 an i dunno if it is wrong to date a girl this young as of the maturity levels between us, i just wanted ur views thank you

    Yea I'm gay to so I know were coming from
    What's happening with you has already happened
    To me lol so if you would like I could tell you exacally
    How similar this is to my storey...
  • Aug 8, 2008, 10:20 AM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HUNNiE
    Yea im gay to so i know were coming from
    whats happening with you has already happened
    to me lol so if you would like i could tell you exacally
    how similar this is to my storey...

    This has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation! This has to do with the age and maturity level! WHY, when the OP has already given her feedback, as to what she is going to do, are you still trying to encourage her to have a relationship with this underage child? :rolleyes:

    You are in a totally different age group!
  • Aug 10, 2008, 01:49 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    I know this sounds so cliché but love knows no age.
    I was asked out by a 17 and we dated for a month but she broke it off because of reasons and I say I hope you and that girl have a good time (even if you don't date). By the way I'm 13
  • Aug 10, 2008, 02:01 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KissMe10der
    See in other posts, You guys say things like.. Oh that shouldn't matter, if you likes someone why let.. (Blah Blah Blah) effect whether or not you like someone.

    I personally dont feel that age is horrable. I have always dated older boys, but I was more mature... at 13 or 14.

    Age doesnt determine someone, it determines experiences. How can a Law be right for everyone? Dont take that out of context. Im talking about the age law. Even when someone is caught who was in a relationship with the younger person, they try not to post them on the sex offender list.

    I think if someone is in high school, and surrounded by boys or girls of all grades and ages. That it should be ok. How can you help feeling attracted to that person? You can't sit there and say.. "Well, we have everything in common.. but OH NO, we can't date cause your 2 or 3 years older then me. " Love comes in all packages, and I know there is always a possibility of a older man preying on a young female. But Im saying high school should be ok. Not a 21 year old dating a 14 year old.. Does that makes sence?



    I think your answer was almost perfect
  • Aug 10, 2008, 02:20 AM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrcuddlesworth
    i think ur answer was almost perfect

    Okay, let me first clarify that "dating" is fine in high school. In fact, one of the best times of my life! BUT!. it is irresponsible to give someone general advice, and especially when this is a situation which is not entirely accepted by all, and when at the age of 14, you may think you know your own sexuality, but you just may not.

    Sexuality comes with maturity, and hell, I thought I knew everything at 14 too! But the fact is, you just don't. You don't even know enough about life at that age. Trust me, I am not some prude that made good decisions! You can honestly trust me on that one! I also grew up to regret many of those decisions.

    I got married very young, and I thought I knew everything on the planet that there was to know! I also thought that people older than me were full of s*it! Now I know what they were talking about, and wish I would've listened a lot more than I did.

    Bottom line once again. 14 years old is much too young to make a serious decision about these things. Gaining experience is one thing, but taking advantage is another.
  • Aug 10, 2008, 02:25 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    Its only dating what's the worse thing that could happen omg
    And I don't think older people talk sh** I actually respect more older people than my peers but still,, My relationship was fine nothing bad happened.
    And another cliché
    LOVE KNOWS NO BOUNDRYS
  • Aug 10, 2008, 02:52 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrcuddlesworth
    its only dating whats the worse thing taht could happen omg
    and i dont think older people talk sh** i actually respect more older people than my peers but still,.,. my relationship was fine nothing bad happened.
    and another cliche
    LOVE KNOWS NO BOUNDRYS

    Ya, that's right, no boundrys, who cares if you go to jail for statatory rape, it's all in the name of love.

    Jeesh!
  • Aug 10, 2008, 02:58 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    I mean if they just date then nothing bad could come out of it unless they start sexual intercouse
  • Aug 10, 2008, 03:03 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    Plus she can't go to jail or get probation or anything like that if she doesn't have sexual intercourse I just looked it up on wikipedia it clearly states its legal until sex is involved
  • Aug 10, 2008, 03:12 AM
    starbuck8
    Spell check
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrcuddlesworth
    its only dating whats the worse thing taht could happen omg
    and i dont think older people talk sh** i actually respect more older people than my peers but still,.,. my relationship was fine nothing bad happened.
    and another cliche
    LOVE KNOWS NO BOUNDRYS

    Your relationship may have not turned out bad... good for you! BUT, that doesn't mean that all of them will go that way. That is why we are here to give advice. We base it on experience, but also on common sense. That is why we don't just say, well this happened to me, so that is the way it is.

    What is the worst thing that could happen? You really have to be kidding me here right? Please tell me that you are. Not only what Altenweg mentioned, but STD's don't discriminate! Not to mention the physchological and physiological things that are going on with raging hormones at that age.

    Love does have many boundaries! It depends where you set them. Love isn't that gushy feeling that you get. Love is a commitment, and something that actually requires work in order to sustain it.
  • Aug 10, 2008, 03:33 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    Just to let you know its politicly incorrect to say std's they are now sti- sexaul transmitted infections
  • Aug 10, 2008, 03:36 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    And just to say one last thing : it is not wrong that your are lesbain
  • Aug 10, 2008, 04:31 AM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrcuddlesworth
    and just to say one last thing : it is not wrong that ur are lesbain

    Do you really want to talk politics here? STD's are what they are. They are diseases! I am not even about to argue this with you, as you have gotten on the politically correct train here. If you had taken the time to read through the thread my dear, you may have gotten the knowledge that you needed to answer the way you just did. Never once did I say that being gay was wrong in any shape, form, or fashion. Please do your homework before you answer, and read back through the other answers on this thread. (and any other threads you may give an answer to) You might then be able to give an informed answer.

    Thank you!
  • Aug 10, 2008, 04:34 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    I'm just letting drummergirl know
  • Aug 10, 2008, 04:35 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    Pluz they not called std's its now sti's sexauly transmitted infections
    Because not all of them are diseases
  • Aug 10, 2008, 04:36 AM
    starbuck8
    As have we all. It is important here to read through all responses to know what you are dealing with. I will now leave this up to other people to respond, that aren't just going to agree or disagree, but to give reasonable advice.

    Edit: Only your Dr. will know that for sure.

    I'm signing out now!
  • Aug 10, 2008, 04:36 AM
    Mrcuddlesworth
    And I think you should be the one doing there homework lol
  • Aug 10, 2008, 11:58 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrcuddlesworth
    i mean if they just date then nothing bad could come out of it unless they start sexual intercouse

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrcuddlesworth
    plus she can't go to jail or get probation or anything like that if she doesnt have sexual intercourse i just looked it up on wikipedia it clearly states its legal until sex is involved

    Its not just sexual intercourse. ANY sexual activity can be used to prosecute statutory rape.

    If its just confined to dating, its not a legal issue. But, as noted, love does have its boundaries and teenagers may not be able to truly determine if they are in love. Teenagers go through crushes over and over.
  • Aug 10, 2008, 04:45 PM
    drummergirl6
    Didn't realsie the thread would cause an argument
  • Aug 10, 2008, 06:15 PM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drummergirl6
    didnt realsie the thread would cause an argument

    All is fine. Nothing to worry about. You asked a question, and we gave our opinions, and answers to the best of our ability. I just can't help sometimes, but to reply to someone that seems to have not read the thread in it's entirety, and is attempting to give one sentence advice, (if that was an attempt at it). No worries. :)
  • Aug 10, 2008, 06:55 PM
    xO babee
    NO ! my friend did this she was 14 nd met a guy on myspace nd he was 17. i think this is very wrong and dont do it !
  • Aug 10, 2008, 09:47 PM
    HUNNiE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starbuck8
    This has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation!! This has to do with the age and maturity level!! WHY, when the OP has already given her feedback, as to what she is going to do, are you still trying to encourage her to have a relationship with this underage child?? :rolleyes:

    You are in a totally different age group!!


    Well your right about that
    I guess I'm nieve sometimes but
    You don't have to criticize me OK
    She's asking for advice I'm giving her my experience
    And well if it helps her then I'm glad if not
    Well maybe someone else's will...
    OK well thanks for your time bye.
  • Aug 10, 2008, 09:52 PM
    HUNNiE
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drummergirl6
    wel im a girl ive just turned 17 im gay an ive come out to my family an friends an i met this girl wel we kinda beeen flirting a little bit but she is 14 an i dunno if it is wrong to date a girl this young as of the maturity levels between us, i just wanted ur views thank you

    Well if you date
    This girl it might not go
    So good your
    Muturity is at different
    Levels I don't know
    How you feel towards her
    And if its love well then I
    Think she'll understand why
    It can't go on right now if
    Its meant to be it'll happen in the future...

    GOOD LUCK
  • Aug 10, 2008, 10:09 PM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HUNNiE
    Well your right about that
    i guess im nieve sometimes but
    you dont have to criticize me ok
    shes asking for advice im giving her my experience
    and well if it helps her then im glad if not
    well maybe someone elses will...
    ok well thanks for your time bye.

    I honestly meant no criticism towards you yourself, and there were no ill feelings. Everyone experiments! My first and main point here, was to consider the age gap.

    17 and 19, I can somewhat understand. But 14 and 17, is just a whole different story. They are at two different places in their lives at that age. That is a total different ball game! Just as a 20 yr old girl, dating a... lets say just for the sake of argument... a 50 year old guy or girl. Sure, at that age it may once in a blue moon, happen in the name of love! More often in the name of cold hard cash. But in that case they are both grown adults, and can make adult decisions. 14 and 17 year old teenagers cannot! People that are a bit older with some experience can see around corners, where a 14 yr old doesn't even know the corner is there!

    So my main point was this. It had nothing to do with being homosexual or heterosexual, girl/boy/boy/girl. The point was, that she was asking about a girl that is too young to make these kind of decisions, with an older and more experienced girl that has apparently confirmed her own sexuality within herself. At 14. When you are experimenting, you can make some really bad choices in life, that can haunt you for the rest of your life, if you are not 100% sure of who you are.

    There was no need for you to be rude, or take anything here out of the context that I intended.
  • Aug 10, 2008, 10:17 PM
    Janmarie
    A 14 year old is still a baby and way to young to make mature decissions or to be having any kind of sex...male or female. I don't know what the law states about what is considered rape for lesbians but you realize that when you turn 18 you are considered an adult and she will be a minor and her parents may not like this relationship.
  • Sep 5, 2008, 03:16 AM
    drummergirl6
    My ex. Why now?
    Right so we split 2 months ago an we hadn't spoke for that period.. she finished with me an broke my heart yet she was the one who treated me like a fool making me give up friends an stuff I enjoyed doing ( playing in my band) an I stuck with her for over a year because I loved her so much an she said she did to but clearly not if she did all that right.. wel now she been txtin some girl who messaged me an told me tp ask her 2 leave her alone ii didn't do this as I have no contatc wit my ex but now I've heard that my ex is still saying lies to this other girl about me (my ex has lied about everythin when we were together) an now suddenly my ex sent me a message asin if I wan talk an sort out any hard feelings she said she still cares for me a lot but I barly spoke to her I can't do it.. but I don't understand why now after 2 months she decides to speak to me?
    Any advice on what I should do an why she doing it now
    Thanks
  • Sep 5, 2008, 09:52 AM
    talaniman
    Usually when people go out of their way to lie, and drag you through the mud, they are having a hard time moving on with their lives. You are not responsible for what she does, nor can you control it.

    She is immature, and selfish, and very vindictive, and ignoring her until she leaves you alone, would be the best way to go, but her drama will get old to everyone after a while.

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