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  • Jul 31, 2013, 12:26 PM
    jackieelovee_
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Naw, no pressure just prove you love him. The oldest line in the book for guys to get in a girls pants and the only proof he will accept.

    How did that poster idea work out for you?

    The poster idea he loved and it was even more cuter because it wasn't just me and one poster . It was me and like 8friensa and we all had posters
  • Jul 31, 2013, 01:27 PM
    N0help4u
    Of course he liked the poster but you still got a long way to go.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 02:01 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jackieelovee_ View Post
    The poster idea he loved and it was even more cuter because it wasnt just me and one poster . It was me and like 8friensa and we all had posters

    So why is he asking for more? Ask him what else he wants and if he has no ideas, tell him to trust you and stop this silly childish game!!

    It's demeaning and cruel.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 02:40 PM
    imperfect_me
    That's ridiculous if he trusts you than there's no need of him asking for your prove!
    You should first get to know if he trusts you or not if he trusts you than why would he tell you to prove him! (he might be believing the chaeting thing your friend told him,that's why he's asking,maybe)
  • Jul 31, 2013, 03:28 PM
    Homegirl 50
    I thinking he knows she didn't cheat.He's trying to get in her pants and have it be all her idea.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 03:31 PM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    I thinking he knows she didn't cheat.He's trying to get in her pants and have it be all her idea.

    Yep It's a reverse psychological trick.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:35 PM
    odinn7
    And she's eating it all up because no matter what we say, she is going to do what she wants anyway... or I mean... what he wants.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:41 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by odinn7 View Post
    And she's eating it all up because no matter what we say, she is going to do what she wants anyway....or I mean....what he wants.

    ... because she loves him and wants to keep him in her life because he is so worth it.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:42 PM
    odinn7
    ... he is the best thing that ever happened to her.

    We've heard it all before, haven't we?
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:46 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by odinn7 View Post
    ...he is the best thing that ever happened to her.

    We've heard it all before, haven't we?

    Don't forget the part about his being so mature and so much fun to be with.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:49 PM
    N0help4u
    2 babies later, 5 guys later,. and then number 6 they still don't see the full picture.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:51 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    2 babies later, 5 guys later, ........and then number 6 they still don't see the full picture.

    And then an appearance on the Steve Wilkos or Jerry Springer show.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 05:58 PM
    N0help4u
    And then DNA testing on MAURY's show
  • Jul 31, 2013, 06:01 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    And then DNA testing on MAURY's show

    And then she will check in with Dr Phil who will say, "What were you THINKing???" and "How was that working for you?"

    I hope the OP comes to realize how the effects of this crush can escalate and knock her off her pins,
  • Jul 31, 2013, 06:57 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Cough - did OP answer how a 20 year old who knows about the relationship got custody of a 15 year old - and the other things I asked?
  • Jul 31, 2013, 07:03 PM
    odinn7
    ... no... why would she answer such a thing? This is about her trying to prove to her wonderful and caring boyfriend how much she loves him! She needs to prove it or she may lose him forever!
  • Jul 31, 2013, 10:48 PM
    jackieelovee_
    Rude.

    We talked about it and if I do get pregnant than he's staying . Even if I don't he's staying.
  • Jul 31, 2013, 11:19 PM
    odinn7
    ... well, unless he's in jail... or maybe changes his mind.

    Right now you think you have all the answers. Everyone your age does. I did when I was your age. We get older and realize we didn't really know and we made many mistakes because of it. Some mistakes not too bad and others pretty bad. One day you will realize we were right but I hope it isn't because what you are going to do turns out to be one of the major mistakes in your life.

    We might have been a little "rude" in trying to make a point to you but you don't seem to understand what we are trying to tell you... and that we do care and are trying to keep you from being used by him and regretting your decision. You think it will all work out... he said he will stay... do you really think he will tell you he is going to leave? Guys do this all the time... You don't want to hear it and you will do what you will do... I just hope it doesn't have negative consequences for you.

    The thing that confuses me the most... you came here asking what to do and you were told honestly... but you didn't care to hear it... so why ask in the first place?

    Good luck.
  • Aug 1, 2013, 12:37 AM
    jackieelovee_
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by odinn7 View Post
    ...well, unless he's in jail....or maybe changes his mind.

    Right now you think you have all the answers. Everyone your age does. I did when I was your age. We get older and realize we didn't really know and we made many mistakes because of it. Some mistakes not too bad and others pretty bad. One day you will realize we were right but I hope it isn't because what you are going to do turns out to be one of the major mistakes in your life.

    We might have been a little "rude" in trying to make a point to you but you don't seem to understand what we are trying to tell you...and that we do care and are trying to keep you from being used by him and regretting your decision. You think it will all work out....he said he will stay....do you really think he will tell you he is going to leave? Guys do this all the time....You don't want to hear it and you will do what you will do....I just hope it doesn't have negative consequences for you.

    The thing that confuses me the most....you came here asking what to do and you were told honestly....but you didn't care to hear it.....so why ask in the first place?

    Good luck.

    I came here for ADVICE. And yes I am taking in consideration everything you been telling me but why can't you for once listen to me ? Like OK , tell me not but you were young once and you had a person who made you feel above and beyond.. out of every one in my life he's the ONLY person who makes me feel like Im actually meant to be here and its hard when your barely 15 with one younger sister and no grandparents or anyone but mainly your cousin who her self is still enjoying being young . Losing him would suck ! When I fell in depression because my parents and older sister passed guess who was there for me , next to me the whole way ? Exactly. HIM . Not my cousin . But HIM.
  • Aug 1, 2013, 02:53 AM
    imperfect_me
    But if she thinks he's the right one for her,than why is she having doubts??
    If she thinks she can trust him than she should do what her heart states..!
  • Aug 1, 2013, 07:02 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by imperfect_me View Post
    but if she thinks he's the right one for her,than why is she having doubts???
    if she thinks she can trust him than she should do what her heart states...!!

    Well spoken by another teen who has a family behind her to guide and support her. You can't follow YOUR heart, and make mistakes because YOUR parents won't let you. Following your heart without guidance and support and boundaries, AND protection is a disaster for teens, and for adults alike.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jackieelovee_ View Post
    I came here for ADVICE. And yes I am taking in consideration everything ya'll been telling me but why can't you for once listen to me ? Like ok , tell me not but you were young once and you had a person who made you feel above and beyond .. outta every one in my life he's the ONLY person who makes me feel like Im actually ment to be here and its hard when your barely 15 with one younger sister and no grandparents or anyone but mainly your cousin who her self is still enjoying being young . Losing him would suck ! When I fell in depression because my parents and older sister passed guess who was there for me , next to me the whole way ? Exactly. HIM . Not my cousin . But HIM.

    I can understand the intensity of your gratitude for this fellow, as we all need someone to lean on in troubled times, and your situation is greatly magnified with the tragedies you have endured at such a young age. But while you are stuck figuring how to prove your love you must also give thought to protecting your own interests and standing up for your own future.

    I know its scary facing life without him, and even thinking of him leaving, but older wiser people are just telling you that him asking you to prove your love to him is a big red flag that something isn't right here with him, and you better pay attention, before you make a BIG mistake.

    He may not even know he is doing the wrong thing because he is young himself, so I guess you have to think what's best for the BOTH of you. Now that's worth considering isn't it? His thinking maybe OFF, because you have to prove yourself after all this time because of other things besides YOUR actions.

    Its NOT right, nor is it healthy, and may hurt you both.
  • Aug 1, 2013, 07:21 AM
    JudyKayTee
    "I came here for ADVICE. And yes I am taking in consideration everything ya'll been telling me but why can't you for once listen to me ? Like ok , tell me not but you were young once and you had a person who made you feel above and beyond .. outta every one in my life he's the ONLY person who makes me feel like Im actually ment to be here and its hard when your barely 15 with one younger sister and no grandparents or anyone but mainly your cousin who her self is still enjoying being young . Losing him would suck ! When I fell in depression because my parents and older sister passed guess who was there for me , next to me the whole way ? Exactly. HIM . Not my cousin . But HIM."


    Yes, I was young "once" (as you so graciously put it). Yes, I certainly fell madly in love "when I was young."

    The difference is I never traded my body for his love - I don't think that's much of an even exchange.

    If he supports and loves you and will never, ever leave you (and I could post probably a thousand threads over the years from women who started with that same mindset and were very surprised when "he" moved on) why is he pressuring you for something which makes you so conflicted? People who love you don't pressure, don't encourage, you to do something which you do not 100
    % want to do. I don't understand that part.

    So, now that you have my undivided attention, can you explain that to me?

    I also still don't understand why a 20 year old has custody of you. I understand your parents died. I understand your sister died. I understand that you are/were depressed and there was no one, absolutely no one, there "for you" except for this person. Why is that? Where was/is everyone else?

    Did you seek counselling for your depression?

    Depression can come and go. Sex is not a quick fix - sex isn't even a slow fix

    And as far as what sucks and what doesn't suck, I'm a widow. I know about losing and how unfair life can be and what sucks and doesn't suck. You don't own that territory.

    But, back to the basics - people who love you don't pressure you to do something if you aren't 100% on board with it.

    And just wondering - why didn't you post that he was asking you for sex to prove your love at the very beginning? Why did we have to wade through post after post of how you prove your love (and that includes making posters for an almost adult) before we got to the truth?

    If you were comfortable with the idea of sex with this person to prove anything I think you would have been more up front.
  • Aug 1, 2013, 07:37 AM
    Homegirl 50
    I'm also interested in why you and your younger sibling were given to a 20 year old. That does not sound right to me.

    If someone cares for you, and knowing all you have been through, they would not be pressuring you to prove your love. That is a very selfish and immature request.

    I understand your loneliness, but this is a negative situation. This guy should not be asking you to prove anything.
  • Aug 1, 2013, 09:07 AM
    JudyKayTee
    As a mother - all right, stepmother - my concern would be after you prove your love by having sex with him, he feels "uncertain of your love" a second time, he thinks you've cheated (whatever form that takes), what is the next step in "proving your love" and holding on to him? Three somes? Shoplifting? Sex with his friend(s)?

    I very well remember the NYC casting coaches - I certainly had friends who participated. They didn't get jobs... but they certainly got an opportunity to take things one step higher (or lower) up the ladder to "prove" how much they wanted the job. I don't see the difference.

    When you body becomes a bargaining chip you are going to lose self respect.

    And when you break up and it's posted all over FB and the Internet, what then?
  • Aug 1, 2013, 06:39 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    We tell you these things because you need to hear the truth, but you do not want to listen.

    We tell you these things because after almost 20 years of answering questions on boards like this, we have had 1000s of girls come "after they had sex" not understanding why the boy left, after they proved it. Or that the boy left after she got a STD or after she got pregnant.

    We want you to have a better life than what happened to these other girls.

    And yes any and I mean any man who says this to a young girl, is just wanting sex and it is a way to try to force her to do it.

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