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  • Jun 6, 2012, 10:54 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    Right cobra, I've heard your advice so cheers for that. However, dont tell me that I should be ashamed. Im not ashamed of anything whether you like it or not. Im glad that's all you've got to say, because in the nicest way possible, your advice is doing no good. And you dont have a clue what my parents have done for me. They may be nice now, doesn't mean they always were.

    No you're right I don't know. I don't know what it would have felt like either, but I did know someone probably much worse off than you. Is living at home really that bad that you don't feel you owe your parents anything?
  • Jun 6, 2012, 10:58 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    Im not ashamed of anything whether you like it or not.

    Actually, I think you are.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    , i know having unprotected sex is stupid and irresponsible

    That certainly sounds like you are ashamed to me.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 11:02 AM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    Actually, I think you are.



    That certainly sounds like you are ashamed to me.

    Think what you like, but I know as a fact I'm not ashamed.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 11:08 AM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    That certainly sounds like you are ashamed to me.

    It doesn't mean I'm ashamed, it means I did something silly. Doesn't mean I'm ashamed of anything.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    It doesn't mean im ashamed, it means I did something silly. Doesn't mean im ashamed of anything.

    You went for the instant gratification without considering the very real and possible consequences. Or, if you did momentarily think about them, you concluded with, "It won't happen to me." You're not different from any other teenager in the world, not even from us when we were teens.

    Three Chicago area teens are dead today after a tragic car accident yesterday. They felt like they would live forever and took a chance that they never would have taken had they been older--and now they are lying in funeral homes. Most of us luck out when we make bad decisions and everything works out okay, but some of us don't get lucky. I hope you luck out and learn from this.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:16 PM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Wondergirl again.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:16 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    It doesn't mean im ashamed, it means I did something silly. Doesn't mean im ashamed of anything.

    Do you regret it? Wish you hadn't done it? That's what being ashamed means.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:26 PM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    Do you regret it? Wish you hadn't done it? That's what being ashamed means.

    I don't regret having sex with my boyfriend because I care about him? And those teens who died is an absolute tragedy and I pray their families have the support they need. My sister died and I don't need you to tell me that not everyone is lucky. I don't know why everyone is giving me a freaking lecture, I just want some statistics and now I can't have any statistics, please just leave it.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:41 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    I dont regret having sex with my boyfriend because I care about him?!

    You are really in denial. If you really don't regret having sex, then you wouldn't be so upset about the possibility of being pregnant. Since pregnancy is a consequence of having sex, then one does not follow the other.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:47 PM
    Hailey555
    Oh just go away! Look, I might be pregnant, I might not be pregnant. Im sick of getting notifications about you! Im just going to wait it out like J_9 said, so please now stop posting because it's making me worse than I wad before
  • Jun 6, 2012, 12:50 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Sorry if I say GOOD< perhaps something may get though to you about your actions. You seem to have or don't want to take any responsibility for your actions. Not understand the seriousness of what could happen. And will just keep making the same mistakes till they are pregnant if you are not now.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 01:21 PM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Sorry if I say GOOD< perhaps something may get though to you about your actions. You seem to have or don't want to take any responsiblity for your actions. Not understand the seriousness of what could happen. And will just keep making the same mistakes till they are pregnant if you are not now.

    Thank you! The same thing has been on my mind the whole time. A part of me wants her to be pregnant so she can learn the hard way, because she seems to need to, but the other part of me wouldn't want to wish that on any 16 year old.

    What's done is done though, and nothing can be taken back. It sure sucks, the world we live.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 01:45 PM
    Hailey555
    Wow you two are lovely
  • Jun 6, 2012, 04:12 PM
    Alty
    Hailey, I get your anger. You wanted someone to come along and say "Hey kid, don't worry, you're not pregnant, so go on with your happy life and don't give it another thought". No one can do that. The facts are, you had unprotected sex during a time when the majority of women are most fertile. Will sperm meet egg? Only time will tell. No one here can give you statistics. You either get pregnant, or you don't. Either way, you'll have to wait and see.

    What you don't understand is that everyone that's responding to you is doing so because we have kids, we were kids, and you are a kid! The fact that you think that raising a baby is easy, or that you know anything about it, is scary. The fact that you had unprotected sex, knowing full well that you could get pregnant, is scary.

    You may think you're mature, but really, you're not. You're like every other 16 year old I know. You're just like I was at 16. Screw the consequences, live for the moment, and whatever happens, no big deal. Someone else will take care of it.

    I know you didn't want the lectures, but kiddo, you need them. I wish someone had given me the advice I've read on this thread when I was 16.

    Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. In other words, sometimes you have to say "You're wrong, you're not mature, you are making a huge mistake, you're playing with your life", and if the poster doesn't like it, at least you know you did the best you could to make them see the light.

    I wish I could give you peace of mind, but I can't. There's a chance that you're pregnant. Those are the facts. Are you? Don't know. You have to wait, just like every other woman on this Earth in the same situation. You did increase the odds of pregnancy considerably, but hopefully you got the empty chamber in this round of Russian roulette.

    Learn from this. Read the posts as the mature 16 year old you claim to be. Better yet, if you are pregnant, and you have a daughter, and raise her. What advice would you want strangers giving her if she thinks she's pregnant at the age of 16? Can you think that far ahead? One day you will. Hopefully not 9 months from now.

    Good luck. I hope that you dodge the bullet this time. I really do.
  • Jun 6, 2012, 06:58 PM
    C0bra_M3nace
    **Applauds Alty**
  • Jun 8, 2012, 10:32 AM
    Hailey555
    Thanks for everyone's advice. I didn't want people to come alone and say Hailey your definitely not pregnant, I wanted the truth and some statistics. And your all good at telling me the truth so thanks, it's the statistics your not so good with. You say there are no statistics that can help me but J_9 who does this for a job day in and day out said it's 50/50. So he was very helpful, I didn't therefore need you to keep chipping in. But thanks for your time. If anyone has any more statistics that can help me, please tell me because I really only know that I have to wait and I just wish I had more information so I would appreciate some HELPFUL advice:)
  • Jun 8, 2012, 11:19 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    Thanks for everyone's advice. I didn't want people to come alone and say Hailey your definately not pregnant, I wanted the truth and some statistics. And your all good at telling me the truth so thanks, it's the statistics your not so good with. You say there are no statistics that can help me but J_9 who does this for a job day in and day out said it's 50/50. So he was very helpful, I didn't therefore need you to keep chipping in. But thanks for your time. If anyone has any more statistics that can help me, please tell me because I really only know that I have to wait and I just wish I had more information so I would appreciate some HELPFUL advice:)


    I know how you are feeling with the statistics, you want something to soothe your brain so you can sleep well at night, but reality is there is no real statistic sweetheart. There are many factors that can contribute, whether it be your fertility, whether the sperm made it to the egg or not and the list goes on and on.

    All you can know for sure is that you have a real chance of becoming pregnant, an waiting is all you can do, only time will tell now.

    I'm deeply sorry for offending you and aggravating you in the way I did. I truly care about the people who post on this website asking for advice, whether it's for statistics, help with a problem, or even advice on how to deal with something. Having said that, everything I said was to genuinely help you, whether you wanted to hear it or not. This is a very real issue you have that can change your life forever, and if you are pregnant I don't want you to be hurt and let down if everything that follows does not meet your expectations.

    I wish you the best, I really do, and I hope if you have any more issues or concerns you think of us.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 11:27 AM
    Hailey555
    'cobramenace' I'm really sorry for being rude to you, as you can imagine I'm seriouuusly stressed and everything anyone says is getting to me. I really shouldn't have taken it out on you as you were just trying to help, I'm sorry and thank you
  • Jun 8, 2012, 11:39 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    'cobramenace' im really sorry for being rude to you, as you can imagine im seriouuusly stressed and everything anyone says is getting to me. I really shouldn't have taken it out on you as you were just trying to help, im sorry and thankyou

    You have no need to appologize, I very much realize the stress you are going through, I've been in similar situations myself. I truly hope everything works out for the best, pregnant or not. If you are not I hope you have learnt a valuable lesson from this experience, but I believe you have.

    Sincerely,
    -Justin
  • Jun 8, 2012, 11:45 AM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace View Post
    You have no need to appologize, I very much realize the stress you are going through, I've been in similar situations myself. I truly hope everything works out for the best, pregnant or not. If you are not I hope you have learnt a valuable lesson from this experience, but I believe you have.

    Sincerely,
    -Justin

    Thank you Justin,
    As hard as it may be for everyone to believe, I do appreciate you commenting so thank you ha:)
    Hailey H
  • Jun 8, 2012, 11:55 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    Thankyou Justin,
    As hard as it may be for everyone to believe, I do appreciate you commenting so thankyou ha:)
    Hailey H

    Put a smile on my face.

    I sure do hope you think of us anytime you're between a rock and a hard place. We're all ready and willing to help.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 11:57 AM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace View Post
    Put a smile on my face.

    I sure do hope you think of us anytime you're between a rock and a hard place. We're all ready and willing to help.

    Well Justin, that put a smile on my face! :) so if I'm having a baby, and it's crying every night and I want to pop out for a bit you up for babysitting? ;) hahaha, seriously though thank you, I'll remember this:)

    Hailey H
  • Jun 8, 2012, 12:07 PM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    Well Justin, that put a smile on my face! :) so if im having a baby, and it's crying every night and I wanna pop out for a bit you up for babysitting? ;) hahaha, seriously though thankyou, i'll remember this:)

    Hailey H

    Sure you can ship him/her via purolator right to my work. ;) Keep us posted.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 12:10 PM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace View Post
    Sure you can ship him/her via purolator right to my work. ;) Keep us posted.

    Haha I'll hold you to that;) And of course I will:)
  • Jun 8, 2012, 01:57 PM
    LadySam
    Hailey,
    I just found this thread and I must say for a moment there I was a little worried about you.
    I am glad for the turn it has taken.
    I have no statistics, or words of wisdom that you haven't already heard, I think you have gotten very good advice.
    I only want to say that I truly hope that you have dodged the bullet this time.
    But I hope you use this as a learning experience.
    Keep us posted, I think I know of a few people who are concerned about your predicament and you.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 02:00 PM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    Hailey,
    I just found this thread and I must say for a moment there I was a little worried about you.
    I am glad for the turn it has taken.
    I have no statistics, or words of wisdom that you haven't already heard, I think you have gotten very good advice.
    I only want to say that I truly hope that you have dodged the bullet this time.
    But I hope you use this as a learning experience.
    Keep us posted, I think I know of a few people who are concerned about your predicament and you.

    What do you mean you know of a few people who are concerned about me?
  • Jun 8, 2012, 02:10 PM
    LadySam
    I'm talking about the people here who have been answering your post, not personally.
    What I have figured out about the people here are they really do care.
    They are mothers, fathers, grandparents, every day people from all walks of life and they are here because they do care.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 02:14 PM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    I'm talking about the people here who have been answering your post, not personally.
    What I have figured out about the people here are they really do care.
    They are mothers, fathers, grandparents, every day people from all walks of life and they are here because they do care.

    Oh you confused me. I know they care, I didn't realise it at first but now I do
  • Jun 8, 2012, 02:17 PM
    LadySam
    Sorry for the confusion. Yeah, I picked up on your realizing it during my reading, can I tell you it me me smile inside.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 02:31 PM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    Sorry for the confusion. Yeah, I picked up on your realizing it during my reading, can I tell you it me me smile inside.

    Im glad:) I didn't mean to be rude, I'm not that sort of person, reading back the conversation it makes me upset how I was talking to those people, I just want some answers:( it's so hard not knowing if I have something growing inside me
  • Jun 8, 2012, 04:14 PM
    LadySam
    I understand, that's a lot of stress for a young lady, And I think you lashed out because of some of the confusion and uncertainty you were feeling.
    The important thing is that you know now these people aren't out to get you, they only wanted to help.
    I bet once you read back you saw suggestions and advice you really didn't look that good at before because of being upset.
    Soak it all in it's good advice.
    Good luck to you dear, I'm keeping up with this OK?
    I want to know how you are doing.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 04:23 PM
    Hailey555
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadySam View Post
    I understand, that's a lot of stress for a young lady, And I think you lashed out because of some of the confusion and uncertainty you were feeling.
    The important thing is that you know now these people aren't out to get you, they only wanted to help.
    I bet once you read back you saw suggestions and advice you really didn't look that good at before because of your being upset.
    Soak it all in it's good advice.
    Good luck to you dear, I'm keeping up with this ok?
    I want to know how you are doing.

    thank you, I will post as soon as I know anything
  • Jun 8, 2012, 04:41 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hailey555 View Post
    Im glad:) I didn't mean to be rude, im not that sort of person, reading back the conversation it makes me upset how I was talking to those people, I just want some answers:( it's so hard not knowing if I have something growing inside me

    You're frustrated, and upset, and stressed. We get that. We really do. I've been in the same boat you've been in, and sadly, I didn't learn anything from it. But I got very lucky. Very very lucky. I found out later that I had a condition (easily fixed) that would never have allowed me to get pregnant (until it was fixed, which it was). So maybe it wasn't all just luck. It was my body too.

    Fact is, I put myself at risk too many times when I was a teen. I wish I had known then what I know now.

    Really, everything I've written to you, are the very words I will tell my daughter when she's old enough to hear them.

    There's absolutely no reason why you have to learn from your own mistakes. You can learn from others mistakes too.

    Please let us know what happens. I sincerely hope that you're not pregnant, and that what you're feeling right now, comes back to you the next time you're in a passionate moment and thinking about having sex.

    Babies are tough work. I have two kids. Babies are the most selfish creatures on the face of this Earth, Dog love them, and they will test everything you have in you. I was 27 when I had my first child. I was married, financially secure, owned a home, you name it. I thought I was ready. I was ready in all the ways that mattered, but I have to tell you, it was hard. Being a parent is the hardest job I've ever had, and I used to clean toilets in a welding shop! ;)

    We're here if you need any help. We're here for you when you find out whether you're pregnant or not, and if you are, we're here to help by discussing the options you have, and just for moral support.

    I've been on this site for 4 and a half years. The people here are great. I'd trust them with my own kids. :)
  • Jun 8, 2012, 06:03 PM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alty again.

    Words of wisdom, Alty, words of wisdom.
  • Jun 8, 2012, 06:08 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace View Post
    Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alty again.

    Words of wisdom, Alty, words of wisdom.

    Thank you kind sir. :)
  • Jun 9, 2012, 01:38 AM
    Hailey555
    Thank you all:)
  • Jun 9, 2012, 05:41 AM
    smearcase
    Here are four sites that give odds of getting pregnant. You can find many more.
    I can't think of any reason why there wouldn't be valid statistics available on an issue that would have been studied to the degree that this one has.
    What Are The Odds of Conceiving And Having A Baby | BabyMed.com
    Odds of Getting Pregnant - Chances of Getting Pregnant - Redbook

    Emergency contraception: Risk of pregnancy without birth control
    Odds of Getting Pregnant by Age
  • Jun 9, 2012, 05:56 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smearcase View Post
    Here are four sites that give odds of getting pregnant.

    The problem with any such statistical analysis is that it doesn't measure the odds a specific person will get pregnant. It measures the percentages of a test sample of people. So it doesn't say that Jane Doe stands a 40% chance of getting pregnant it says that 40% of the woman surveyed that met x conditions became pregnant.

    If you find comfort (or alarm) in the statistics these sites offer, then fine. But the facts are that you had multiple deposits of sperm during a period when you were probably most fertile. So the probability that an egg would be fertilized under those conditions is a least 50/50 as J_9 said. Could be much higher though. Think of it this way. Lets say you have a bunch of 1 ft square tiles. Lets say you spread 10 of them out around you and you throw a bean bag in the air. The probability of the bag landing on a tile is one number. Now spread out more tiles and the odds increase. Throw up 2 bags and the odds further increase. That's what you have done, you spread a lot of tiles and have thrown multiple bean bags. But no one can really say what the odds are that a bean bag will hit a tile.
  • Jun 9, 2012, 06:42 AM
    smearcase
    She asked for odds. There are sites that appear to be legitimate like Princeton who are willing to state their findings and make general predictions, which we all know are not guarantees. But that doesn't make predictions based on science worthless.
    She hasn't expressed any comfort or alarm based on my post. The odds of your bean bag hitting a particular tile certainly can be computed based on mathematical probability so long as it is clear set of circumstances given.
  • Jun 9, 2012, 08:56 AM
    C0bra_M3nace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smearcase View Post
    She asked for odds. There are sites that appear to be legitimate like Princeton who are willing to state their findings and make general predictions, which we all know are not guarantees. But that doesn't make predictions based on science worthless.
    She hasn't expressed any comfort or alarm based on my post. The odds of your bean bag hitting a particular tile certainly can be computed based on mathematical probability so long as it is clear set of circumstances given.

    When you find an equation that tells me the exact odds of a bean bag hitting tiles, when someone random is throwing it. Let me know, statistics and odds are not based of fact, but of guessing and assuming.

    And we all know what they say about assuming.

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