I do realize it is in-appropriate. Your insults at the end of what you said have been noted. I've known I need help with my depression for a while. And I just wanted to know the laws, not your moral opinion
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I do realize it is in-appropriate. Your insults at the end of what you said have been noted. I've known I need help with my depression for a while. And I just wanted to know the laws, not your moral opinion
Dude, it's AGAINST you! I have a 17 year old daughter. If she was going after a 12 year old boy I'd lock her up.Quote:
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Is this for or against me? Cause I'm not sure
You should also be locked up and taught a lesson.
You need to seriously get some help before you wind up behind bars.
The law sees it as sexual assault - it's a criminal offence. This is because in the eyes of the law we are unable to give informed consent to sex when still a child.
A boy who has sex with a girl under 16 (17 in NI) is breaking the law. Even if she agrees.
If she is 13-15, the boy could go to prison for two years.
If she is under 13 he could be sentenced to life imprisonment.
A girl age 16 or over who has sex with a boy under 16 can be prosecuted for indecent assault.
BBC - Advice - Age Of Consent
I have copied and pasted a section for your benefit and provided a link to the whole piece regarding underage sex in england.
You will note that at 16 you are of age, and if you have sex with a girl under the age of 13 its life in prison.
Also, to remind you, YOU invited opinion.
That's a startQuote:
Originally Posted by husky004
So get PROFESSIONAL help NOWQuote:
I've known I need help with my depression for a while.
As has been stated already, while this isn't illegal, people's perceptions WILL get you into a deep dark place you DO NOT want to go to.Quote:
and I just wanted to know the laws, not your moral opinion
Are you happy carrying around the label of a PREDATOR and GROOMER for the rest of your life??
The phase Honour Amongst Thieves is very true as criminals will tolerate most things EXCEPT crimes against women and CHILDREN.
I suggest you think long and hard about your destructive course you are setting yourself on.
Ps How's the weather in Melbourne at the moment ?
Humid, but not unberably hot down here. If I liked the heat then I'd say it was very nice, unfortunately I'd prefer to be in canada or the uk during winter. Shame
I'd again, I'd like to say, that SEX WILL NOT BE INVOLVED FOR YEARS. Why don't you people understand that. And that's if we even go past the consideration stage
I thought you were in the UK?
Is it Melbourne or the UK?
An here is another person who didn't help at all. I respect your rules with your daughter. And I haven't done anything wrong. I'm talking about this on here to see if I can go through with a relationship legaly
Well, is it the UK or Melbourne?
Because its under consideration, therein lies the concern.
I am not trying to insult you by saying your immature for your age, I'm basing that opinion on your posts and the information your giving.
If you want to change peoples opinion, you need to take on board what's being said, its not to have a go at you,the root of the concern is to help you realise that dating an 11 year old is not right, no matter what your feelings about her.
She has to head back to the uk, we're in melbourne now
I really should mention at this juncture that AUSTRALIAN Laws concerning this are much STRICTER than the UK ones.
While the ages are the same, the penalties are considerably worse.
Even considering you original post ofWould be seen as GROOMING a minor child and will result in a long prison term and permanent inclusion in the sex offenders register.Quote:
just kissing, holding hands and hugging
Your choice really, but if you ever want to lead some kind of meaningful life I suggest you BACK OFF now!!
I have one question for you Husky004...
Did you actually think you would come here and people would approve of this relationship?
If you did, that seriously shows your level of immaturity.
I know people wouldn't approve of it, but I was hoping for more advice with facts on age laws, and less 'moral wrong' acusations
Well, that would have been more pleasant if you weren't yelling, but thank you for the advice. Now I hate australia even more, and know that it definitely wouldn't work out here
You got the facts. In Australia, where you are now, just kissing and holding hands will result in long term imprisonment.
And I am taking everything into consideration, but being called a pedophile and predator isn't very convincing that I should agree with any of you
It wasn't meant to be pleasant, just the cold hard light of day.Quote:
Originally Posted by husky004
You clearly have very little idea about what you are potentially getting yourself into here and need it telling straight.
Holding hands, the law couldn't do a thing to me in my opinion, even though we haven't done anything but talk so far. Kissing of course would land me in trouble. So we're not
Let's also remember this...
Your IP address is logged by many sites you visit. This one is no exception. What if someone chooses to contact the authorities about this relationship?
Would you think differently about this then?
I know what I'm getting into, it was a risk I took when I asked this question. But I don't care if you have a problem with it. I just needed to know if the law would. And now I know, I'm only here to try and convince everyone that it's not wrong
You aren't going to convince any of us. Sorry, won't happen. We are all, well most of us, parents. We know the difference between right and wrong.
I know the risks, I'm just trying to do the right thing and find out if it's illegal, can't anyone give me credit for not just going ahead with it? At least I asked. A lot of people wouldn't do that beause of the abuse they'll get
The age is different in different parts of the uk where do u live?
What YOU chose to do with your life is YOUR concern, but this course is foolhardy at best if not down right STUPID.Quote:
Originally Posted by husky004
You will NOT be able to convince anyone here that what you are doing has any merit, although we are not your immediate problem, that would be the Australian POLICE.
We will NOT candy coat this as, as you have already acknowledged, is WRONG in so many ways.
And I respect that, as I have said. But even if this is going to end badly, it the only way kids and teens learn from all I have heard, by making mistakes. And I do know the difference between right and wrong. It just depends on who judging
Hi, talking as someone who has been there. First facts... no it is not legal for yous to have sex. You could be done for satutory rape. There is no laws as far as I know on kissing or hugging or holding hands.
Now.. does her parents know about yous? When I was 13 I started to go out with my first boyfriend who was 19 my parents did not like it but they excepted it. Saying that I got pregnant at 15 and they were not happy they could have sent him to prison for for 5 years but I'm glad they didn't because we are still together 16 years and 3 kids later. So what I'm saying is talk to her parents and yours and see what they say.
I hope this helped.
The OP is NOT in the UK, but rather in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyrabbit2310
Bunny, please pay attention to the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyrabbit2310
The OP is NOT in the UK, but Australia.
Also the Age of consent in England is the SAME across the whole country
It did, you're the first person to not call me a pedophile or saying what I'm doing is wrong. Thank you, and I will talk to her mum, her fathers dead, but I would prefer to not tell my parents. I'm not a fan of the 'moraly wrong' lectures
And I know that may seem immature, but it her mum being okay with it that I would like to get more than my own
I have just read down through the answers some of you put here and I'm shocked. Yes I'm a new member but I joined to find help not be judged. I can't believe yous would attack someone like this.
Shame on all yous!
Shame on us? We don't condone illegal behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helenwozere
So you would allow your 13 year old to date an 8 year old? Maybe you need some help as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helenwozere
Thank you, you're the first to give some possotive feedback. And that means more than you know in this
It says uk in the question sorry
Oi, leave helen alone, at least there's some positive reinforcement in there. You should all know that calling someone a pedophile doesn't really get on there persuasive side
Why is that -- why would you prefer not to tell your parents?Quote:
Originally Posted by husky004
Just to clarify, NO ONE referred to you as a paedophile, the terms used where predator and grooming.
I hate to burst your bubble, but it wouldn't work out in Canada either. No where, that I know of, would approve of a relationship that involves a 16 year old teen and an 11 year old child.Quote:
now I hate australia even more, and know that it definitely wouldn't work out here
I would like you to answer something for me, and I did ask in my last post. If you really love her, why not wait to date her? When she's a adult than there's nothing stopping you two from dating. Seven - nine years really isn't that long to wait if you're really in love.
I also want to address the fact that you think we're all being rude. You have to understand something. You're talking to people that all have kids, some of them close in age to you, and the young girl in question. My daughter is 8, it scares the crap out of me that in 3 years I could be facing something like this, and yes, I would view you as a predator, and yes, I'd see you in jail.
You may have innocent intentions towards this girl, but the fact is, she's a child, she is innocent, doesn't know what romantic love is. You are in a position of power because of your age and hers. That's what makes you a predator in the eyes of many of the people posting here.
Also, you asked for advice on the law, and you got it, yet you're still arguing about it. The choice is yours. Do you obey the law, walk away, save yourself from becoming a sex offender (because that's how you'll be viewed in the eyes of the law) and save the girl a lot of heartache and bad memories, or do you continue to date her, proving that you really are a predator, because you know that it's not only morally wrong, but legally wrong as well.
I think that if the girl is willing herself and he's not forcing her into anything, and he's clarifying that he's not touching, I think it's okay. It's just hugging, holding hands, and kissing. People do that normally anyway. I don't think he's going to touch her or anything. It's just my opinion. If they really like each other, I don't think people should be mean about it because it's not any of our choices. It's their choice and you can't really stop love.
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