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  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    That is true, she is the one harvesting and creating the baby.

    You BOTH created it, if there is one. What does "harvesting" mean? Is having a baby like picking tomatoes?
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:21 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You BOTH created it, if there is one. What does "harvesting" mean? Is having a baby like picking tomatoes?

    Haha, yes I am that "koo-koo."

    I meant that she is the temple that is creating a miracle, Ma'am.

    Bringing another little human being into this world is a beautiful thing, but it is just not the right time.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:22 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    neither of us are ready for parent hood. We both have a lot going for our self and having a child...

    I guess you should have thought of that before you took the Penis out of the Pants.

    I can tell you that if she were my daughter, and I do have one her age, I would be prosecuting you. You obviously knew better, otherwise you wouldn't be asking here.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:29 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I guess you should have thought of that before you took the Penis out of the Pants.

    I didn't take my penis out.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I can tell you that if she were my daughter, and I do have one her age, I would be prosecuting you. You obviously knew better, otherwise you wouldn't be asking here.

    I don't think you would, I have a pretty good head on my shoulders. It was a spontaneous moment thing. We were waiting for the right time and unfortunately..
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:34 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    I didn't take my penis out.



    I don't think you would, I have a pretty good head on my shoulders. It was a spontaneous moment thing. We were waiting for the right time and unfortunately..

    You did take your penis out, and you inserted it into an underage girl.

    I don't think you're really getting how much trouble this could cause. A sexual predator, for life. It means being on a sexual offender list, forever. You will be, already are, considered a rapist.

    Having said that, let's not put the buggy in front of the horse. Find out if she's pregnant first, then panic. Right now you're making plans for something that's not even a sure thing.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:39 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    I don't think you would, I have a pretty good head on my shoulders. It was a spontaneous moment thing. We were waiting for the right time and unfortunately..

    But you are the adult who pushes emotion aside and says "no." Sexual spontaneity is not part of the relationship when she is only 15.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:40 PM
    justcurious55

    You have such a good head on your shoulders that even though she may be pregnant with your baby you're still trying to say that you didn't take your penis out? What happened then? Did the stork visit her womb?
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:42 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    I don't think you would,

    Apparently you don't know me. Yes, I would prosecute a boy who takes advantage of my 15 year old.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:46 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    You did take your penis out, and you inserted it into an underage girl.

    I don't think you're really getting how much trouble this could cause. A sexual predator, for life. It means being on a sexual offender list, forever. You will be, already are, considered a rapist.

    Having said that, let's not put the buggy in front of the horse. Find out if she's pregnant first, then panic. Right now you're making plans for something that's not even a sure thing.

    If I am coming off as a smart @SS or not caring, let me know please. Because that is definitely not the case.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:47 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justcurious55 View Post
    you have such a good head on your shoulders that even though she may be pregnant with your baby you're still trying to say that you didn't take your penis out? what happened then? did the stork visit her womb?

    No, she took my penis out.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 PM
    justcurious55

    And what? You were tied up and couldn't say no?
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    If I am coming off as a smart @SS or not caring, let me know please.

    Add avoidant personality too.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    No, she took my penis out.

    And you didn't have the "head on your shoulders" to say no!! You are the more mature person here. Well, at least you are supposed to be.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 06:54 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    No, she took my penis out.

    You do realize that you still inserted it where it shouldn't have been, right?

    Or are you trying to say that she raped you?
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:02 PM
    CGM91

    Well this thread has now gotten to the point where it is just flaming.

    Thank you for the information, I expected a more mature audience especially on a website where many needy people who are desperate for answers come for guidance.

    For those of you who care and are interested let me know and I will keep you informed. The rest, I appreciate your opinions and posts but I do not need the childish reply's and comments.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:05 PM
    justcurious55

    What were you expecting? You had sex with a little girl and she may be pregnant now. But you're trying to say that since she took it out of your pants, it's not your fault? An even though you don't even know for sure if she is pregnant, and if she is you don't even know if she wants an abortion, you're already planning her abortion. If you don't want the sarcastic comments back, don't do stupid things like try to blame this all on her.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:08 PM
    J_9
    Most of us are parents... many of us have young girls, so this hits close to the heart. I'm not apologizing for our remarks, but rather justifying them.

    When you had intercourse with this girl, you KNEW that it was wrong, yet you claim to have a good head on your shoulders.

    Yes, if she is pregnant, you face criminal charges. Her parents do not necessarily have to report it. Here in the states, when I have a minor that comes in pregnant from someone significantly older than her (above the legal age of consent), it is my duty to report that person. If I don't, I could face criminal charges.

    I don't think you comprehend the severity of the situation you might be in.

    Unfortunately you think our responses are childish, but that's because you don't want to hear the truth.

    The truth of the matter is that you were wrong, you broke the law, and you very well could be charged with child molestation and/or statutory rape.

    Next time THINK before you have sex. It can and will ruin the lives of many people at such young ages.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:09 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justcurious55 View Post
    what were you expecting? you had sex with a little girl and she may be pregnant now. but you're trying to say that since she took it out of your pants, it's not your fault? an even though you don't even know for sure if she is pregnant, and if she is you don't even know if she wants an abortion, you're already planning her abortion. if you don't want the sarcastic comments back, don't do stupid things like try to blame this all on her.

    I am not blaming anything on anyone, please..

    She is not a little girl, maybe she's hasn't been on this planet long enough for her to be classified as a "big girl" but she is quite mature. She works 2 jobs, finishing high school and trying to get a scholarship.

    I am planning in the future, what is the problem with doing that? Would you not do the same? Would you not want to create a plan or gain more information on decision you might need to make? If you answered no I question your reasoning and mentality.

    I am not going to be responding to any comments that are intended as hostile, if you ask a question I will answer, if you have information that would be deemed helpful or useful.. please don't be shy.

    Thanks.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:13 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Most of us are parents...many of us have young girls, so this hits close to the heart. I'm not apologizing for our remarks, but rather justifying them.

    When you had intercourse with this girl, you KNEW that it was wrong, yet you claim to have a good head on your shoulders.

    Yes, if she is pregnant, you face criminal charges. Her parents do not necessarily have to report it. Here in the states, when I have a minor that comes in pregnant from someone significantly older than her (above the legal age of consent), it is my duty to report that person. If I don't, I could face criminal charges.

    I don't think you comprehend the severity of the situation you might be in.

    Unfortunately you think our responses are childish, but that's because you don't want to hear the truth.

    The truth of the matter is that you were wrong, you broke the law, and you very well could be charged with child molestation and/or statutory rape.

    Next time THINK before you have sex. It can and will ruin the lives of many people at such young ages.

    In Canada the age of consent was only changed from 14 to 16 last year. I was un-aware of this, I only found out that it was changed after I did my homework.

    And yes I understand most of you can put yourself in this position, and I appreciate your comments more so then anyone Else's as your signature states that you are a registered nurse.

    I made a mistake, it will not happen again.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:16 PM
    justcurious55

    Guess, what, 15 is still a child. She is not, and will not be for some time, a legal adult. That makes her a child.

    There's a difference between planning for the future and freaking out for no good reason.

    Let's really talk about reasoning.

    Reasons not to plan an abortion yet:
    1) she still doesn't know if she's actually pregnant.
    2) you don't know if she actually wants an abortion, if she does in fact turn out to be pregnant.

    And when you say things like she's the one harvesting and creating the baby... I didn't take my penis out, she did... yeah, it sounds like you are blaming her.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:19 PM
    Alty

    You sound a lot older then your age. I think a lot of us are forgetting that you too are still a child.

    Try and see it from our perspective. We're all adults, we lived through our teen years. Many of us made the same mistakes you're making, and we survived.

    We aren't trying to be mean. We aren't trying to bring you down. We're telling you the reality of your actions, the consequences that can follow. But really, you're still a child too.

    You really just need to find out for sure if your girlfriend is pregnant. If she is, then go from there. If not, then you dodged a bullet and I'm hoping this is a wakeup call for the both of you.

    Let's put one foot in front of the other. The next step is a pregnancy test. Then we can move forward from there.

    Okay?
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:21 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    She is not a little girl, maybe shes hasn't been on this planet long enough for her to be classified as a "big girl" but she is quite mature. She works 2 jobs, finishing high school and trying to get a scholarship.

    I mean in all seriousness... do you have any idea how many times we have heard that "she is quite mature" for her age either on this website or from our own children? Not only do many of us have children your ages, but we were also your ages once.

    If she works 2 jobs, the places that she works should be reported. Children are only allowed to work a specific number of hours per week while in school. So this doesn't fly with me.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    I am planning in the future, what is the problem with doing that?

    The future does not include a baby... so keep it in your pants. If you are so mature, then learn how to say NO.

    There is nothing wrong with that, but I'm sure a baby wasn't in the equation.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    Would you not do the same?

    Already been there done that. That's why all 4 of my children were born IN wedlock and so were my grandchildren.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    Would you not want to create a plan or gain more information on decision you might need to make? If you answered no I question your reasoning and mentality.

    Unfortunately for you, if she is pregnant, this is not a decision YOU need to make. It will be HER decision and the decision of her parents. She is a minor and will need the consent of her parents for an abortion. The decision will be out of your hands.
  • Oct 16, 2009, 07:31 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    You sound a lot older then your age. I think a lot of us are forgetting that you too are still a child.

    Try and see it from our perspective. We're all adults, we lived through our teen years. Many of us made the same mistakes you're making, and we survived.

    We aren't trying to be mean. We aren't trying to bring you down. We're telling you the reality of your actions, the consequences that can follow. But really, you're still a child too.

    You really just need to find out for sure if your girlfriend is pregnant. If she is, then go from there. If not, then you dodged a bullet and I'm hoping this is a wakeup call for the both of you.

    Let's put one foot in front of the other. The next step is a pregnancy test. Then we can move forward from there.

    Okay?

    Yes, and thank you. I would have repped you but I already have.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 10:28 AM
    CGM91

    She was about 14-16 days late.

    Not going to be a daddy, yet.

    Lets see how close we can come next month :D! Yea.. no.

    Not going to happen again for a while..
  • Oct 17, 2009, 10:36 AM
    justcurious55

    Although I strongly encourage you to abstain until you are both ready to have children, at least go buy some condoms just in case you have anymore spontaneous moments.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 12:08 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    She was about 14-16 days late.

    Not going to be a daddy, yet.

    Lets see how close we can come next month :D!! Yea.. no.

    Not going to happen again for a while..

    Glad to hear you learned your lesson. Now, remember, she is jail bait!
  • Oct 17, 2009, 12:32 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justcurious55 View Post
    although i strongly encourage you to abstain until you are both ready to have children, at least go buy some condoms just in case you have anymore spontaneous moments.

    I have heard till after marriage, but I have never heard of "when you are ready to have children." Which makes more sense, but.. I doubt I am going to or will be able to wait 10 years to have sex again.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 12:34 PM
    J_9
    In my case I was never "ready to have children" it just happened... all 4 times. Good thing I was married during all 4 times.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 12:46 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Glad to hear you learned your lesson. Now, remember, she is jail bait!!

    For a month and a half :p
  • Oct 17, 2009, 01:01 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    For a month and a half :p

    Yup, then you'll have pregnancy issues to worry about all over again. :cool:
  • Oct 17, 2009, 01:03 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Yup, then you'll have pregnancy issues to worry about all over again. :cool:

    Not until she is on B/C and I finish my Mid-terms.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 01:07 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    Not until she is on B/C and I finish my Mid-terms.

    Just remember that birth control is not 100% effective. As a matter of fact, it wasn't effective at all for me... just ask my two oldest sons. ;)
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:02 PM
    CGM91

    Interesting..
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:11 PM
    J_9
    True story. I was using the birth control pill when I became pregnant with both of my oldest sons. I was on high levels of hormones when I became pregnant with my daughter (3rd child), AND I was rendered sterile by chemo therapy. 6 years later came my youngest son. There are other members here who were using 2 or 3 methods of birth control and still got pregnant.

    This only goes to show that the only 100% proof positive way that pregnancy won't occur is either abstinence or sterilization.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    Interesting..

    Even if she takes the Pill and you use a condom, she could still get pregnant.

    And don't use the pull-out method as birth control.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:16 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Even if she takes the Pill and you use a condom, she could still get pregnant.

    And don't use the pull-out method as birth control.

    WHAT? Why not? :confused: I am kidding =)
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:22 PM
    justcurious55

    Um. Because "pulling out" is code for unprotected sex. It's not even truly considered birth control.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:23 PM
    CGM91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justcurious55 View Post
    um. because "pulling out" is code for unprotected sex. it's not even truly considered birth control.

    Lies.

    Show me some evidence!
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:26 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CGM91 View Post
    Lies.

    Show me some evidence!!

    Why don't you come with me to work tonight and I'll show you some evidence. I was supposed to be off, but 6 women came in in labor, now I got called in to deliver the babies.

    Okay, for real now. Pre-ejaculate is what lubricates the penis prior to ejaculation. You cannot control pre-ejaculate just as a woman cannot control her vaginal lubrication when aroused. Pre-ejaculate contains sperm... sperm makes babies.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:27 PM
    justcurious55

    Are you serious?

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