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  • Jul 28, 2010, 06:01 PM
    kingajsucks
    Psycic ability, what can be done?
    Firstly, let me start by saying that I am posting this for help or advice, so if you are one of the people who are just going to post up a lecture rationalizing what I say, save it and comment elsewhere...

    Im writing this because me and my girlfriend want to seek help with what we both feel is a psychic ability she's had for her entire life. She's only recently started to open up to me about what goes on and what she sees, and how frustrated she is because she doesn't know what to do to make it better.

    I've done enough research and seen enough programs to know that spirits are more attracted to people with these types of powers. However this isn't anything that either of us find "fascinating" and want to talk to someone who might help her be normal, or help us understand how to better deal with this.

    Im not psychic myself in any way, but I've experienced some of the same odd behavior that other people describe. I however am not used to it, and frankly am not amused at all. We talk sometimes about taking our relationship further, but we'd both like it to just be the two of us, not the two of us plus nightly company.

    I won't start going into detail about what she describes to me and what I myself have experienced because its irrelevant. It's all the same stuff you have heard over and over again. So if anybody has any information or rescorces that can help, we would really, really appreciate it. Thanks.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 06:22 PM
    martinizing2

    The term psychic has many definitions, without knowing what branch you claim it is impossible to do much.
    Is it seeing the future? Reading minds? A spirit medium? Or what? Without details, I don't know how to advise you.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 06:28 PM
    KISS

    Totally agree.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 06:35 PM
    kingajsucks

    I apoligize for any confusion, but I think I mentioned that there were spirits being attracted to her. There's no future prediction or fortune telling involved.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 06:54 PM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    I apoligize for any confusion, but I think I mentioned that there were spirits being attracted to her. Theres no future prediction or fortune telling involved.

    That is still not much to try and form an opinion as to even what is it you are asking. Seeking help is mentioned. But help in stopping it, understanding it , or trying to make it stronger.

    I have personally seen and experienced too much to discount anything. But information is necessary or the advice will be weak or useless.

    I assure you I will not ridicule or you or just brush your concerns off.

    The idea of this site is to offer help.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 07:15 PM
    KansasCity

    This is just my opinion, OK? The bible has a lot to say on the subject of spirits, since it's the best selling book of all time you might want to take a look. According to Gods Holy word all spirits who distrub you or torment you are evil and should be taken very seriously,and according to what I have read, they are allowed on people for various reasons, unforgiveness seems to be a big one. I would call around to a few churches and see what they tell you but more than likely this will take more action than just wishing them away.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 07:23 PM
    kingajsucks

    I understand, but I thought I was pretty clear in my initial posting without going into entertaining ghost stories.

    But yes, we are seeking help in possibly stopping it all together. She doesn't want to be able to see or hear the entities or appiritions anymore. I've never been one to just jump to a conclusion, so let me just say (again, without going into spooky stories) that I believe what she is describing because even though I don't see the activity in its entirety as she does, I've seen and heard enough to know there is no logic that can explain it away.

    So other than calling 1-800-Psychic, we don't know where to look for help or information.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 07:29 PM
    kingajsucks

    Were were both raised Catholic, but you can't exactly call us "devoted" Catholics. However, the thought has crossed my mind. It's just I'd like to know exactly what to say when we go. "Ghosts follow her. Make them go away..." won't really be a convincing or even concerning angle.

    And as far as "unforgiveness" goes, she's had this since she was a little girl. What she could be unforgiven for, I could not imagine.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 07:39 PM
    kingajsucks

    Martinizing, is there a way to continue this through email? If Im going to have to go into fine detail, I'd rather not post it up for all to see. I don't exactly feel awesome talking about all this, you know?
  • Jul 28, 2010, 08:59 PM
    martinizing2

    I am not clear on the policy here. Give me time to be sure .
  • Jul 28, 2010, 10:20 PM
    Hexxie

    Dear Kingajsucks,

    I can sympathize with you not wanting to go into detail. Unfortunately, Martinizing2 is right. Without knowing more about the situation it is hard to know in what direction to steer you. For example, I might not advise someone with audible abilities the same as I would someone with sentient abilities. There are also other things to consider such as to what extent, location, duration, to name a few. Perhaps you can elaborate without going into intimate detail? Me, personally, I need more information before I can help you out.

    Good luck to you and your girlfriend.
  • Jul 28, 2010, 11:01 PM
    Alty

    Sadly I don't have any advice or help to offer. I really wish I did, and I can only wish you and your girlfriend the best.

    I'm posting to let you know that asking someone to continue a discussion offline is against the rules of this site. There are many reasons for this, one is that posting all the info here can and will help someone else looking for similar advice. Another point is that private conversations cannot be monitored for accuracy.

    PM's on this site (private messages) are for chatting, to let people know about a thread they may have missed, for friendly back and forth. It is not to be used to offer advice.

    I hope you understand and again, I wish you the best of luck.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 12:20 AM
    martinizing2

    Thank you for the clarification .
  • Jul 29, 2010, 12:22 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by martinizing2 View Post
    Thank you for the clarification .

    No problem. :)
  • Jul 29, 2010, 12:26 AM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    Martinizing, is there a way to continue this through email? If Im going to have to go into fine detail, I'd rather not post it up for all to see. I dont exactly feel awesome talking about all this, you know?

    I understand the hesitation . I have had experiences I would be more than cautious to tell to anyone anywhere.

    But the people here are here to help and not ridicule or belittle people asking for help.
    There may be some with different ideas that can be of help.

    I would encourage you to go on but of course the decision is yours.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 12:31 AM
    Alty

    I also want to mention that you're completely anonymous here. No one knows who you are, unless you plan to tell them, and we strongly advise against that and even delete personal info when it's posted, to protect our posters.

    That's the beauty of being on a site like this. You can tell your story, without fear of it being linked to your personal life.

    The choice is yours, just want you to know that you can be upfront and honest here, and I believe that there are people here that can help you with this issue, but sadly, they need more details in order to help. That's often the way it is before we can give advice.

    I hope you come back. If not, I wish you all the best.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 12:43 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I also want to mention that you're completely anonymous here. No one knows who you are, unless you plan to tell them, and we strongly advise against that and even delete personal info when it's posted, to protect our posters.

    That's the beauty of being on a site like this. You can tell your story, without fear of it being linked to your personal life.

    The choice is yours, just want you to know that you can be upfront and honest here, and I believe that there are people here that can help you with this issue, but sadly, they need more details in order to help. That's often the way it is before we can give advice.

    I hope you come back. If not, I wish you all the best.

    I just wanted to add/clarify something...

    And, that would be that, true, you can be totally anonymous here. However, if someone knows your user name and it's the same user name that you've used for other sites where other people know who you really are, then I would suggest being very careful about what you post here because this site gets excellent exposure on the Internet.

    Thanks!
  • Jul 29, 2010, 01:26 AM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    Were were both raised Catholic, but you can't exactly call us "devoted" Catholics. However, the thought has crossed my mind. It's just I'd like to know exactly what to say when we go. "Ghosts follow her. Make them go away..." wont really be a convincing or even concerning angle.

    And as far as "unforgiveness" goes, shes had this since she was a little girl. What she could be unforgiven for, I could not imagine.

    Since this was posted I will at least go on from here.

    I think asking someone at your church is a great idea. Since the Catholic church still have exorcists (as an example) they obviously take these matters seriously.
    It could give you a different perspective and be of great value.

    I would tell them straightforwardly , you feel that spirits or some form of entity has been interfering in your life and causing problems. And you are there to ask for opinions and help.

    This may be a start to figure this out. And I know these can take a lot of figuring out.


    Please get back and continue , I think you can find some answers here of at least some things to do to to find a starting place.

    I wish you well and may God help you choose the best way to find what you seek.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 05:30 AM
    kingajsucks

    I appreciate the feedback. But Im not sure exactly what kind of details it is that people want me to post. Be specific. The fact that nobody has even asked a specific question as to what "information" Im missing makes me that much more suspicious.

    Im here for help or advice. If you can, if you know, if you have the heart, then tell me what you know.

    To the ones who have already given an opinion, thank you. Its all I ask.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 05:42 AM
    martinizing2

    Well it is hard to figure out exactly what is happening .Without some detail. You said it is irrelevant but it doesn't seem that way from my perspective.

    What does your girlfriend see?
    What have you experienced ?
    Has it seemed to want to do you harm?
    Are there any beneficial sides to this?
  • Jul 29, 2010, 05:50 AM
    kingajsucks

    I missed Hexxies post. Ok, without going into too much detail...

    Extent, well that's hard to describe literally. Apparitions, voices, mood swings, sickness, and that's just on top of whatever happens indoors. Nothing violent, at least not yet.

    Location doesn't matter because they follow, or maybe new ones in another location attract, I don't know.

    Duration, I can only imagine because of what I recently found out to be called a "hijacking". And that one is what concerns me the most.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 05:59 AM
    kingajsucks

    Martini, I pretty much answered this just now except for the "beneficial sides". And of that, there are none. We want it to go away if possible. You might be right, church is probably the first step. I personally am agnostic, so is my girl from what she tells me. But obviously something is happening that should not, so that counts for something. I don't know...
  • Jul 29, 2010, 06:15 AM
    martinizing2

    I believe I understand now to a better extent.
    IF... I am correct then the experiences are getting more frequent and increasing in length.

    More powerful apparitions or the same ones grow stronger.

    Hijacking being that control is diminishing or lost to an unknown.

    There does seem to be a pattern of progression in similar experiences reported by others. Some seem to have clear intent of control .

    What are your feelings about talking to a priest? Maybe a blessing would ease her mind at least. And he may offer some suggestions,

    I do know they often require a psychological evaluation before they will do much.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 06:32 AM
    kingajsucks

    Well, that's kind of what I've read from other peoples experiences. The church won't give you the time of day if you don't go in proving up and down that you are a devotee. What are we going to do going in and telling them we're agnostic. I won't lie, I seriously doubt she will either.

    That's why I posted this. I thought maybe (and believe me, I shudder to use the term) a "proffessional psychic" would have their opinion. I appreciate the advice though.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 06:35 AM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    Martini, I pretty much answered this just now exept for the "beneficial sides". And of that, there are none. We want it to go away if possible. You might be right, church is probably the first step. I personally am agnostic, so is my girl from what she tells me. But obviously something is happening that should not, so that counts for something. I dont know...

    From what I have seen and what I have read, the belief was not an issue. Atheists Agnostic, Muslim whatever.
    The knowledge and faith of those "around" is a factor.
    It cannot hurt.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 06:40 AM
    martinizing2

    I have not encountered the devotee aspect. People were helped regardless. May depend on which church is picked.

    99.999% of "Professional Psychics " are money grubbing swindlers. Who know how to swindle and put on a show that's all.

    But a placebo can set the mind to do what needs to be done sometimes.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 06:52 AM
    kingajsucks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by martinizing2 View Post
    I have not encountered the devotee aspect. People were helped regardless. May depend on which church is picked.

    99.999% of "Professional Psychics " are money grubbing swindlers. Who know how to swindle and put on a show that's all.

    But a placebo can set the mind to do what needs to be done sometimes.

    You're right. That's why I don't want to go to someone who's going to tell me fortune cookie stories. Im sure there's legit psychics out there. At least I believe there has to be now.

    As far as "placebos" go, do you mean the church? Because from what I've heard that's exactly what happens. It's OK for a little bit, then it just comes back like a quake.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 06:57 AM
    martinizing2

    The mind has the power to stop and/or start things like this.
    It is finding the faith in yourself to believe you have the power to stop it that will stop it.
    I do believe in God and believe that we all possess the power to do anything . A thimble full of hope is enough to move mountains.
    I believe that when you honestly seek God you will find Him

    Can't hurt to ask for His help.

    I wish you well. I hope you find the help you need . Look where you haven't looked for something new.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 07:06 AM
    kingajsucks

    Something I guess we're going to have to keep in mind because we're all out of ideas. It's not all that far fetched anymore I think... And that's a bold statement coming from me... Thanks though, lets see how that goes...
  • Jul 29, 2010, 07:17 AM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    Youre right. Thats why I dont want to go to someone whos going to tell me fortune cookie stories. Im sure theres legit psychics out there. At least I beleive there has to be now.

    As far as "placebos" go, do you mean the church? Because from what I've heard thats exactly what happens. It's ok for a little bit, then it just comes back like a quake.

    I will not talk about some things I have seen and experienced. It is unbelievable.

    Nothing can come back unless you allow it
    . The power is in you, me, everyone.

    Believing is the way to unlock it
    . If you believe because of a church ceremony , or words of a "holy man" make you believe then you begin to understand.

    God is in us all. When you seek God you will find Him in yourself. There is the power if you have the faith.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 07:21 AM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    Something I guess we're going to have to keep in mind because we're all out of ideas. It's not all that far fetched anymore I think... And thats a bold statement comming from me... Thanks though, lets see how that goes...

    I know what you are going through.

    I hope you find what you need. Please keep us informed .

    Keep looking and I hope to God you find it.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 02:15 PM
    kingajsucks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by martinizing2 View Post
    I know what you are going through.

    I hope you find what you need. Please keep us informed .

    Keep looking and I hope to God you find it.

    I will post if something seems to make it better or if I have a specific question. Thank you for your input. Hopefully it also helps others who like me have a hard time talking about it...
  • Jul 29, 2010, 04:20 PM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    I will post if something seems to make it better or if I have a specific question. Thank you for your input. Hopefully it also helps others who like me have a hard time talking about it...

    Post frequent updates.. writing about what you do can help you sort it out.
    Or
    Anytime you feel the need to talk
    I know how hard it is.

    I believe you will succeed . You are honestly searching. Keep your mind open.

    Question everything
  • Jul 29, 2010, 04:24 PM
    Alty

    Kingajsucks, I hope you come back and keep us posted.

    Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

    I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(

    When I first came to this site I came to ask one little question. When I got my answer, I thought, okay, no need to return. Months went by, then I got an email that someone had responded. I came, read, started browsing through the site, and I've been here ever since.

    The group of people on this site are the best people I've never met. I was weary, scared to trust people on the evil entity known as "the internet", but these people are the best. The advice they give, the amount of caring that they have, they never cease to amaze me in everything they do.

    Please keep us posted on how things are going. When we reach out to people, we invest a little of ourselves in them, we worry, we think about how things are going.

    Who knows, maybe you'll browse through the site too, see some questions you can answer, help others, pay it forward. :)

    I hope so.

    Take care. I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out. Wish I could be more help in this. Hey, if you have any questions about bunnies, I'm your girl. ;)
  • Jul 29, 2010, 04:38 PM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Kingajsucks, I hope you come back and keep us posted.

    Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

    I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(

    When I first came to this site I came to ask one little question. When I got my answer, I thought, okay, no need to return. Months went by, then I got an email that someone had responded. I came, read, started browsing through the site, and I've been here ever since.

    The group of people on this site are the best people I've never met. I was weary, scared to trust people on the evil entity known as "the internet", but these people are the best. The advice they give, the amount of caring that they have, they never cease to amaze me in everything they do.

    Please keep us posted on how things are going. When we reach out to people, we invest a little of ourselves in them, we worry, we think about how things are going.

    Who knows, maybe you'll browse through the site too, see some questions you can answer, help others, pay it forward. :)

    I hope so.

    Take care. I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out. Wish I could be more help in this. Hey, if you have any questions about bunnies, I'm your girl. ;)

    You,among others, on this site have a gift of knowing what to say and how to say it. Awesome.
  • Jul 29, 2010, 04:41 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by martinizing2 View Post
    You,among others, on this site have a gift of knowing what to say and how to say it. Awesome.

    :o Thanks Martin. :o
  • Jul 30, 2010, 02:31 AM
    kingajsucks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Kingajsucks, I hope you come back and keep us posted.

    Like I said before, I can't help you with this problem, but I too believe that psychics exist. I believe that the power lies in all of us, some just naturally harness it, but most of us don't understand or won't accept that it exists.

    I've had experiences as well, but they are few and far between, always involve the death of loved ones. So far I'm always 100% accurate, which I really hate. I've predicted the date of every loved one that's passed on. I've only been off once, and that was with my dad. I was off by an hour. I wish I had been wrong altogether. :(

    When I first came to this site I came to ask one little question. When I got my answer, I thought, okay, no need to return. Months went by, then I got an email that someone had responded. I came, read, started browsing through the site, and I've been here ever since.

    The group of people on this site are the best people I've never met. I was weary, scared to trust people on the evil entity known as "the internet", but these people are the best. The advice they give, the amount of caring that they have, they never cease to amaze me in everything they do.

    Please keep us posted on how things are going. When we reach out to people, we invest a little of ourselves in them, we worry, we think about how things are going.

    Who knows, maybe you'll browse through the site too, see some questions you can answer, help others, pay it forward. :)

    I hope so.

    Take care. I wish you all the best, and I hope things work out. Wish I could be more help in this. Hey, if you have any questions about bunnies, I'm your girl. ;)

    Thanks Altenweg. It looks like you have it too, or at least a version of it so that means something. But as far as it being in us all, I seriously hope you are wrong about that. I've been hearing bumps and moans at my place too and Im hoping like crazy that something didn't follow me, or us here or whatever. At the same time that's where my own logic kicks in and says NOW Im just being paranoid. I try not to pay attention. I refuse to believe, at least in my home.
  • Jul 30, 2010, 02:39 AM
    martinizing2

    This couple here I worry about because I know what they face.
    I hope for an update soon.

    Anyone believing in prayer ,sending positive energy, directing vibration for strength and healing, or what ever can be done to help another could give it some practice directed at these two. They will need the strength .
  • Jul 30, 2010, 03:04 AM
    kingajsucks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by martinizing2 View Post
    This couple here I worry about because I know what they face.
    I hope for an update soon.

    Anyone believing in prayer ,sending positive energy, directing vibration for strength and healing, or what ever can be done to help another could give it some practice directed at these two. They will need the strength .

    Martini, that was comforting. Thank you.

    But if you must please direct most of it towards her. She needs it most. Maybe just a little towards me, whatever is left... (probably not the time for humor, but what can you really do... )

    Now Im wondering what you yourself went through, and if you would want to share some of it. You don't have to go into any specifics.
  • Jul 30, 2010, 05:02 AM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kingajsucks View Post
    Martini, that was comforting. Thank you.

    But if you must please direct most of it towards her. She needs it most. Maybe just alittle towards me, whatever is left... (probably not the time for humor, but what can you really do...)

    Now Im wondering what you yourself went through, and if you would want to share some of it. You dont have to go into any specifics.

    Because of what you and your lady are facing I feel compelled to relate a few details of some things I was witness to and part of that happened several years ago.

    Before I do I am going to have to take some time to sort out how I intend to go about this. It will not be a quick or easy task , I know you understand what I mean.

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