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During the last year I kept stumbling upon information regarding 2012, more specifically the 21st of December 2012 (12/21/12) and have become very interested in what the ancient Mayans knew surrounding this upcoming event for Earth and the Uinverse and the Universal beings here awaiting this event.
Anyone here know about/learning about/interedted in/waiting for 2012? Just curious...
For the conspiracy nuts, it is the date that the government "time machine" made using results from the Philadlphia experiments can not get past and show clear results.
It is the date of a possible UFO invasion by the UFO beleivers in some circles ( related also to the believed dimensional travel done in the above experiment who related it to another dimension instead of time travel.
The Mayan calendar cycles and all cycles end on that date, thus showing that all things are completed.
I still have plenty of time to make my sign to go down down with
* repent the end is near** perhaps I can do a internet sign instead.
I remember reading about this a number of years ago. The Mayans (who correctly predicted the end of their own society) were superb mathematicians and astronomers. If memory serves me correctly you are quite right about the 2012 date given by Mayan calculation to mark the end of the world. However, as a keen scientist or at least someone with a scientific mind I am in doubt in two areas.
1. Mayan calendars differ a vast amount to our own date system of which we have had two over the last 1000 years (Georgian and Julian), calculations between these systems has many compounded variables so a date of 2012 could as easily be 2012+/- 10-100
2. Since archaeologists are merely 'interpreting' the Mayan data the meaning for 'end' may well not mean 'end' as we see it. Much in the same way that the death card in the tarot actually means change rather than death.
Simple really the Mayans forgot to buy the Extended version of their calandar and all you have to do is turn ot over and start again.
Obviously nobody told Uncle Bill, as my outlook calendar goes passed this date! At least if it's the end of the world I can save on Christmas presents that year. Hmm why save? Everyone can have a Porsche/Ferrari/Lambourghini... on the credit card!
Haha. I'm glad you can all make light of this.
Actually, as Wickedimp said, the ancient mayans were great mathematicians and astronomers. To this date their calendar is the only one that has never errored. If you read what is written in the many different places it is written about, this event is sometimes referred to as the 'rapture' by the christians (though no date is given for that), 'the end times' by metaphysicians/new agey types, and going even deeper down the rabbit hole there is all sorts of Universal theories (and yes, regarding 'alien' life).
I'm more interested in the spiritual outlook on the matter. I was hoping to get a response from some starseeds (if there are any on this forum).
Who knows what will ACTUALLY happen on 12-21-12. Maybe nothing at all. Or maybe something wonderful. Or maybe it will be the 'end' of the world as you know it. Though, I don't think it will be END of the world in a literal sense. But who knows. I was just interested in finding others who share common interests. Sorry if I busted anyone's bubble in posting this.
Pixie, bear in mind how many times we have lived through the "end of the world" already with no ill effect, making light is about the best response.
Hey If the Mayans are right then I'll be the first to admit I was wrong ;)
Well perhaps the world really ended at 2000 and we just don't realise it.
2012 is the year WalMart takes over the world to become our new form of Globalist dictatorship. That old guy at the door will implant a chip in your forehead and when you checkout, you bow down and swipe your noggin over the reader on the counter... directly in front of a statue of George W. Bush with Devil horns.
WHAT?
No, but seriously folks, 2012 is the year that the Watchers return to guide all of humanity to truth... well, their truth anyway. When that happens, Christ has no choice but to step in and destroy them.
I have been very interested in this predicton also and read up on it many years ago but unfortunately have forgotten most of it. From what I remember the mayans say there are five cycles and each one has ended in some sort of catastrophe. We are now in the 5th cycle, and the mayan calendar or fifth cycle is set to end on December 21st 2012. That day is also a winter solstice, and I believe that the planets are set to align that day as well. Nobody knows how the mayans knew this back then but I believe the mayans knew much more back then than we do now, but anywayz... Also, I heard somewhere that the mayan calendar was actually slightly more accurate than the calendar we use today.
Further research into known asteroid paths for the year 2012 charts earth's nearest encounter with one object coming as close as 0.27AU (25098089.7 miles) to give you a little comparison our own moon is 0.00256955214AU (238855 miles) distant.
In conclusion the 'threat', if any, is terrestrial or unknown extra-terrestrial in nature.
I bet the Mayans came through the Stargate that's how they knew so much...
PixieMama,Quote:
Originally Posted by PixieMama
There are a lot of theories on this. The Mayans weren't the only ones who mentioned 2012, 'seers' from many societies gave that date as a big one. There are a lot of book out on the subject, like "The Disappearance of the Universe" and some specifically titled 2012, which you can find at Barnes & Noble. Everyone has their own ideas about what 2012 will entail, if anything, which is why I haven't really studied it. I've heard some people say that those who 'need' an apocalypse will have it.
My own gut feeling is that there will be a major consciousness shift, similar to the Harmonic Convergence of 1987. (Google that, and check out Harmonic Convergence: Information from Answers.com ). I'm hoping the world, as a whole, will become slightly more enlightened. If it doesn't, it doesn't, but there's always hope. I also think that if it happens, Indigos will play a big part in that!
I looked at my calendar and it ends 12/31/07 the end is near everyone panic!! :)
I like the idea of quantum immortality - it's like the many worlds hypothesis in quantum mechanics. That every single decision or alternate event creates a different world in which that decision was made differently. If you die in a number of worlds due to a guy shooting you, there will be a subset of worlds in which you don't die. These worlds are the only worlds you continue to observe because they're the only worlds that you are conscious in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Maybe many of the worlds ended in 2000 for whatever reason, and we are living in the small subset of worlds that didn't end. The main problem with the theory is that it's totally unprovable until you die... which in this interpretation will never happen.
As for the 2012 thing... Why would you make a calender more than 1000 years into the future? My calender ends on the 31st December 2007, that doesn't mean the world is going to end.
Are you actually proposing that they would have made an INFINITE CALENDER that covers every single day for the entirity of existence?
There's 2 reasons the calender ends on that day:
1. End of the world, so no point writing further dates
2. Kind of got bored writing down all the dates 1000 years in the future
I know which is more likely.
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Here is something that's kind of off topic but related to the subject
I don't want to offend anyone by mentioning this,
When you add 11 to 2001 you get 2012
2001 + 11 = 2012
I'm not going to explain what's significant about
The number 11 and the year 2001 out of respect
It might not be armageddon
But I have a really bad feeling that something really bad might happen on 2012
Not because of the mayan calender,
But because there were to many coincidences about september 11th
and 2012 would be the perfect coincidence
And there is a whole lot of people that want to see something really bad happen to the U.S.
Lets face it, the united states have pissed off a lot of countries
Anyway,
My opinion is that I may or may not happen
I think that it is people's decisions that make prophecies come true
Mabey the fate of the world will all come down to a decision
A war will go on forever until one side gives up or one side is totally annihilated
I really hope obama get's voted in...
It's like if you could go back to before george bush was ever voted in,
You totally would have voted for Al Gore I hope
The Julian Calendar is not based on anything astronomical - surely you should be using something like the lunar calendar for numerology?Quote:
Originally Posted by ABurningMan
Fight fight fight I don't know it looks like a bunch of dumb people trying to prove there fact they don't know
12/21/2012 is the date my driver's license expires (really!). As I recall there's a pretty good Wikipedia article about the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar. It's a base twenty number system with a certain number of digits that starts at 0000001 and ends at 999999. Kind of like the odometer in your car. The car doesn't explode just because the odometer rolls over to zero again.
Correct. But there are very view vehicles that will be able to end a full roll of 999.999 Miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alder
The car will have "exploded" long before :)
:rolleyes:
According to me, this is a stupid believe... Actually I would like to see the end of this world.. If there is going to be a doomsday I think many animals can feel it, as they are close to nature than us.. but as we can see there is no such sudden change in behavior of animals.. So I think its just another conspiracy..
Tell that to the polar bears. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vinoth6456
Animals might only know if the end is natural and there response may be only a few hours or days ahead of time certainly not years
Some people think that it will be the biggest event since humans started speaking- although not nessacarly the end of the world. I was thinking someone should oraganise something strange like everyone all around the world should walk outside naked at the same time or something.
Global warming?Quote:
Originally Posted by vinoth6456
1+2=23 2+3=23 20+(1+2)=23!! WOW just like that movie with Jim Carey!
If the Mayans could predict the day that all the planets align to the exact date with no teleccopes,, that in itself is amazing. I wonder if they really are going to align.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beachgrl
They're not. It is the winter solstice though, so perhaps that's what they meant. (Interestingly, the winter solstice occurs at 1111UT in 2012, for all you nuts who want to hang some significance on that number. Perhaps this is why the person before said this was when it was going to end, although they had no clue why).Quote:
Originally Posted by jrwild62
Me and my mates were talking about that.. we said that it was 12/12/12 and one of my mates said '' we ether all die or that we will all be blessed to see the living and the dead'' that's his opinion, mine is, live life the way u want, if we die or whatever then, then sh*t happens ''whats for you will not go by you''
EDIT: http://www.msghelp.net/showthread.php?tid=74463
Ok Hacker, If you could explain that in 3 words or less, go 4 it. UMMMM, I don't know know...Quote:
Originally Posted by mackythehacker
It's actually 12-21-12.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrwild62
I livee in a country where mayans lived.. and believe me they said things that never happened..
Maybe 2012 is just a common year!
Explain that in 3 words or less?Quote:
Originally Posted by jrwild62
Read The site :cool: :p
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Interesting indeed.
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I've read all of your responses and I can't help but to laugh a little bit. So many superstitious people or non believers. To each his own I suppose.
I am one of those superstitious weirdos. I pray when a black cat walks in front of me, I don't like seeing ladders leaning on buildings and I freak when someone spills salt, I also happen to believe very much in the Mayan calender. I respect their amazing culture, and I think they were a lot more knowledgeable then, then we are now, about future events. I'm really not sure I have even decide what to believe will happen on 12-21-12. There are so many prophecies and explanations, but I do not think it will be the end of the world. More like, the end of the world as we know it now, hopefully this means a better one will begin, because I don't see how it could possibly get any worse then it is now.
Anyway, check out this sit. My grandfather writes it all and he's kind of... eccentric.
2012 A.D.
Laugh a "little" if you like. I'll tell you though, I don't think mankind is going to have a major leap in anything. I believe the entire planet will be taken over and controlled by the Fascist elitist that secretly control it now and have for many, many years. There are some of us that are speaking out about their strangle hold on the illusion of money and power. Speaking out because we have been fighting their wars and testing their latest greatest weapons of mass destruction on those less fortunate for many, many years.
For the most part though, the majority of people want to be ruled. They want to live under the false assumption that they are free when in fact, everything is really tightly controlled and always has been. Now, there are just too many unnessesary eaters and breeders to handle effectively. 2012 will be the year they take care of that problem.
This ain't going to be good. The New Age Woo Woo's tell you it will be all nice and warm and fuzzy but that is all part of the plan. Like a thief in the night.
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