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I too feel it would help to have the information requested.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingajsucks
And when trying anything results can never be guaranteed . Another good reason to be armed with as much information as possible.
If you could possibly get the answers please do.
I will be back in about 2 hours but have to run right now
That's one amazing story. Thank you for sharing that with me, well, all of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by martinizing2
This is probably going to sound typical, but I used to watch a lot of the cable TV show "A Haunting" (back before I even met my girlfriend). I don't know how acurate they were about the stories, or if any of them were even factual because I never bothered to do any research on them. It was just a good TV show I liked to watch. But there was a bit of prestige with the documentation on that show (or it seemed to me at least), so I took it as factual.
Anyway, in many of the hauntings they went into, the family or people involved would resort to requesting a priest to come out and do his blessing. But one constant was that after the blessing the activity would cease for a period (usually a few months), and then it would come back. But when it came back it was heavier than when it stopped.
My question is if the Warrens ever toutched on this type of haunting and what it would mean if the activity did in fact come back? Also, being that it seems to be my girlfriend who the spirits are drawn to and not the house, would a priests blessing work in the same way?
I know Ive taken up a lot of your time and energy Martini, and I can't say enough how thankfull I am.
Absolutely. And Im ashamed to say that I was with her last night, but I didn't have the heart to bring up the subject. We were having such a good time and I didn't want to spoil the moment. But I don't want to keep you all hanging when its me asking for your help, so it will be sooner rather than later. Count on it...Quote:
Originally Posted by martinizing2
Hi OP I thank you for the reply to my other post here, Ive now read through this thread and if I may I would like to ask you a few questions Please, These being:
You say its mostly your g/f, was or is she an only child?
Have you or any other independent adult actually seen evidence that your g/f is actually possessed? I mean you say its mostly when she is alseep, have you watched her when she sleeps recorded her, anything like this.
Have her parents told you of anything that supports this?
Has your g/f been seen by any professional body i.e. pyschiatrist or psychologist, has she or is she being counselled?
You say you were having a good time last night, so can you re read my first post to you, Please.
You say you do not wish to risk taking my advice in earlier post, I ask you do you want to succumb to any unwanted spirits or whatever, because by not wanting to anger them you're succumbing to them.
If your g/f is possessed then expect them to fight to regain a hold over her body.
Apart from a literal exorcism, you can help yourselves, spirits or whatever cannot occupy a positive thinkers body or anywhere near one, they need negative to feed off and maintain their hold over anything they choose to reside in, by being positive by smiling laughing thinking happy thoughts and such by not allowing them to have any hold they will disappear, obviously not permanently, but for a sufficient length of time for whoever to find professional help.
I also have a theory for what's happening ,
All young children have imaginary friends, I think perhaps your g/f also had them, with her mostly being effected at night, have you considered she has nightmares perhaps.
The sprinkling of holy water, is a myth or fallacy then it's the person who claims to be possessed reaction because of the myth in question, you could test this by getting a bottle of ordinary tap water and let your g/f think its holy water, and sprinkle it around her check her reaction to it.
Holy water is tap water that's so say been blessed. Priests are mere men with no ability to effect divination over anything earthly water included. If the water comes from Lourdes it may be different, but none is really holy water. I find it odd that it was your g/f herself who sprinkled it.
Also a person any person can be convinced they're possessed by their mind and only the mind, its not real yet they think it is. A negative oriented person can very easily think themselves into being possessed for a number of reasons attention being the main one.
The power of suggestion can produce many things.
Have you considered asking a priest or member of the clergy to visit your g/f home and perform a blessing of the house and contents including your g/f be there yourself, to witness anything unusual.
What's happening could very easily be a product of your g/f over active imagination, all in her mind in other words the mind is powerful and can produce anything we imagine to appearing as real.
Whether real or imagined your g/f needs some professional help, immediately. Without any she will or could then conjure up happenings indefinitely. Or for as long as she wants and they will or can appear very real but self inflicted.
This is more especially done with a person who has a split personality or MPD. It is also possible in a person with just their own personality, depending on how much of an attention seeker the person is or wants to be.
The possibility of this being a product of your g/f mind cannot be ruled out and should indeed be investigated before all other avenues of possibility are looked into. If she is an only child then the possibilities of it being of her own making are even more likely. Her subconscious does what its programmed to do. Childhood trauma can be very damaging in adulthood.
If not a psychiatrist a hypnotist would be beneficial.
JMO. Pp
Find the root cause and you'll solve the problem.
Psychics you'll find lots of information on this site that may help you.
OP I am not wishing to put doubt on your g/f integrity just that you need to be aware of the mind being capable of many things.
Well, like I told Martini, I can only answer what I know for sure and the rest I will find time to ask her very soon when were in a good situation to talk about this. I will post up everything she's willing to answer about your questions as well as Martini's asap (most likely in one posting, but I'll notify you if I post it under his reply)...Quote:
Originally Posted by positiveparent
So as of now I can tell you that she was not an only child.
As far as possessions go, she's not that. But from the research Ive done from what she's described to me, she has been "hijacked" before. She has had instances where other people in the house have physically seen her walking around and acting strange, then later she would have no recollection of it. That brings me to the increased activity when sleeping...
This is not something she herself told me, this is just a therory of my own based on what she has told me, and what I myself have experienced while I was over her house. Aside from strange dreams (if you want me to ask her to detail the different types of dreams let me know) and such, she's told me about having the sensation of something trying to enter her body while in bed, and also waking up to dark shadows over her bed.
Im used to being up late for work, so sometimes she will fall asleep and I'll be awake for a while longer, and it seems to me that when she is sleeping (or falling asleep) that all those unusual things start to happen.
Now I haven't physically seen what she see's, at least not yet. And that's fine with me, I don't want to. But all the noises and whatnot that probably shouldn't be happening start to happen.
I remember a couple of times when I first started sleeping over I would hear the sound of a door that wouldn't open so easily being forced open. I thought someone had broken into the house. I would wake her up and ask if she was expecting anyone, she would say "no" and seemed very unconcerned, like its nothing out of the ordinary. So like a dodo there I go sneeking through the house with my pocket knife only to find nothing and no one. It doesn't end there, that's just an example of what seems to start when she goes to sleep. Things falling over, the TV getting strange loud bursts of interference, constant loud furniture cracking, just to name a few more. I know most of these can be explained away. Coincidence... maybe.
As far as her having psychiactric issues, I can't blame you for bringing that up. Personally, I don't think that's the problem, but you're right in the sense that it should probably be ruled out.
Well, thank you for your help. Like I said I will post soon...
At this stage nothing is ruled out or in.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingajsucks
And the more you know the greater your strength will be.
It would be helpful if she really opened up , I can understand the reluctance .But you are not always awarded the luxury of dealing with some things in a manner you find comfortable.
But you can tell her this from me: She is lucky to have you. You obviously care a great deal for her to do what you are doing. I have seen some that turn and run...
We will keep at it as long as it takes.
Well we finally talked and I asked her anything I could remember from the questions people wanted to know. I will post it tomorrow (or later today, its 1:30 am), I just need to figure out how Im going to iturpret all the scribbles from my notes. I will most likely post it under Hexxie's response because of what she said, but obviously it's there for anyone with input or help.Quote:
Originally Posted by martinizing2
And Martini, thanks for that last part, but believe me Im not in any way brave when it comes to this. I feel like a coward every time Im there constantly trying to distract my own mind. Do I care, yes. More than anything. This is just so new to me first hand.
It doesn't matter under who's post. As long as iot in this thread. Any post here notifies me for sure and most likely PP and Hex.
If you do something that does not scare you bravery is not involved.
It's doing it when you are scared that requires bravery.
I'll be looking for you in the AM
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Originally Posted by martinizing2
Martin,
I wanted to give you a greenie, but I have to spread some reputation around first. (My first time getting that error, not sure how long that takes, but I hope it won't be long for I agree with most of what you have said.)
To the OP,
Take your time so that you can post something you feel comfortable with. I too have seen people turn & run the other way. Fear is a powerful motivator. But love, love will conquer it. Look at you, you are scared, but still you face it. Why? not only because you are brave, but because of love. To quote Martin: "She is lucky to have you."
Namaste, my friend. I await your post.
Like I said I asked as much as I could remember and she answered as much as she could until she got uncomfortable, but we'll get to that at the end. Sorry I couldn't make this any neater, but I wanted to post it as soon as I could not to further delay progress. Ok, here goes nothing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hexxie
First, let me just get the psychiactric question out of the way. About a year ago she told her doctor about sudden bouts of anger, agrivation, and anxiety and she was referred to a psychologist for a few sessions. The doctor concluded that the symptoms were due to stress and deemed the therapy unnecessary. That's the only time she's been evaluated by a doctor of that type.
Like I mentioned she has had experiences since she was a little girl. She said the earliest that she remembers is around age 3 or 4 when she says a tall, grey appirition with glowing eyes would visit her. She would call it a "monster". All through childhood, and after moving out as an adult, she has had different seemingly unrelated experiences in every house she has ever lived in. She also said and gave examples of how other people begin to see and hear things while being around her. I asked if her parents ever brought up the subject to her and she went on to explain how they were very traditional catholics and they were reluctant to talk too much about this type of thing. She did however tell me about an experience her mom had had.
Experiences, in her opinion, seem to lessen or increase in accordance to her mood. Mostly increasing when frustrated, angry or in a calm point, and decreasing or non existent when content, upbeat or distracted (busy). She would say experiences were most likely to happen when she was alone, but thinks this is due to not being distracted by anything. As far as the loudness or quietness of the environment, it leans towards quiet for increased activity.
She went on to describe what she see's and said that sometimes it could be a fully formed person, and sometimes it would manifest itself before her eyes. She said it starts by seeing "flashes of color" (this is how she knows what's comming), then a shape gradually forming until it resembles a human shape. It usually only lasts a few minutes then disappears.
She also mentioned that at times she, and sometimes others around her, can smell either a strong scent of sulfer or a strong scent of roses.
The appiritions, she says, make her uncomfortable, but she's been seeing them her whole life so they don't necessarily frighten her. But she admits that the hijackings and the sensations of being "pulled out" of her body do terrify her. She went on to tell me about how after the first time she found out about them her and a friend who was there at the time went out to a local shop where a man sold her a set of three candles with pictures on them (one white, one black, and one possibly red, she doesn't remember the last color) that were supposed to "clean out the house of negativity". While she says they didn't make things worse like the time she spread holy water around, they didn't make things any better either.
Finally, the last thing I asked her was if she's positive that she wants this to stop all together (she had told me so before), and this is where there was a bit of indecision. She tried to explain to me the best that she could. She went on about how she doesn't see any benefit in this ability and how it just makes her and others around her uncomfortable. But then went on to say that sometimes like when she's hijacked she wants it to go away, but other times she doesn't. I tried to get her to try and explain further, but the first thing I told her was that if at any point she began to feel uncomfortable we would stop. So true to my word, we did. After all I made her go through a lot of memories she probably hasn't thought about in a long time.
I can only speculate as to why she would be unsure of what she really wants to do about this. Maybe she wants to keep the good, but not the bad. Maybe she's had it so long that its just become a part of her. I don't know, and I guess you would have to have that kind of power to truly understand.
Well, that's all I got for now. I told her about some of what you all have posted here, including PP's posting about possible psychiactric issues, and she thought they were all valid points and questions. If you have any more questions that might be crutial do not hesitate to ask. We will try and make time to answer what she can. Thank you all, and we're looking forward to what you have to say.
I've been following this thread and I'm going out on a weak limb here. A medical possibility is migraine aura without headache.
See Silent Migraine
So unless there is some tangible evidence, this could be a medical explanation. The entire episode is manufactured by the mind, a bit like dreaming.
Mr or Ms Kiss, I looked into your link. Like anything else, I take everything into account. Thank you for your help and consideration. All I can say is I hope you never. I know you mean well, but you're just doing what I set out to discard at the beginning of this thread. You would'nt understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by KISS
Believe me, I do understand. KISS is a.k.a. KeepItSimpleStupid. I had to change my user name because it was too long.
Without everything on the table, no matter how absurd or improbabable it will all help. I never said it was Silent Migraine. Some aspects fit.
Yes, I have abilities too, somewhat like Alty with deaths. I also have the ability to communicate via telepathy with the right people. I have two extra senses and I have learned not to ignore the sixth one. I know I was linked to other relatives. When they left this earth, my powers decreased. I knew exactly when they left earth.
I would like to get those powers back full strength, but presently there are too many distractions to be able to make that happen
Warning: Don't hastilly discount things no matter how absurd. Have an open mid to things that don't fit 100%.
I agree with KISS, don't rule anything out, the mind is a very powerful thing.
However on reading the OPs last post I think your g/f my be the subject of Alien abduction, and the image you described being that of a Grey.
2 images attached ask your g/f if they look familiar Please.
I am a bit surprised that she is unclear as to if she wants to get rid of this or not. But that was due to speculating her input.
From this point I would say the ball is in her court as to which way to proceed.
I don't think it is a pick to keep some and get rid of others .
And I feel she has to be more committed and certain of what she wants.
Some time to think may be what is called for, until she makes a decision seeing as she is central in all this.
We'll all be here waiting for whatever more there is to add or discuss that may help in any way.
Stay positive and encourage her to do the same.
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Originally Posted by kingajsucks
Based on what you have told us, I believe your g/f is an intuit. Granted there are a few things going on, but all are side effects. Think of it this way, she is a beacon to any "energies" that may be in the vicinity. The problem lies in her not understanding what this is and her not knowing how to control it. Right now, it controls her. It comes down to the greatest energy wins.
I have to agree with Martin's last post: the ball is in her court.
Perhaps time to think it over is exactly what she needs right now.
After all, all of our good intentions can not help her if she is not willing to accept them.
And no, it is not a pick.
Stay positive and peace be with you.
I appreciate all of your help. I don't want you all to feel like this was all for nothing. I'm not sure exactly what's going on right now, but maybe some more time is in order. Please don't forget, because I might need your same help in the near future. Sorry for the stalemate.
I don't think it was a stalemate. We all learned something from each other and about each other. That's a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingajsucks
We have eliminated a lot of preliminaries should we need to proceed , and I believe some trust established.
It is best in some situations not to proceed until you are fully committed to what you are about to do.
We will be here in the near future if needed, and hopefully in the not so near future also.
I wish you well.
Hi my name is unimportant I'm 13 years old and you say that your girlfriend is seeing things I see them to I hear them get touched by them and I also have visions that scare me everything scares me the spirits everything I just started seeing more of the spirits when I turned 13 and ha I am 13 I was seeing to many I got really scared but all you have to do is say leave me alone your incharge not them they've had there time its your turn if you want to be alone tell them don't let them no your afraid or they'll keep coming back. And its really nice to know that you believe her and trust her its really hard to find someone who believes trust me I know oh just one more thing usually when a spirit comes it wants help to cross over but she needs to do it not you she's having the problems but if she's to scared to help them stick with the first thing it will help GOOD LUCK!
Its not an alien it's a spirit she needs psychic help
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