I get it.
Everyone is not a sensitive.

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Originally Posted by Sodium

Well Artlady, i dont think people will ever understand what you say until you support it with whatever happened to you, or else it just doesnt make sense to them
I have played with a ouija Board, and im not sure if it was working or not? because no one said they were moving it, and it did move, but i have doubts and i am not sure if any of my friends playing moved it.
So I think this game is mostly just a game.
nothing else really

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I started to tell my story but I'm not.

Not saying you have to tell it,
Im saying most people won't understand unless they do hear an actual story from someone who has had bad experience, otherwise, its just nonsense

Bottom line.I'm not telling anybody anything. I know bad crap happened..
I have a problem talking about this nasty oh yeah... the game

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Originally Posted by tickle

There are procedures to follow when calling up spirits and these are in place to protect the person from harm. Therefore, if these are not followed, then it is entirely dangerous to pursue the mechanization of a ouija board.

However, one can always put cards down A to Z and numbers l to 0 and use up side down water glasses as the vehicle.

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Where does one get a procedure handbook for calling up spirits? Can anyone do it? Even those that are heavily laden with logic, realism, and reason?
Why would a board, or cards, or water glasses be a vehicle anymore than a pillow, a rock, or a basketball? What makes those things vehicles? And,how do you number something from 1 to zero? What are the mechanization of a ouija board? It is a cardboard with numbers and letters printed on paper that covers that board? How mechanical is that? I'm just still looking for solid answers and I keep getting fluff.

Earlier, someone ask me how to prove that it is NOT real. I stated that the burden of proof always lies on the person making the assertion. No proof has been offered.

I could say, Abe Lincoln just sat down and had coffee with me and expect people to "buy
that " because I asserted it. It is totally no different than spirits appearing before you and causing terrible things to happen to you. Do they speak to you too? In English? Who do they sound like? It's just so unbelievable.

I know people who have had bad experiences but as it didn't happen to me personally and I wasn't in the room I can only assume they don't lie. BUT, why take the chance play scrabble instead :p Oh and when we had our confirmation at about 11-12 yrs old there were girls who did the ouiji board and weren't allowed to be confirmed for a further year and had to go to mass every day to make amends-the catholic church take everything seriously!

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Originally Posted by Peacekelsey

The luck was for you being able to see things in life a little less logical and perhaps you can find some magic in life. Life isn't as black and white as you seem to make it. Everything is an illusion and is perceived differently with every individual....

The Ouija board isn't something that I use. But have heard of others using it. Who are we to say that it doesn't work...just b/c it hasn't worked for you in the past (perhaps b/c you went into it with a closed mind) doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

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There are many many areas where I apply gray, as opposed to black and white. People accuse me of being too gray about subjects all the time. I'm known for thinking outside the box, being open minded, being tolerant, all that stuff, REALLY.;) I know you are :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: rolling them by now, but that's okay. It doesn't bother me at all. One thing I am not accused of is being gullible. Tinkering with dead people over a cardboard square is a little too "out there" even for me. Maybe it does not work for me because I don't "have an open mind toward it". If people think it is dangerous, then I suggest you take my closed mind approach and the spirits will not even think of bothering you.

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Originally Posted by Irishgirl

I know people who have had bad experiences but as it didn't happen to me personally and I wasn't in the room I can only assume they don't lie. BUT, why take the chance play scrabble instead :p Oh and when we had our confirmation at about 11-12 yrs old there were girls who did the ouiji board and weren't allowed to be confirmed for a further year and had to go to mass every day to make amends-the catholic church take everything seriously!!

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Catholics, that's a whole new thread. What if they sat around a scrabble board and summomd the spirits? Is it the particular board you use that matters or what you say, believe, feel, or just play around with. Do you think those girls would have to wait a year, go to mass everyday, and make amends to the church if they sat around a camp fire and told ghost stories? So much nonsense.

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Originally Posted by artlady

YouTube - Ziggy Marley - Love Is My Religion

I sing this song all the time!!

Check it out!

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That is a nice song. I like it too.:)

Cokyz Take a chillpill,I was only saying my experience with them, besides all them things you think you are you should also add defensive! Also I've never seen oxegen but I know it's there!

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Originally Posted by salamander5

are ouija boards safe?

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Hello sal:

Hell no. Not at all.

I was sitting with my date, the other night, pushing the thing around spelling out how much she secretly wanted to make love to me..

Then she hit me over the head with that damn ouija board.

excon

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Originally Posted by Irishgirl

Cokyz Take a chillpill,I was only saying my experience with them, besides all them things you think you are you should also add defensive!! Also I've never seen oxegen but I know its there!!

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Instead of defensive I think the word should be disgusted. I just can't seem to get over the fact that people actually put any store in these silly things. Like how you could even entertain that thought for a minute. I do need to chill out, let me try here. Huuuuummmm...
I think my disgust is that STILL no one has given any thing concrete and even the writings I find on the net are just as shallow.

As far as oxygen, you can define it. You can see it when it's dirty as in smog, it has a chemical make-up, and the elements that make up air can be seen in different forms. You can certainly tell when it's not there. THEN you know the presence or absence of oxygen.

Excon you make me laugh;)

Cozyk - OK that's your opinion and nobody can change it - until I send my old dead aunt to visit you tonight ooohhh - if your chatting to her by the way ask her what she did with the ring I liked we can't find it :(

You sound like your very dismissive of other peoples opinions though? Just cause you don't believe in something doesn't mean its not true. Also lots of people have had dealings with "the supernatural" and you saying that its basically a loads of cr@p is quite rude to people who have had these experiences

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Cozyk - ok thats your opinion and nobody can change it - until I send my old dead aunt to visit you tonight ooohhh - if your chatting to her by the way ask her what she did with the ring I liked we can't find it

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Am I to understand that you could use a Ouija board to summon your dead aunt and send her somewhere?

Chill lax that's what you call sarcasm!!

O wf a cool ia!

I really don't mind that artlady doesn't want to divulge her paranormal experience, and I don't know why some people within this posting are having a problem with that.

I don't talk about some of mine, and they have been a few in the last 40 years. I have always known I am that way inclined, but when it happens it is entirely unexpected, a complete surprise and nothing has been unpleasant. I guess I just channel good spirits.

I don't know, whatever, who knows what it is, lapses in memory, remembering a dream but I think I have mentioned before that I had a wonderful experience right after my mom passed away She didn't speak to me for a few days before she passed, was always asking for me, not knowing I was there. Bothered me immensely after she had gone. Then I had a dream and everything was clear, a happy occurrence where there were no words spoken, just hugs. I woke up feeling released, no longer in limbo about how my mom felt.

There you go, the feeing remains after all this time. A visitation in a dream, the only way she could come back to me. Who knows. Paranormal experiences can happen in so many different ways. That experience didn't exactly make me a believer, but incidents still happen to me. Could be my scottish highland roots, a very superstitious people, very gaelic.

Tick

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Excon you make me laugh;)

Cozyk - ok thats your opinion and nobody can change it - until I send my old dead aunt to visit you tonight ooohhh - if your chatting to her by the way ask her what she did with the ring I liked we can't find it :(

You sound like your very dismissive of other peoples opinions tho? just cause you don't believe in something doesn't mean its not true. Also lots of people have had dealings with "the supernatural" and you saying that its basically a loads of cr@p is quite rude to people who have had these experiences

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I know, I do sound very rude don't I? I'm not usually this rude and I apologize but you hit the nail on the head. I do think it is a load of cr@p and I don't know how to convey that in a nice way. Plus, I haven't heard anything solid, so I can only continue believing that. Sorry:(

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I don't know, whatever, who knows what it is, lapses in memory, remembering a dream but I think I have mentioned before that I had a wonderful experience right after my mom passed away She didn't speak to me for a few days before she passed, was always asking for me, not knowing I was there. Bothered me immensely after she had gone. Then I had a dream and everything was clear, a happy occurrence where there were no words spoken, just hugs. I woke up feeling released, no longer in limbo about how my mom felt.

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I totally believe this about your mother. That makes perfect sense. Her energy never dies and it spoke to you in a private manner that was just between you two because of the love you have for each other. Being spooked by someone over a summons at a game with a board is just absurdity.

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There you go, the feeing remains after all this time. A visitation in a dream, the only way she could come back to me. Who knows. Paranormal experiences can happen in so many different ways. That experience didn't exactly make me a believer, but incidents still happen to me. Could be my scottish highland roots, a very superstitious people, very gaelic.

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We are from a scottish background too, but so far, no super natural stuff going down.
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Originally Posted by cozyk

There are many many areas where I apply gray, as opposed to black and white. People accuse me of being too gray about subjects all the time. I'm known for thinking outside the box, being open minded, being tolerant, all that stuff, REALLY.;) I know you are :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: rolling them by now, but that's okay. It doesn't bother me at all. One thing I am not accused of is being gullible. Tinkering with dead people over a cardboard square is a little too "out there" even for me. Maybe it does not work for me because I don't "have an open mind toward it". If people think it is dangerous, then I suggest you take my closed mind approach and the spirits will not even think of bothering you.

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Lol.. just saw this. I think everyone is capable of talking to spirits if they wish. Not all, wish. You're extremely knowledgeable and I like that! Sometimes, you just have to accept things that can't be proved as true, if you don't wish to, that's entirely fine as well. But just because you don't believe in spirits or ouija boards doesn't mean they are reality to others. ;)

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello sal:

Hell no. Not at all.

I was sitting with my date, the other night, pushing the thing around spelling out how much she secretly wanted to make love to me..

Then she hit me over the head with that damn ouija board.

excon

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OMG that is the best answer yet! HAHA

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Originally Posted by Peacekelsey

. . . just b/c you don't believe in spirits or ouija boards doesn't mean they are reality to others. ;)

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I agree. ;)

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Originally Posted by cozyk

I totally believe this about your mother. That makes perfect sence. Her energy never dies and it spoke to you in a private manner that was just between you two because of the love you have for each other. Being spooked by someone over a summons at a game with a board is just absurdity.



We are from a scottish background too, but so far, no super natural stuff going down.
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Cozyk- So I'm getting from you that you do believe in spirits.. from you saying that energy never dies... which is our souls... and some do remain earth bound therefore this is what we call 'ghosts' or 'spirits'. So really, you're just saying you don't believe in ouija boards because it's primarily used and marketed as a game... I understand you now completely. But, I do feel that 'sensitives' can make contact. Not everyone. I've never made contact... but have heard of many who could.

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Cozyk- So I'm getting from you that you do believe in spirits.. from you saying that energy never dies... which is our souls... and some do remain earth bound therefore this is what we call 'ghosts' or 'spirits'. So really, you're just saying you don't believe in ouija boards because it's primarily used and marketed as a game... I understand you now completely. But, I do feel that 'sensitives' can make contact. Not everyone. I've never made contact... but have heard of many who could.

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Right, I believe that people you had a connection with in this life can contact you by way of dreams, or just thoughts or feelings that enter your heart or head. They may even leave signs. I don't think they have to remain "earthbound" to do it. Earth is just an illusion when you are a spirit, not a place any more than you go to a "place" when your human experience is done.

I don't think spirits are just hanging out waiting to be called on in a séance or ouija board game. Just waiting on someone to pull out the old Milton Bradley so they can come on board (no pun intended) and reek havoc because their souls are not at peace or whatever. I don't believe they literally appear before us in their old bodies or some ghost buster image. I don't believe they try to scare us by blowing out candles without a breesz, or make doors slam, or mess with you physically.

I believe in soul to soul connections. I think James Prague has something real going on. That Sylvia Browne comes off as a total kook to me. When she was on Montel every Wed. she could give definitive absolute answers to 100% of the questions ask of her. Not 99.9% but 100%. And the people just ate it up. "When am I going to meet my true love?"
She'd say something like, "next April, and his name will be John". And they would be like, "oh thank you very much Sylvia!". Why does someone not ask her who killed Jon Benet Ramsey or where Natalie Holloway is. I wonder if she would still be answering with 100% certainty. It made me lose all respect for Montel and his gullible audience members.

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Right, I believe that people you had a connection with in this life can contact you by way of dreams, or just thoughts or feelings that enter your heart or head. They may even leave signs. I don't think they have to remain "earthbound" to do it. Earth is just an illusion when you are a spirit, not a place any more than you go to a "place" when your human experience is done. I don't think spirits are just hanging out waiting to be called on in a séance or ouija board game. Just waiting on someone to pull out the old Milton Bradley so they can come on board (no pun intended) and reek havoc because their souls are not at peace or whatever. I don't believe they literally appear before us in their old bodies or some ghost buster image. I don't believe they try to scare us by blowing out candles without a breesz, or make doors slam, or mess with you physically.I believe in soul to soul connections.

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I can understand that. I believe a bit differently, but we think much alike. ;) I believe that most spirits go back to wherever our starting place is... and can contact us like you said through soul to soul but also believe they can do things around the house (such as blow out candles) . I also believe that those spirits are coming to check on us and to let us know that everything will be OK, and that we're loved.

However, I believe that there are many spirits that remain earthbound. Not waiting to be discovered, but because they don't yet know they're dead, or have unfinished business and don't want to go. They also say many won't go "to the light" because they're afraid of "judgment day." Many of these spirits died tragically, and never really had that time of acceptance.

I also believe that all people have the ability to be psychic and/or a medium... I mean there is a huge percent of our brain that we don't use... why don't we have more than 6 senses and why would only certain people have those abilities but not all. After saying that, I do not believe that ALL medium/psychics are real. :eek: I know, what a shock! But yea, many of them are complete fakes like you said and just are there for the fame and fortune. A true medium is out there to genuinely help others contact there loved ones.

Because something did not happen to you ,whoever you are ,you can not say with any conviction it did not happen to someone else.

Who is bringing up a tread from February?

Hello Peace:

Well, if you're tired of getting that, you're really going to be tired of getting this.

excon

Well aren't you a pleasant person. Just can't wrap my mind around why an 'expert' would be so crude. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

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Well aren't you a pleasant person. Just can't wrap my mind around why an 'expert' would be so crude. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

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And I'd like to know why a new person on the board would be so rude to an expert - particularly an expert who has posted so many times.

And, by the way - until you're a moderator you get to choose when a thread is closed.. and/or when you get bored with the answers.

Please read the rules of the site.

I didn't feel that was that rude. Ok lets gang up on me now.

Also I'm not new to this board.. I haven't been here since Feb. You know, when we STOPPED talking about this. I don't need this from you guys. I've done nothing wrong. Please remember you're experts and are to set an example...

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Also I'm not new to this board..I haven't been here since Feb. You know, when we STOPPED talking about this. I don't need this from you guys. I've done nothing wrong. Please remember you're experts and are to set an example.....

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You did the attacking - I still find your comment to Excon ("Well aren't you a pleasant person. Just can't wrap my mind around why an 'expert' would be so crude. But whatever helps you sleep at night.") to be remarkably rude... and unnecessary, whether you're an "old timer" with 34 posts to your credit or not.

I didn't realize experts are "here" to set an example. I thought we were here because for one reason or another we are experts, here to give advice.

I don't attempt to control the board. I don't think you should either - but, just like Cozyk has an opinion, so do I.

Well I am here and do have the authority to first close this silly thread that should not have been re-opened anyway

And second to give a warning to peace for her rude behavior

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