Ask Me Help Desk - Advertisement options with commercial cleaning

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Should I make a proposal for the building i do not want to clean???
Just in case they say it is required to submit for all three properties?

Yes, since you were not able to discuss this with them. Usually they want you too bid all listed areas. It is to their advantage as they deem that they should get better pricing with all three bldgs... 'volume dictates pricing.'

If you do not bid it, you may not be considered at all... and will be eliminated from the process.

I know that the bldg is in a bad area... but you should be able to do it... it is only one or two days per week after all, not 7 days/week.

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

UNder the charges section of the contract... i see that you put a section about carpet cleaning...
i have not offered these services( or have a industrial machine) yet to them nor they have asked...
Should i still keep that in there?
Same thing for the window cleaning?

I would say this: 'Carpet cleaning is available.' ' Window cleaning is available'. That's all. You can farm out this service and the windows also. Get a price from a carpet cleaning company and mark it up 15 -20%. If she presses you on a price NOW... tell her $ .18 sq ft. That is competitively a little high, if she questions it tell her that is a 'ballpark figure---wall to wall cleaning. Then get a price from a professional. His price may be high (that is why I quoted higher to cover you) because there really isn't a lot of carpet involved. Again, volume dictates price.

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Alright I will email them over to you!
They do have information pertaining to my potential client.....
I trust that you will look it over
...
I hope not to hear tomorrow that i lost to stringer on the bids.... hehe

That my friend could be taken as an insult, by now I would have guessed that you would have seen me as not that kind of person.

Trust me, I do not go after small jobs.

Again, I suggest that you remove any pertinent customer information and put it on here... please. We covered this Clean... unless it contains personal or vital customer info it should be put on here... please.

All right so let me get this straight..

Only say " Carpet Cleaning and Window Cleaning is Available"

Oh nononono Stringe ri did not mean to insult you

I was just joking around

I apologize if I offended you...

I think I would be considered small time hehe

I was just messin!

You want me to post "your" contract I made on here?

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Alright so let me get this straight..

Only say " Carpet Cleaning and Window Cleaning is Available"

Yep. 'Carpet cleaning, Hard floor refinishing and window cleaning are available upon request.'

You want to be all and everything to your client, it gives you more work and profit and do you really want a carpet guy that you don't know in there and he does cleaning also... get it?

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

You want me to post "your" contract i made on here?

No, that is 'classified', that you need to email me, but any correspondence pretending to it should be on here.

On one of the proposals for the executive suite...
I have to include two offices within it...
Where should I specify the offices and duties of each office..
Trash vacuum and dusting...

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Oh nononono Stringe ri did not mean to insult you

I was just joking around

i apologize if i offended you...

i think i would be considered small time hehe

i was just messin!

I am trying to help you with information that you would usually gain after much pain and possible financial loss. So that you would not have to 'pay this price.' I would never back stab anyone intentionally, that is a truism. Without integrity, one would definitely eventually fail in business, in my humble opinion.

Now that is not to say that some networking isn't possible. You are not large enough and probably not have or be able to secure the financing necessary to do a large job/s. (I am assuming here) However, you are able to take on small and medium sized jobs. We occasionally come across smaller jobs that we do not take, nor do we look for them anymore.. but we do sometimes have people call us. You may hear of or know of a job that is larger (starting at about 25,000 sq ft up wards to over 500,000 sq ft), I would appreciate you letting me know. AND if it became a contract, I would give you a one time 10% commission of the first month's payment, that could be as high as $1,500.00 or more...

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

On one of the proposals for the executive suite....
i have to include two offices within it...
where should i specify the offices and duties of each office...?
trash vacuum and dusting...

Show it under the heading of that building as a sub title... (In bold) 'two suites... numbered 1234 and 5678... ' then list the specs for those two offices.

Stringer,
I would be honored to refer your company to any large sized job I come across..
I don't know you but by the good works you do just on this site I know you are a good person and I have been thanking god almost every day for him putting me in your path to help me!

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Stringer,
I would be honored to refer your company to any large sized job I come across..
I dont know you but by the good works you do just on this site I know you are a good person and I have been thanking god almost every day for him putting me in your path to help me!

Thank you sir.

How close are you to being able to email me what you have put together on the proposal form that I sent you?

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Originally Posted by Stringer

Show it under the heading of that building as a sub title....(In bold) 'two suites.....numbered 1234 and 5678....' then list the specs for those two offices.

Where should I list the specs ? Under house keeping specs?

I just emailed you three of them.. what I got

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

where should i list the specs ? under house keeping specs?

Yes, there is a space for this under Housekeeping... : "(Put your specifications here)"

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

I just emailed you three of them..what i got

I am going now to look, be right back...

All right! Let me know what you think :0

How's it coming along my friend?

I got a few more questions for u hehe

Under the fields Invoicing to occur by the first?
What would I put in that field..
Also for the final price I offer...
Am I going to write that in or type that in?

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Hows it coming along my friend?

I got a few more questions for u hehe

Under the fields Invoicing to occur by the first??
what would i put in that field..?
also for the final price I offer...
am I going to write that in or type that in?

Determine your invoicing methods, example; net 30 days

You must remember... always be professional, always type, never pencil in something. If you and the prospect make changes in pen or pencil, then take it and retype it for her.

All right so net 30 days...
Means payment every month..?
Also in the contract where does it state when it ends or termination or something like that?
Did I over look it?

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

Alright so net 30 days...
means payment every month..??
Also in the contract where does it state when it ends or termination or something like that?
did i over look it?

Be prepared, commercial cleaning is different in many ways...

'Net 30' means that; you work the month, then invoice for that month and they have 30 days from the date of your invoice to pay. In this economy, some are taking 60 days to pay from invoice date... :mad: So initially, from the first day that you work it will be approximately 60 days before you are paid for that first month. Then once that starts you will get a check each month for the previous month's work... Then if you should ever lose the contract, say on a dtae like July 31st... you would get a check for that last month 30 days later, August 30th.

Clean... let's keep moving forward please on completing the information that you need to finish these proposals.

I believe that you have all you need to format each proposal (Like I said my system; Windows 2007 XP Professional) will not let me edit anything that you send me. But I think that I have given you all you need, you will need to crunch the work...

Can we now get to the pricing... K?

Yes that is fine...

I will just say net 30.. lets move forward with pricing...
I know you have full day tomorrow and so do I
So lets finish this up!

OK did you see the posting from last night I posted with all sq footage and areas and duties...

The only property that was not included was the one I did not want to do and it was the glenwood.. common office restroom and hallway... 970 Sq ft

I must keep in mind that I am going up against 3 other companies and a "cindys Cleaning" which I am assuming is a ma and pa company..
And keep in mind the special breed prop manager said they are taking best price... which I know ma and pa's like to do often

Ok so property one...
Commercial Cleaning Outlines for Proposals
Once a week Cleaning
Contract Proposal #1
Network Building
___________________________________
Total Cleanable Sq footage = 2,902Sq Feet
Tile Sq Footage = 1,584 Sq ft
Carpeted Area = 1,318 Sq ft
___________________________________
Bathrooms in Building = 4
Elevators = 1
Stairways = 2
Entrances = 1 main , 1 side
Levels= 2 floors
________________________________________
Duties
1) Vacuuming and mopping all floors carpet and tile
2) Clean inside glass of entrances of building when needed
3)Empty Trash in Bathrooms and near water fountain
4)Remove Carpet Spots when if/needed(spotting)
5) All Ceramic Residual Tiles Dust Mopped and Wet Mopped
6)Clean and Polish Drinking Fountains(2)+Elevator(1)
7) Clean Washrooms on 1st and 2nd floors (4)

I rember you saying .16 per sq foot would be competitive for a 5 days a week job... but since this is less should I go more

U there stringer *Ring Ring*

Hi, Guys!

It looks like the two of you have been busy!

Ahhh Yes we have been! How are you clough hehe
Stringer has been a blessing andhas helped me piece this together..
He has disappeared though!!
We awe just about to do the pricing...
I hope he comes back
:-)

How was your weekend my friend

I'm sure that he'll be back, eventually. He usually lets people know when he needs to go...

Weekend has gone pretty good! My new church job is going really well!

How was your's?

I have to return a phone call to someone momentarily. I just wanted to let you know.

Thanks!

Stringerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Were so close!
I have done all th modifications you told me to do...
Only thing is the ending of the contract and that clause you were speaking of!

Oh that is fine...
What are you doing for the church?
May I ask
Which type of church you belong to?

Ok... Now here is my disclaimer again my friend...

I will give you my suggestions for you to price your bid to clean these buildings however, you and you alone will determine that final price, that is only your decision.

Most property management company managers always push the price to clean down, it is their job, it is their goal, no matter what they may say, this is a fact. Keep this in mind. Value added selling will help but it will come down to; can you do the job and what is the lowest price to do this work? I have been there with them for too many years, we do not even pursue work with P. M.'s anymore.

Now, please keep in mind Clean, that I am making my suggesting without all the information that I usually gather, I have not seen nor have I been in these buildings. There are many other considerations; density:... a lot of people (a lot of desks, trash, washroom usage, etc), a lot of extra mess.

Are these Class A, B or C buildings? (A building being the Taj Mahal, India).

Usually, even in a good economy, in my opinion, if there is a LOT of sq ft and 5 to 6 days work per week... the price per sq ft is as low as $.06 to $.07 per sq ft... volume remember.

(Example: 500,000 sq ft X $.06 per sq ft = $30,000.00 per month)

Clean, please understand that I don't say this to lessen the importance of the job, but it is a fact that influences the pricing. However, this job is one to two days per week and less sq footage.

The pricing I listed above is for a full time large job, so actually for this work I suggest that your price per square foot is more for several reasons;

Minimum sq footage...

One or two days per week cleaning means that all this dirt, trash, dust, grim, etc. will build up all week. That day that you clean there WILL be much more in those trash cans, etc.

I am going to suggest a price per square foot that you may use and take times the sq ft for each job, each day...

For example; ( I am tired and I didn't go back to get the exact sq ft for each of these jobs, so I am using hypothetical figures.)

Job number 1: $.15 to $.17 per sq ft, two days per week, with a total square footage, including washrooms, kitchens... everything that is cleanable... 2,500 sq ft total...

2,500 sq ft X $.15 = $375.00 per each time that you clean this space.

Here is how you accurately figure your monthly price;

Take the total number of days you will clean this 2/day/week job times 52 (weeks in a year) or 104 days annually.

Take that 104 days times my suggested figure for the 2,500 sq ft ($375.00) = $39,000.00 annually. Divide this by 12 (months) =
$3,250.00 billed each month for this 2,550 sq ft building (This is only an example Clean, as how to figure a similar job, not using your exact sq ft figures or number of days per week specifically)

Summary;

Take the sq ft for the area, take that X the price per sq ft, that gives you the total price to clean that space... each time.

If it is more than one time per week, then that that total $$$ figure X the total number of days you clean in that week. Arrive at a total weekly price, take that X 52 (weeks in a year) and arrive at an annual total $$$$, then divide that by twelve (months in a year) and you arrive at an accurate monthly price. This is necessary because of the two extra weeks in the year and that can add up annually, believe me. Actually those two weeks in this case amount to $750.00 annually.

Now I am rethinking this, I just remembered that you said that there would probably be a 'whore' bidder correct?

Honestly Clean, I, myself would probably use $ .09 per square foot to calculate this job and the other two or three...

But I would use the formula I suggested above...

Very tired, hope that I was clear and you understand what I am saying her. If we do need to speak on this again tomorrow, I should be able to get back on about 3:30 pm... but that is late for you as you have to have this printed up, in a binder and delivered to them before 5 pm.

Stringer

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Originally Posted by Cleaningman23

oh that is fine...
What are you doing for the church?
may i ask
which type of church you belong to?

I know that you have had a conversation with Clough about church, but if you are speaking to me... I think that you mistook 'crunch' for 'church' in my post my friend... that is okay. I am a member of the First United Methodist Church, have been for over 35 years.

Ok I am somewhat understanding what you said...
So bare with me I know you are tired...
One of my buildings is 5010 Sq Ft.
So
for a weekly price
I would do 5010 Sq Ft X .09 = $450.90 then times it by 52

Hehe bare with me I am reading your post over and over at the moment trying to understand...

The 450.90 would be my monthly charge correct?

Summary;

Take the sq ft for the area, take that X the price per sq ft, that gives you the total price to clean that space... each time

DO YOU MEAN EACH WEEK OR EACH MONTH??