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  • Jun 7, 2009, 10:14 PM
    Cleaningman23

    That is OK..
    The china thing..
    Is importing good from china at very low prices and selling them here in USA
    For over 200% Markup
    It a very good business to invest in
    I just have invested for my first time in the past month...
    I put 4000 USD in and I am waiting still for my products...

    Once I receive them I have a potential of selling them for at least 15,000 USD

    My son is 9 months old at the moment...
    Sometimes when he eats bottle in the night he tends to spill it.. so we have to check on him frequently hehe
  • Jun 7, 2009, 10:18 PM
    Clough

    Is this extra business that you have, something that you could also advertise on the Internet for yourself?
  • Jun 7, 2009, 10:25 PM
    Cleaningman23

    This extra business that I have... I literally just started in the past month...
    I requested my EIN from the FED and just received it about 3 days ago...
    I am not hiring any employees but still I used it as a per cautionary measure...
    My order is coming in... in July...

    I am going to be using eBay and also creating my own website once my products are available... I am registering with Illinois dept of revenue...
    So all I really have to do is file 1099 and sales tax...
    But yes I can also sell on the internet...

    It is good thing to do... if you give me your email I can send you websites and you can search for products you think are "hott" in the US MArket...
  • Jun 7, 2009, 10:27 PM
    Clough

    What variety of products are available and since you've just started this, do you know if it's worth it?
  • Jun 7, 2009, 10:38 PM
    Cleaningman23

    It is totally worth it.. You really cannot lose any money...
    If worst came to worst you would sell them at the price you bought them for..
    Which would make you break even...
    I know a friend of the family that was importing horns for cars and other different motor vehicles... from china.. and he still makes profit from accounts that he has set up through harley davidson stores and other small time businesses...

    There is literally no way you can lose... in my opinion...
    Right now I am importing LED fountains and Oil electric lamps...
    I paid 3500 for my order for over 600 lamps and 100 fountains...

    There is any prodcut you can think of... ANYTHING
    If you want lol I will forward you the address to look at to guide you to china suppliers...
  • Jun 7, 2009, 10:48 PM
    Clough

    I'm sorry, Cleaningman23! I hated to do it, but I would hate to see this thread be closed by Administration because of the solicitation for off-site contact, so I needed to delete that last post of yours. I would hate to see all of our hard work on here wasted and also stopped in its tracks.

    Again, I'm sorry...
  • Jun 7, 2009, 11:06 PM
    Clough

    Okay!

    Now, that we've clarified some things, we can continue on with the original, intended purpose of this thread. And, that's about the advertising thing using the Internet for your cleaning business.

    But, it is getting late, and if you're going to do some cold-calling tomorrow (today), and if I'm going to get back to the job on the concrete at a decent hour, it would probably be best for both of us to be getting some sleep.

    Although, it is raining with a thunderstorm here right now. Is it raining where you are?

    Thanks!
  • Jun 7, 2009, 11:13 PM
    Cleaningman23

    Hehe it is not raining here yet!
    Although I am on the southside of chicago.. no storms at the moment...
    You are near Iowa correct?
    Im sure they are moving this way!

    Yes I agree with you about the sleep!
    My son tends to wake up around 6 even though I don't wake until 8 hehe so Im going to hit the hay..

    Thank You for all the help an support!
    Lets continue this tomorrow!
    I will let you know how the cold calling goes!

    God bless and Good night! :p
  • Jun 7, 2009, 11:18 PM
    Clough

    Yes, we can continue this tomorrow!

    Oh, how I remember the days of having young babies and children...

    I have two, a boy and a girl. They're both near the age of thirty.

    Yes, best to be putting out best feet forward for tomorrow by preparing ourselves the best!

    I might not get to work on the concrete. However, I do have a table lined up to refinish that I already did previously. The customer called me up and said that she ruined the finish that I put on it.

    Sheesh...

    Thank you for your understanding of how things are supposed to work here! It's much appreciated!

    God's Love and Peace to You!
  • Jun 7, 2009, 11:20 PM
    Clough

    Oops! Yes, I'm in Rock Island, IL which is on the Mississippi across from Iowa.

    Thanks!
  • Jun 9, 2009, 08:42 PM
    Cleaningman23

    Immmmmmmmmmm baccccccccccccccccck.
  • Jun 9, 2009, 08:45 PM
    Cleaningman23
    HI CLOUGH,
    STRINGER

    So I did some...
    COLD CALLING TODAY
    Hmmmmmmm lets see...

    Well I called about 8 different businesses today...
    All ranging from day care centers... to a few hair salons...
    Some kids places including "pump it up" and a few new places in my area...
    Not one single call did the person in charge of hiring the contracts for cleaning co... was able to come to the phone... they all took my number and name down.. but it looks like I'm going to have to do some follow up calls...

    Alsooooooo
    A few places said I have to call corporate... which I Did...

    How are you able to meet corporate standards to clean their business?

    Since I am smaller what kind of places should I be shooting for
  • Jun 9, 2009, 10:08 PM
    Clough
    Hi, Cleaningman23!

    What I understand to be cold-calling is to actually go and pay a visit in person to the places.

    I'm glad that you did make some attempts, though!

    What did you say to them? Perhaps we should also be working on your particular spiel with what you're telling them.

    Thanks!
  • Jun 9, 2009, 10:20 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Hi, Cleaningman23!

    What I understand to be cold-calling is to actually go and pay a visit in person to the places.

    I'm glad that you did make some attempts, though!

    What did you say to them? Perhaps we should also be working on your particular spiel with what you're telling them.

    Thanks!

    I agree Clough, cold calling for the most part is actually going to the site personally and usually you will get a name and number. Then follow up with a phone call. Most 'contacts will not see you on the initial call, because they are clobbered by sales people, you have to find a way to stand out. Using the telephone is OK, but you don't actually get to see the building.

    I think that you should be calling on building that range from 3,000 sq ft to possibly 5-8,000 sq ft at first.

    Stringer
  • Jun 9, 2009, 10:43 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Hi, Cleaningman23!

    What I understand to be cold-calling is to actually go and pay a visit in person to the places.

    I'm glad that you did make some attempts, though!

    What did you say to them? Perhaps we should also be working on your particular spiel with what you're telling them.

    Thanks!

    Clough, we need to get back on our project my friend... :)

    Goodnight for now...
  • Jun 9, 2009, 11:27 PM
    Clough
    Hi, Stringer!

    Yeah, I know that we do need to get back on the project...

    I've had to deal with some pretty heavy issues here. So, going to "work" on the Internet has been something that I've been avoiding doing. Have been wanting to use what I do on the Internet more for light things and entertainment.

    We will get back to it, though! You and I both want to make it the best that it can be!

    I have recently gotten some new business and lost some to. I think things should be picking up for me in the near future!

    Goodnight to you, too!

    Thanks!
  • Jun 10, 2009, 05:43 AM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Hi, Stringer!

    Yeah, I know that we do need to get back on the project...

    I've had to deal with some pretty heavy issues here. So, going to "work" on the Internet has been something that I've been avoiding doing. Have been wanting to use what I do on the Internet more for light things and entertainment.

    We will get back to it, though! You and I both want to make it the best that it can be!

    I have recently gotten some new business and lost some to. I think things should be picking up for me in the near future!

    Goodnight to you, too!

    Thanks!

    With you... no rush, when you're ready, I am also rather inundated now too, but we can do it when things slow a bit. -Stringer
  • Jun 10, 2009, 09:58 AM
    Cleaningman23

    STRINGER
    CLOUGH!
    God Has Answered my prayers!
    !!
    I received a call today from a property management company!
    They need a proposal by Monday to make a decision!
    3 offices...
    3 separate contracts
    All within 20 min driving distances...
    She is emailing me for info and I am going to look at the locations tomorrow!
    She also stated she needed me to supply the paper towel garbage bags and soaps...
    And carpet spotting...

    I am soooooooo happppppppppppy right now!
    Thank You for your guys help!
    Stringer and you too clough!!

    Stringer I will be needing your assistance tonight and tomorrow if you can.
    We have to pound some numbers hehe

    I really want to get these contracts! So if you can help I would greatly appreciate it...

    I will be getting more information...
    Thanks again guys!
  • Jun 10, 2009, 01:01 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    STRINGER
    CLOUGH!
    God Has Answered my prayers!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I received a call today from a property management company!
    They need a proposal by monday to make a decision!
    3 offices...
    3 separate contracts
    All within 20 min driving distances...
    She is emailing me for info and I am going to look at the locations tomorrow!
    She also stated she needed me to supply the paper towel garbage bags and soaps....
    and carpet spotting....

    I am soooooooo happppppppppppy right now !!
    Thank You for your guys help!
    Stringer and you too clough!!!

    Stringer I will be needing your assistance tonight and tomorrow if you can.!
    we have to pound some numbers hehe

    I really want to get these contracts! So if you can help I would greatly appreciate it...

    I will be getting more information ......
    Thanks again guys!

    I'll do what I can Clean... in the final go round pricing is your own decision though.

    Get the total 'cleanable sq ft'

    How many days per week?

    Any medical offices? What types of businesses? (Possibly it/they will generate a lot of paper/trash.. )

    How much carpet in each building? How much VCT? How much other hard floors?

    How many washrooms in each building?

    Are there coffee/lunch rooms in each, type of floors?

    Are you expected to clean out the refrigerators

    Do the buildings have key and or card entry?

    Are you bidding on the entire 3 buildings or just part of each (offices)?

    Get on a friendly basis with the person from the company and ask questions, any that you can think of; where is the outside dumpster? Is it secured by a lock? How many pick ups per week? Etc...

    Get all the information that you can... understand the job (period).

    AND... ask them that if you have a question, can you call him/her back?

    I do not like rushed bids... that's where a lot of mistakes happen, almost always...
  • Jun 10, 2009, 04:15 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    I'll do what I can Clean...in the final go round pricing is your own decision though.

    Get the total 'cleanable sq ft'

    How many days per week?

    Any medical offices? What types of businesses? (Possibly it/they will generate a lot of paper/trash...?)

    How much carpet in each building? How much VCT? How much other hard floors?

    How many washrooms in each building?

    Are there coffee/lunch rooms in each, type of floors?

    Are you expected to clean out the refrigerators

    Do the buildings have key and or card entry?

    Are you bidding on the entire 3 buildings or just part of each (offices)?

    Get on a friendly basis with the person from the company and ask questions, any that you can think of; where is the outside dumpster? is it secured by a lock? How many pick ups per week? Etc......

    Get all the information that you can....understand the job (period).

    AND....ask them that if you have a question, can you call him/her back?

    I do not like rushed bids...that's where a lot of mistakes happen, almost always....

    Ok Stringer,
    Here it is!!

    I called her back and she emailed me three proposal requests.. . I also have set up a time tomorrow to look at all three of the locations... so far these are the duties... (I HAVE NOT RECEIVED SQ FOOTAGE YET)

    FIRST PROPERTY

    IS A "TOWNCENTER"

    2 TIMES PER WEEK

    Vacuuming and mopping of floors and back stairwells
    Clean Entrance lobby clean all 4 restrooms on 1st floor..
    Empty trash containers
    Remove spots from all carpeted areas if applicable all ceramic tile and resilient folors dust mopped and wet mopped
    Clean and polish drinking fountain.


    ...

    Second Building Propsal

    "Executive Center"
    To perform cleaning services 1 time per week
    Vacuuming and moppping floors
    Clean entrance lobby
    Clean restrooms on first floor, second floor, and lower level
    Empty trash containers
    Remove spots from all carpeted areas
    All ceramic tile and resilient floor areas dust mopped and wet mopped
    Clean and polish drinking fountain and elevator

    To include 2 offices unit 2A and 2B
    ______ SAME BUILDING
    Second Proposals

    For cleaning two offices 2A and 2B 2 time per week





    ___________________________



    "Network Center"

    Please provide two proposals...


    Propoal for common building area...

    Vacuuming and mopping of floors and front and back stairwells
    Clean entrance lobby... ALL GLASS
    Clean All restrooms and 1st and 2nd floors
    Empty all trash
    Remove all spots form carpet if applicable
    All ceramis tile and resilient floor areas dust mopped and wet mopped
    Clean and polish drinking fountain .elevator door


    ______________same building suite... (office

    Vacuumin all offices
    Dust /wet mop reception area and kitchen
    Empty All trash
    Dusting of desks file cabinets and counter tops




    That's what I got so far... she Also said that I supply all the paper towel garbage bags and soap etc...

    They also want A copy of insurance... LICENSE(which is not required in my town for home offices), and BONDS?

    What should I do with the bonds?

    Should I go them or wait?? There's 10,000 bond and 20,000 bond right??



    AHHHHHHHH I am so excited:cool:
  • Jun 10, 2009, 04:22 PM
    Cleaningman23

    They also left a phone number on the proposal that was not mine
    I googled it and it came up to a
    CINDYS CLEANING SERVICE?
    SHOULD I ASK THE MNGT CO HOW MANY BIDDERS AM I GOING AGAINST?
  • Jun 10, 2009, 07:55 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    They also left a phone number on the proposal that wa snot mine
    i googled it and it came up to a
    CINDYS CLEANING SERVICE?
    SHOULD I ASK THE MNGT CO HOW MANY BIDDERS AM I GOING AGAINST?

    Yes, ask how many and who they are if they will tell you. I'm sure that with property mgrs there will be at least three including you.
  • Jun 10, 2009, 08:05 PM
    Cleaningman23

    Ok I will be asking tomorrow! Hey did you see what I type don the other page about the proposals they submitted to me...
  • Jun 10, 2009, 08:21 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    Ok Stringer,
    Here it is!!!!!

    I called her back and she emailed me three proposal requests. ..... I also have set up a time tomorrow to look at all three of the locations.... so far these are the duties.....(I HAVE NOT RECEIVED SQ FOOTAGE YET)

    FIRST PROPERTY

    IS A "TOWNCENTER"

    2 TIMES PER WEEK

    Vacuuming and mopping of floors and back stairwells
    clean Entrance lobby clean all 4 restrooms on 1st floor..
    Empty trash containers
    Remove spots from all carpeted areas if applicable all ceramic tile and resilient folors dust mopped and wet mopped
    clean and polish drinking fountain.


    ................................

    Second Building Propsal

    "Executive Center"
    To perform cleaning services 1 time per week
    vacuuming and moppping floors
    clean entrance lobby
    clean restrooms on first floor, second floor, and lower level
    empty trash containers
    remove spots from all carpeted areas
    all ceramic tile and resilient floor areas dust mopped and wet mopped
    clean and polish drinking fountain and elevator

    to include 2 offices unit 2A and 2B
    ______ SAME BUILDING
    Second Proposals

    for cleaning two offices 2A and 2B 2 time per week





    ___________________________



    "Network Center"

    Please provide two proposals....


    Propoal for common building area...

    Vacuuming and mopping of floors and front and back stairwells
    clean entrance lobby... ALL GLASS
    Clean All restrooms and 1st and 2nd floors
    empty all trash
    remove all spots form carpet if applicable
    all ceramis tile and resilient floor areas dust mopped and wet mopped
    clean and polish drinking fountain .elevator door


    ______________same building suite ...(office

    vacuumin all offices
    dust /wet mop reception area and kitchen
    Empty All trash
    Dusting of desks file cabinets and counter tops




    Thats what I got so far.... she Also said that I supply all the paper towel garbage bags and soap etc......

    They also want A copy of insurance... LICENSE(which is not required in my town for home offices), and BONDS??

    What should I do with the bonds?

    Should i go them or wait???? theres 10,000 bond and 20,000 bond right????



    AHHHHHHHH I am so excited:cool:

    1. If you get the job, when do you start?

    2. Do you have carpet cleaning responsibility? Do you have to strip/scrub and refinish the VCT? Are there any other floors (such as in the foyer/waiting area, ceramic tile)?

    3. Get total counts Clean... washrooms, coffee stations, lunchrooms, etc, FOR EACH BLDG.

    3. Do you have a source for the consumables? If not you could use Costco, Sam's, etc... cheaper and bulk. This is a tough one. I do not like having to provide these supplies as you have a very difficult time determining how much you need of everything. And you may try going to a jansan distributor for these items. But with this low volume now it may not be worth it, I would use Costco or Sam's.

    We really need the square footage Clean... that puts everything into perspective.

    The 'Network center" 3rd bldg... how many days per week?

    Get all your TOTALS on a per building basis first then total it all later, important.

    Do any of these offices have any private washrooms?

    I am going to try to scan and send you a questionnaire that we use to ask them some details... hope this works...

    We need more info clean, can't give a correct bid only on what we have...

    Stringer
  • Jun 10, 2009, 08:34 PM
    Cleaningman23

    The Property Management Contact Did not specify a start date...
    The proposals that she has submitted have nothing about stripping or waxing the vct...
    I will ask...
    I have a costco business membership.. I have also ordered at ULINE in the past... but find them expensive
    I also asked her the sq footage and she did not know...
    The network center building suite... is once a week...
    From the looks of the proposal.. (its the office of the property management co) that called me


    She also stated that I need to submit license, insurance and bond... Should I go buy bonds to submit with the proposals?

    I am meeting with the manager tomorrow and getting every perspective amount of information from floors to everything
  • Jun 10, 2009, 08:41 PM
    Cleaningman23
    The only carpet cleaning they want at each location is Carpet Spotting... for stains and other small areas of stains
  • Jun 10, 2009, 08:45 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    The Property Management Contact Did not specify a start date...
    The proposals that she has submitted have nothing about stripping or waxing the vct...
    I will ask...
    I have a costco business membership.. I have also ordered at ULINE in the past....but find them expensive
    I also asked her the sq footage and she did not know...
    The network center building suite... is once a week....
    from the looks of the proposal.. (its the office of the property management co) that called me


    She also stated that I need to submit license, insurance and bond...Should i go buy bonds to submit with the proposals?

    I am meeting with the manager tomorrow and getting every perspective amount of information from floors to everything

    If she does not have the sq ft then you will have to measure it... yourself tomorrow, on a per bldg basis please. You have to have the sq ft... and she knows this... hmmmmm... unless she is brand new...

    Clean, I do not want to put My company's legally protected forms on the internet, I will however email you a copy (2 sheets) if you will PM me your email address. But please do it soon as I have to get to bed... another full day tomorrow again.

    Stringer
  • Jun 10, 2009, 09:01 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    The Property Management Contact Did not specify a start date...
    The proposals that she has submitted have nothing about stripping or waxing the vct...
    I will ask...
    I have a costco business membership.. I have also ordered at ULINE in the past....but find them expensive
    I also asked her the sq footage and she did not know...
    The network center building suite... is once a week....
    from the looks of the proposal.. (its the office of the property management co) that called me


    She also stated that I need to submit license, insurance and bond...Should i go buy bonds to submit with the proposals?

    I am meeting with the manager tomorrow and getting every perspective amount of information from floors to everything

    You do have liability insurance now... right? Call your issuer and request a 'certificate of insurance' for this bid... ask her tomorrow if they need to be listed as an 'additional insured' on this certificate?

    I can't believe that they want a bond for this job. Talk to your insurance company about this too. They can issue you a one time bond... BUT they will need information from you; name of the p.m. company, the total monthly price of this job, etc, talk with them now before too long, this takes time, usually 4 days to a week. They can fax you a copy of the insurance certificate. Please confirm again that they do need a 'bond' for this job...

    Buy a 'walker' measure... this is a wheel with a telescopic pole that you roll along and it gives you the total feet in a window, much easier.

    I suggest that you sit down and go over all this info and make a list of questions for yourself for tomorrow...don't forget to ask to call again if you have more questions...it is also a good way to get your face in front of them again, always a good thing.
  • Jun 11, 2009, 11:22 AM
    Stringer

    <a href="http://wolfram.org/writing/howto/sell/cold_call.html">How to make Cold Calls</a>

    If you can not click and get this, then copy it to your browser (Nice one about cold calling)

    Stringer
  • Jun 11, 2009, 08:17 PM
    Cleaningman23

    Stringer-
    Ok, So I looked at the potential properties today...
    I have considering turning down the third location though...
    It is far form my area and is in the ghettoo (glenwood) lol and it is veryyyy small.. 970 sq ft is it possible to turn down the proposal request?
    Does it look professional if you do that..?

    The other two locations! The first is the actual building of the commercial real estate company that called me...

    Ok right now they have some guy come and clean(past two years)... my opinion... He SUX!
    I got the sq footage of the office... but not the building
    The office they want me to clean is 5010 SQ FT from what they told me... It has one break room with a fridge and sink(very well kept and clean with about 25 sq ft of tile inside that needs to be vacuumed and wet mopped) The office needs basic cleaning ( Dusting file cabinets and windwosills monthly or as when needed) Dusting Desks weekly, and vacuuming and throwing out trash weekly.. There is about 18 small offices within the office and a conference room(wipe conference tab le down with soap and water)... Medium amounts of traffic.. they also want carpet spotting when needed.. *if someone drops a coffe or something) They also want the glass doors going into the main office when needed... They also want me to supply paper towel soap and paper towel and bill them for it... Cleaning crew starts at 4:45PM...
    Dumpster is easily accessible right out the door to the back

    That's one proposal so far


    I still have to measure the main halls which amount to about 30&#37; tile and 70% and carpets.. one elevator... two stairways... two entrances... 4 total washrooms (2 men 2 woman) upper and lower level... ( need to be vacuumed and wet mopped and cleaned) Polish the elevator and water fountains


    They kind looked at me weird when I was asking them questions...
    I think it because they are use to the single owned guy that comes and cleans their building currently...

    She also said whoever they pick to clean their office... if they do a good job.. their company will supply my company with constant business... which makes me want to win the bid...
    She also said they will be accepting the best and cheapest price...
    I will be going against 3 different companies...
    Can I win this!! I know I can!!
  • Jun 11, 2009, 08:55 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    Stringer-
    Ok, So i looked at the potential properties today...
    I have considering turning down the third location though...
    It is far form my area and is in the ghettoo (glenwood) lol and it is veryyyy small.. 970 sq ft is it possible to turn down the proposal request?
    Does it look professional if you do that..??

    The other two locations! the first is the actual building of the commercial real estate company that called me...

    Ok right now they have some guy come and clean(past two years)... my opinion...He SUX!
    I got the sq footage of the office ...but not the building
    The office they want me to clean is 5010 SQ FT from what they told me ... It has one break room with a fridge and sink(very well kept and clean with about 25 sq ft of tile inside that needs to be vacuumed and wet mopped) The office needs basic cleaning ( Dusting file cabinets and windwosills monthly or as when needed) Dusting Desks weekly, and vacuuming and throwing out trash weekly.. There is about 18 small offices within the office and a conference room(wipe conference tab le down with soap and water).... Medium amounts of traffic .. they also want carpet spotting when needed..*if someone drops a coffe or something) They also want the glass doors going into the main office when needed... They also want me to supply paper towel soap and paper towel and bill them for it..... Cleaning crew starts at 4:45PM....
    Dumpster is easily accessible right out the door to the back

    Thats one proposal so far


    I still have to measure the main halls which amount to about 30&#37; tile and 70% and carpets.. one elevator... two stairways.... two entrances .... 4 total washrooms (2 men 2 woman) upper and lower level... ( need to be vacuumed and wet mopped and cleaned) Polish the elevator and water fountains


    They kind looked at me weird when i was asking them questions...
    i think it because they are use to the single owned guy that comes and cleans their building currently....

    She also said whoever they pick to clean their office ...if they do a good job.. their company will supply my company with constant business...which makes me want to win the bid...
    She also said they will be accepting the best and cheapest price...
    I will be going against 3 different companies........
    Can I win this!!!!!! I know I can!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is late again Clean, I have had my nose to the grindstone a lot lately and have been going for 10 to 12 hours/day... I am in need of new business also... I am going to Indiana again tomorrow... Some of the areas down there are very sparse...

    May be going after the hospital in Calument City... We'll see...


    Ok... when is the bid due back to them?

    Do you need a bond?

    She is using the typical line that P. M.'s use... 'The best and 'cheapest... ' Right, she is going to take the lowest price unless something terrible is wrong with the company that is cheapest...

    I told you some time ago that I do not like dealing with P. M.'s... they are a strange breed... not much 'truth comes forward'... Purchase a lead cup but expect it to be turned to gold... anyway that's just me, I respect truth and ethics...

    Do me a favor, get all the info together in outline form; I need this (you need this) in a clear outline to price it accordingly and correctly. You should always break down all the information so that you have it and so that you understand it and don't miss something.

    Example;

    Building # 1 (Name)

    Total cleanable sq ft?

    # of days per week

    # of washrooms

    Total sq ft of carpet

    Total sq ft of VCT

    Etc, etc...


    Building # 2 (Name)

    All pertinent info (same)

    Then let's forget about # 3...

    I don't know what they will do if you decide not to bid # 3... it could be a factor in not getting the total job. All you can do is ask her if it matters... how are you going to explain why you don't want to bid it?

    Nice that you can bill for the consumable supplies instead of having to guess and include it in you monthly price... that will be easier..

    Please get ALL this info together asap... again, I ask, when is the bid due Clean..

    You can get any job that you want... making a profit is not always guaranteed... and THAT is important/vital, obviously.

    Please respond as soon as you can... night for now...

    Stringer
  • Jun 11, 2009, 09:13 PM
    Cleaningman23

    OK I apologize for that ! I am going to get that measurement tool tomorrow to get the rest of the square footage for the main lobby of the building... Where did you say I can buy one of those??

    I will out line everything for you in a word document... and if email you it.. if that is all right with you...
    I asked about the bond and she said it is not required... only liability insurance is required...

    I believe what you mean about the cup!

    Hehe if I do get this job... I believe it will lead into more jobs and more oppurtunities through this commercial real estate company... so I want to submit a fair bid for it... so I am willing to sacrifice... Plus
  • Jun 11, 2009, 09:40 PM
    Clough

    Hi, Cleaningman23!

    I'm here right now! You could attach a Word document to a post here rather than email it.

    Thanks!
  • Jun 11, 2009, 09:44 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    OK I apologize for that ! I am going to get that measurement tool tomorrow to get the rest of the square footage for the main lobby of the building...Where did you say I can buy one of those???

    I will out line everything for you in a word document... and if email you it .. if that is alright with you...
    I asked about the bond and she said it is not required...only liability insurance is required...

    I believe what you mean about the cup!

    hehe if I do get this job... i believe it will lead into more jobs and more oppurtunities through this commercial real estate company...so I want to submit a fair bid for it... so i am willing to sacrifice... Plus

    Once you set your price... it will be difficult to go back later with a better one.

    When is the bid due Clean?

    A janitorial distributor, there are some in your area.. start to build a rapport with them, you will need their help down the road; supplies, chemicals, seminars, etc... Always pay them on time or before due.


    Please put your information on here as it may help others later if they are looking for this type of material. That is the reason that we are on here and devote so much time to it, to help people.

    Stringer
  • Jun 11, 2009, 09:48 PM
    Clough

    Yes, once you set a price, it's best to stick to it.

    Thanks!
  • Jun 11, 2009, 09:49 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Hi, Cleaningman23!

    I'm here right now! You could attach a Word document to a post here rather than email it.

    Thanks!

    Hi Clough, yes I didn't see your post and I said the same thing... :)


    Night guys... I like playing boss much more than 10 to 12 hour days... (sigh)... getting a little too old for this. But, to be honest, I wouldn't do anything else but this even if I had a chance to...

    But I am thinking of starting something else up also... (Tell you later... )

    Why can't I give you a rating Clough, it has been some time now since the last one?

    Stringer
  • Jun 12, 2009, 05:47 AM
    Cleaningman23

    Hi clough!
    I apologize I thought I gave you guys the bid due date!
    It is MONDAY!
    And the Contract begins July 1st...
    I will look up a janitorial supplier and check with the ones in my area...
    Im off to go clean some houses today w00t
    Ill be on later guys!
    Thanks for all the help!
  • Jun 12, 2009, 08:30 PM
    Clough

    I'm on now, Cleaningman23!

    Thanks!
  • Jun 13, 2009, 08:57 PM
    Cleaningman23

    HI CLOUGH!
    I am on now!
    I was very tired last nigh! I apologize!
    I had work at 8 am this morning!
    How is your weekend Going For you?
  • Jun 13, 2009, 08:58 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Hi stringer!
    My deadline for my bid is this Monday!
    Two Days!
    I am excited ! Yet optimistic!
    Here's all the info I got!

    Commercial Cleaning Outlines for Proposals
    Once a week Cleaning
    Contract Proposal #1
    Network Building
    ___________________________________
    Total Cleanable Sq footage = 2,902Sq Feet
    Tile Sq Footage = 1,584 Sq ft
    Carpeted Area = 1,318 Sq ft
    ___________________________________
    Bathrooms in Building = 4
    Elevators = 1
    Stairways = 2
    Entrances = 1 main , 1 side
    Levels= 2 floors
    ________________________________________
    Duties
    1) Vacuuming and mopping all floors carpet and tile
    2) Clean inside glass of entrances of building when needed
    3)Empty Trash in Bathrooms and near water fountain
    4)Remove Carpet Spots when if/needed(spotting)
    5) All Ceramic Residual Tiles Dust Mopped and Wet Mopped
    6)Clean and Polish Drinking Fountains(2)+Elevator(1)
    7) Clean Washrooms on 1st and 2nd floors (4)





    Cleaning Proposal #2
    (Network Building) Once a week Cleaning
    Suite105
    Total Sq footage = 5010 Sq Feet
    Carpet =4,950 Sq Feet
    Tile= 60 Square Feet
    _________________________________
    (17) offices within Suite
    (1) Conference Room
    Medium Traffic
    Light Paper Load
    (1) Computer Each Office
    _________________________________
    Duties
    1)Empty All Trash
    2) Dust Desks Weekly
    3)Dust File Cabinets Monthly/When Needed
    4) Vacuum All Office
    5) Clean Entrance Windows When Needed
    6) Clean to glass to entrance of (17) offices
    7) Dust + Vacuum and Mop Kitchen/Coffee Room (60 Sq FT)
    8) Dust Logo When Needed






    Contract Proposal 3
    Vollmer Executive Suite ( Once A week Cleaning)
    Suites 2A and 2B
    Common Maintenance
    Of Building
    (3) Floors-Levels, (6) Bathrooms
    ____________________________
    Common Area
    Tile = 1,223 Sq Ft
    Carpet = 1,259 Sq Ft
    Total = 2,482 sq Ft
    _____________________
    Suites
    2A = 2,508 Sq Ft
    2B = 905 sq ft
    1)Vacuum
    2) Empty Trash
    3) Dust Desks weekly/when needed
    ________________________________
    Main Building Duties
    1) Vacuum/Mop all Floors
    2) Clean, Vacuum, and Mop all Restrooms
    3) Empty Trash in all common areas and bathrooms
    4)Remove all Carpet Spots/Stains when needed
    5) All ceramic tiles Dust mopped and wet mopped
    6) Polish and Clean Drinking Fountains and Elevator
    7) Clean Entrance Glass Inside of Building When Needed

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