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  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:12 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Other possible keywords to use in your ads.

    Chicago maid service | Chicago maids | Cleaning service Chicago
    Commercial cleaning services in Chicago and suburbs area.
    Cleaning service Chicago | office house cleaning services ...
    Chicago House Cleaning, Cleaning Services Illinois :: Chicago-IL Locate Cleaning Services, Service Cleaning Chicago, etc.

    Those are keywords that are on the first page in the google.com search.

    Ok I added those keywords and reworded the ad... I also added the counties that I serve@ check it out and let me know! Yes I seen your ad

    Thanks! Much Appreciated!
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:14 PM
    Clough

    I'll check it out! On my Valentine's Special ad, I tried to use every keyword that I could about Valentine's Day around where I live.
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:19 PM
    Cleaningman23

    I also added these keywords at the bottom of my ad?

    Do they sound good?

    Mothers Day
    Mothers Day Flowers
    Hallmark Cards
    Mothers Day Card
    Mom
    Dad
    Fathers Day
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:23 PM
    Clough
    Okay, I've seen the change.

    This is what I would suggest you change the following part to:

    Will County Cleaning Service, Du Page County IL Cleaners, Tinley Park IL Maid Service, Orland Park IL Housecleaning, Mokena IL Janitorial Service, Cleaning Service in Frankfort IL, Homer Glen IL Office Cleaning, Palos Park IL Cleaners, Palos Hills IL Sanitation Service, Sanitary Cleaners in Hickory Hills IL, Lockport IL Floor Cleaning and Buffing, Lemont IL Janitorial Service
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:28 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    I also added these keywords at the bottom of my ad ??

    Do they sound good??

    Mothers Day
    Mothers Day Flowers
    Hallmark Cards
    Mothers Day Card
    Mom
    Dad
    Fathers Day

    Yes, they sound good!

    Here's a suggestion for some of them as well as others that you might use.
    Mother's Day in Chicago, Find Mother's Day Flowers in Chicago, Mother's Day Dinner in Chicago, Chicagoland Mother's Day Events, Celebrate Mother's Day in Chicago.

    The same could be applied for Father's Day.

    Are you going to run some kind of special because of the holiday?

    Thanks!
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:29 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Okay, I've seen the change.

    This is what I would suggest you change the following part to:

    Will County Cleaning Service, Du Page County IL Cleaners, Tinley Park IL Maid Service, Orland Park IL Housecleaning, Mokena IL Janitorial Service, Cleaning Service in Frankfort IL, Homer Glen IL Office Cleaning, Palos Park IL Cleaners, Palos Hills IL Sanitation Service, Sanitary Cleaners in Hickory Hills IL, Lockport IL Floor Cleaning and Buffing, Lemont IL Janitorial Service

    Ok I did what you said...

    I also added in "swine Flu" into my keywords since I think a lot pf people are using that term right now lol

    Does that sound like a smart thing to do??

    I put kill swine flu lol...
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:39 PM
    Clough

    Yes, it's fine to put swine flu in it! You might also want to put some helpful links about the swine flu in your ad!

    Please click HERE and in particular, HERE.

    I think that most of my ads concerning that time have expired, though.

    Thanks!
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:40 PM
    Clough
    Another thing about hoobly.com, is to be sure to check the internal messaging system on it! I had a couple of inquiries about two months ago that I didn't know were there!

    Thanks!
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:47 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Its like you read my mind lol

    I just checked my email and seen that I had a inquiry from a potential customer that needs cleaning... to bad I don't service his area though... he said he wanted some pianos dusted hahahaa jk

    But you thanks for keeping a look out!

    Btw you think we can make it on page 1? Of Google?

    Also what are some good ways to get people to my website...

    :-) Much appreciated
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:55 PM
    Clough

    I think that you're going to need to post some additional ads in order to make it on the first page of a Google search. I think part of the reason that mine are so well exposed is because I'm "out there" so much.

    Yeah, too bad you don't service his area, because his pianos really need to be dusted!

    I'm going to place my Mother's Day special ad, now.

    Let's see what happens!

    Thanks!
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:56 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Hehe

    Ill eventually get it...

    I am going to steal the Skeleton of the ads you put out and repost them with cleaning words and my logo!!

    Haha

    Yes. You do seem to be everywhere though lol

    I want to see this ad though :-)
  • Apr 27, 2009, 10:57 PM
    Cleaningman23

    well clough maybe we can work on this tomorrow.. its getting late... I have some additional questions for you... about getting my website to get more views on it...

    If you want to.. we can resume tomorrow night and go from there...

    Your help and time on here tonight is much appreciated and valued ! Thank You for all the advice! God Bless! Hope you are feeling better !
  • Apr 27, 2009, 11:09 PM
    Clough
    Thanks! I've taken somewhat of a downturn in health in the past couple of days, but hope to be on the mend soon! My arms feel like they're going to drop off and I have very little strength in my arms and hands. Painted another ceiling last week as well as tuned a piano twice in one sitting that was the worst sounding piano that I've ever heard for a customer!

    I have to direct my barbershop chorus in a performance tomorrow night as well as a performance, so it probably won't be until around 11:00 that I get on here.

    I'll let you know how soon my Mother's day hoobly ad appears. I copied and pasted my Valentine's day one and just need to change some of the words. I hope that hoobly doesn't delete it like they did my Valentine's Day ad. I had it loaded with so many things that I think they perceived it as being spam. It appeared within minutes on the first page of a Google search. We have to be kind of careful with these advertising sites, because some of them can be really picky about what's posted on them.

    We'll talk more later about the website thing. What I think that you should do is to start at least several more websites that are free to start and put various things on them that will attract what people are searching for.

    A couple of years ago, it used to be that there were over 5,000 links to websites that had my email address on them. Some of those sites no longer exist or don't allow advertising on them anymore.

    There's always new advertising websites springing up, though. We just have to search for them.

    I just closed off with a guy in Canada. We're composing a song together. So, I guess that I'll wish you a very pleasant and restful sleep also!

    God's Love and Blessings to You!

    Goodnight! :)
  • Apr 28, 2009, 08:47 AM
    mariemay

    I have a carpet cleaning business with about $250,000 in sales per year. We paid a lot of money in yellowpage ads for residential business the first two years, and it did not provide much fruit. We are now 99% commercial. All of our commercial work was attained by knocking on doors and having a flyer and business card ready.
  • Apr 28, 2009, 10:59 PM
    Clough

    I do hope that you return sometime, Cleaningman23! I was really enjoying working on this with you!

    Thanks!
  • May 2, 2009, 10:35 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    I do hope that you return sometime, Cleaningman23! I was really enjoying working on this with you!

    Thanks!

    Nonono The pleasures all mine and Thank You once again for all you help and advice!
    But!
    I am back clough! How is the Mothers day ad coming along for you?
    I am not sure with any results on mine yet?
    Let me know the next time you will be on! :0)
  • May 5, 2009, 11:08 AM
    Cleaningman23
    Cloughhh where are you@!

    I need my piano tuned!!

    Haha jking

    Lets do this tonight!
  • May 6, 2009, 01:14 AM
    Clough

    I'm here but am having some difficulty being on the Internet because of living in someone else's home. Will hope to be back to normal sometime soon!

    Thanks!
  • May 13, 2009, 02:41 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    I'm here but am having some difficulty being on the Internet because of living in someone else's home. Will hope to be back to normal sometime soon!!

    Thanks!!

    Clough where are you!! I want to continue this :) I hope all is well
  • May 13, 2009, 11:48 PM
    Clough

    I am here, Cleaningman23!

    Hopefully, within the next couple of days, I should be back to normal at my home and able to use my own computer, full-time!

    I also hope that you're well! :)

    Thanks!
  • May 14, 2009, 06:35 AM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mariemay View Post
    I have a carpet cleaning business with about $250,000 in sales per year. We paid alot of money in yellowpage ads for residential business the first two years, and it did not provide much fruit. We are now 99% commercial. All of our commercial work was attained by knocking on doors and having a flyer and business card ready.

    I had a question about your answer...
    You say all your business is from knocking on doors?
    Now is that knocking on commercial businesses?
    Also is it just a commercial carpet cleaning co.
    Or do you also clean offices?
    What are the other means of obtaining these commercial customers?
  • May 14, 2009, 06:48 AM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    I had a question about your answer...
    You say all your business is from knocking on doors?
    Now is that knocking on commercial businesses?
    Also is it just a commercial carpet cleaning co.?
    Or do you also clean offices?
    What are the other means of obtaining these commercial customers?

    Morning,

    How are you cleaningman? I only have a few minutes, I have a meetings with our accountants and then two appointments this afternoon.

    I wanted to say that anything other than residential is considered commercial which includes offices. Whether it is regular cleaning, carpets, windows, etc... these are the two primary markets.

    Stringer
  • May 14, 2009, 08:08 AM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    Morning,

    How are you cleaningman? I only have a few minutes, I have a meetings with our accountants and then two appointments this afternoon.

    I wanted to say that anything other than residential is considered commercial which includes offices. Whether it is regular cleaning, carpets, windows, etc.....these are the two primary markets.

    Stringer

    Good Morning Stringer!

    Ok ! I understand.. That's always hard to distinquish . I always wondered if windows was considered more residential than commercial but I guess you are right!

    Thanks for the input ! Once again! I hope can maybe teach you something one day ! Haha just jkin
  • May 14, 2009, 08:17 AM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    Good Morning Stringer!

    Ok ! I understand.. Thats always hard to distinquish . I always wondered if windows was considered more residential than commercial but I guess you are right!

    Thanks for the input ! Once again! I hope can maybe teach you something one day ! haha just jkin

    I know that this is going to sound like an old quote but;

    I learn at least three new things a day, everyday. Watching, listening and reading.

    Stringer
  • May 14, 2009, 08:37 AM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    I know that this is going to sound like an old quote but;

    I learn at least three new things a day, everyday. Watching, listening and reading.

    Stringer

    My quote is


    "I learn three new cleaning facts everyday from askmehelp.com and from you! stringer"""Thank Heavens"

    Haha jkin
  • May 14, 2009, 08:43 AM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    My quote is


    "I learn three new cleaning facts everyday from askmehelp.com and from you! stringer"""Thank Heavens"

    haha jkin

    Thank you for the compliment.

    Talk with you later... gotta go... wish me luck today, always helps.
  • May 14, 2009, 08:45 AM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    Thank yo for the compliment.

    Talk with you later...gotta go...wish me luck today, always helps.

    GOOD LUCK!!

    Haha

    Wish me some too!
    I don't mind rubbing off your successful luck that you carry

    Hehe jkin

    Good Luck!
    TTYL!
  • May 14, 2009, 03:21 PM
    Stringer

    Well, we both know that you get 'lucky' when you bust you a$$, put in the time, and are prepared,. and pray a lot.

    Stringer
  • May 14, 2009, 08:37 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    Well, we both know that you get 'lucky' when you bust you a$$, put in the time, and are prepared, .....and pray a lot.

    Stringer

    I try to bust my A$$ out her ein the Chicago Area

    But I think you took all the commercial jobs in the Chicago Area!

    I have been trying to find a commercial office to bid on in the past 3 months and have had no luck:(
  • May 14, 2009, 10:20 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    I try to bust my A$$ out her ein the Chicago Area

    But I think you took all the commercial jobs in the Chicago Area!

    I have been trying to find a commercial office to bid on in the past 3 months and have had no luck:(

    Funny (Ha), I wish that were true...

    As you know, I have been in this business for 35 years in one capacity or another, and I still knock on doors, along with other methods. Gets new business and keeps my fingers in the pie and besides, I really enjoy it.

    By the way, although you may get some jobs sooner of course, the 'lead time' on decent sized jobs from initial contact to contract is generally 3 months. So you should getting a ton... very soon, right? Good luck, keep knocking...

    Stringer
  • May 15, 2009, 02:42 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    Funny (Ha), I wish that were true....

    As you know, I have been in this business for 35 years in one capacity or another, and I still knock on doors, along with other methods. Gets new business and keeps my fingers in the pie and besides, I really enjoy it.

    By the way, although you may get some jobs sooner of course, the 'lead time' on decent sized jobs from initial contact to contract is generally 3 months. So you should get getting a ton ....very soon, right? Good luck, keep knocking.....

    Stringer

    Hey I want to dig my fingers into the pie also lol

    When I opened up business one of the ladies at the borders book store in my chicago area said they were canning the company..
    so I have followed up with them and have seen no response!

    Do you usually randomly walk into businesses even if it says no soliciting? Lol
    I also go a residential house bid and the client explained to me they were firing their current cleaning co but not until September (20000 sq ft office)
    Her current provider was cardinal cleaning... May I ask are they one of your competitors? Lol

    Or are you them hahah! :rolleyes: watch out here comes the pieeeeeeeeee jkin
  • May 15, 2009, 05:09 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    Hey I want to dig my fingers into the pie also lol

    When I opened up business one of the ladies at the borders book store in my chicago area said they were canning the company..
    so I have followed up with them and have seen no response!

    Do you usually randomly walk into businesses even if it says no soliciting? lol
    I also go a residential house bid and the client explained to me they were firing their current cleaning co but not until september (20000 sq ft office)
    Her current provider was cardinal cleaning..... May I ask are they one of your competitors? lol

    Or are you them hahah! :rolleyes: watch out here comes the pieeeeeeeeee jkin

    NO, I am not Cardinal Cleaning, however they are a good competitor in my market niche.

    Are you saying the Cardinal was/is bidding on residential cleaning? And this house was 20,000 sq ft? Interesting... as they have been strictly commercial from my knowledge of them... We have some accounts that they have been after for many years and they have a few that we want... and probably will eventually get, I believe.

    We have won some and lost some to Cardinal. Some companies are not beyond stretching the truth some when it comes to their competitors. Although I am not particularly saying that about them.

    "watch out here comes the pieeeeeeeeee jkin[/QUOTE]"

    Doesn't bother me a bit jkin, there has been and will always be enough to go around for those companies that do it the right way. In fact, I wish you well, I always enjoy beating a good competitor... ha ha. There is so much business on the south side that you should be busier than h3ll... If things go well, I am certain that we will face each other out there somewhere, better be prepared my friend... be prepared. :)

    Stringer
  • May 15, 2009, 10:00 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    NO, I am not Cardinal Cleaning, however they are a good competitor in my market niche.

    Are you saying the Cardinal was/is bidding on residential cleaning? And this house was 20,000 sq ft? Interesting.....as they have been strictly commercial from my knowledge of them....We have some accounts that they have been after for many years and they have a few that we want...and probably will eventually get, I believe.

    We have won some and lost some to Cardinal. Some companies are not beyond stretching the truth some when it comes to their competitors. Although I am not particularly saying that about them.

    "watch out here comes the pieeeeeeeeee jkin

    "

    Doesn't bother me a bit jkin, there has been and will always be enough to go around for those companies that do it the right way. In fact, I wish you well, I always enjoy beating a good competitor... ha ha. There is so much business on the south side that you should be busier than h3ll... If things go well, I am certain that we will face each other out there somewhere, better be prepared my friend... be prepared. :)

    Stringer[/QUOTE]

    Ahhh
    You have mis read me my friend. Here is how the story goes. This lead(customer) called me for an estimate for a house she was selling, which had her family living it...
    This place was disgusting and really dirt...
    She wanted me to go under beds and go under couches and the works.. basement etc

    I gave her a fair estimate for $175.00

    I did a follow up call with her to clean the house.. and received no call back...

    She then explained to me that the office she works at 20,000 sq ft. Currently has Cardinal Cleaning servicing their office...
    And that she called them to clean her house also...

    Which I did not know cardinal cleaning did residential


    Apparently they do...

    Sooooo


    She asked me when I was there that they are most likely going to fire cardinal... and accepting bids in july-august-march

    Sooo I am waiting to follow up with it... But for a low fee of 49.99 I can forward you this lead and we can do some business together

    Haha Jkin

    Yes but I am hoping it may be a chance... who knows until then

    If she did not call back about the residential house , I am unsure about the office...
  • May 15, 2009, 10:38 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    " [/I][/B]

    Doesn't bother me a bit jkin, there has been and will always be enough to go around for those companies that do it the right way. In fact, I wish you well, I always enjoy beating a good competitor...ha ha. There is so much business on the south side that you should be busier than h3ll....If things go well, I am certain that we will face each other out there somewhere, better be prepared my friend...be prepared. :)

    Stringer

    Ahhh
    You have mis read me my friend. Here is how the story goes. This lead(customer) called me for an estimate for a house she was selling, which had her family living it...
    This place was disgusting and really dirt...
    She wanted me to go under beds and go under couches and the works.. basement etc

    I gave her a fair estimate for $175.00

    I did a follow up call with her to clean the house.. and received no call back...

    She then explained to me that the office she works at 20,000 sq ft. Currently has Cardinal Cleaning servicing their office...
    And that she called them to clean her house also...

    Which I did not know cardinal cleaning did residential


    Apparently they do...

    Sooooo


    She asked me when I was there that they are most likely going to fire cardinal... and accepting bids in july-august-march

    Sooo I am waiting to follow up with it... But for a low fee of 49.99 I can forward you this lead and we can do some business together

    Haha Jkin

    Yes but I am hoping it may be a chance... who knows until then

    If she did not call back about the residential house , I am unsure about the office... [/QUOTE]

    If you have the address of the 20,000 sq ft office...then if I were you, I would go knock on the door. Good luck.....
  • May 16, 2009, 03:31 PM
    Clough

    Hi, guys!

    When I was picking up my meds at Wal-Mart, I got a piano tuning simply because of what I said to the check-out lady about what I needed to do for the evening.

    It can pay to mention what you do, no matter what situation you're in.

    Thanks!
  • May 16, 2009, 03:35 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    Clough where are you!!! I want to continue this :) I hope all is well

    I'm still here, but am still having some difficulties here with which I need to deal.

    Am looking forward to further dialogue with you, Cleaningman23!

    Thanks!
  • May 16, 2009, 05:50 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Hi, guys!

    When I was picking up my meds at Wal-Mart, I got a piano tuning simply because of what I said to the check-out lady about what I needed to do for the evening.

    It can pay to mention what you do, no matter what situation you're in.

    Thanks!

    I've been saying...
  • May 16, 2009, 08:28 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    I've been saying.......

    I know what you mean!
    I was at the gas station getting my winning lottery tickets lol
    And
    This construction worker behind me started asking me how old I was and what I do for a living and I stated I owned a cleaning company...
    Before I knew it the cashier and him were amazed that I owned a cleaning company
    Which I don't take into consideration that often...
    I actually felt special for a moment hehe

    But he then asked me for my business card and I went to go in my wallet and sure enough...

    I WAS OUT

    I was never so pissed in all my life at myself...
    The man did take my business number down though.. and stated he may need help in the future

    NEVER AGAIN will this happen to me
  • May 16, 2009, 09:25 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cleaningman23 View Post
    I know what you mean!
    I was at the gas station getting my winning lottery tickets lol
    and
    this construction worker behind me started asking me how old I was and what I do for a living and I stated I owned a cleaning company....
    Before I knew it the cashier and him were amazed that I owned a cleaning company
    which I dont take into consideration that often....
    I actually felt special for a moment hehe

    But he then asked me for my business card and I went to go in my wallet and sure enough....

    I WAS OUT

    I was never so pissed in all my life at my self...
    The man did take my business number down though.. and stated he may need help in the future

    NEVER AGAIN will this happen to me

    That has happened to me 3 times in 35 years in business. Now I have cards in my car, all my jackets, shirt pockets, and tucked in my materials.

    Calling cards are a whole different subject... by that I mean how they are printed, what they say, colors, the back of them, size, shape, etc. Another whole subject matter.

    The big question here is... did you get his name and direct phone number?
  • May 18, 2009, 09:23 PM
    Cleaningman23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    That has happened to me 3 times in 35 years in business. Now i have cards in my car, all my jackets, shirt pockets, and tucked in my materials.

    Calling cards are a whole different subject...by that I mean how they are printed, what they say, colors, the back of them, size, shape, etc. Another whole subject matter.

    The big question here is......did you get his name and direct phone number?

    Im going out for the door to door-kill tomorrow wish me luck ! I am picking a shopping center and attacking hehe

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