They also left a phone number on the proposal that was not mine
I googled it and it came up to a
CINDYS CLEANING SERVICE?
SHOULD I ASK THE MNGT CO HOW MANY BIDDERS AM I GOING AGAINST?
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They also left a phone number on the proposal that was not mine
I googled it and it came up to a
CINDYS CLEANING SERVICE?
SHOULD I ASK THE MNGT CO HOW MANY BIDDERS AM I GOING AGAINST?
Yes, ask how many and who they are if they will tell you. I'm sure that with property mgrs there will be at least three including you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleaningman23
Ok I will be asking tomorrow! Hey did you see what I type don the other page about the proposals they submitted to me...
1. If you get the job, when do you start?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleaningman23
2. Do you have carpet cleaning responsibility? Do you have to strip/scrub and refinish the VCT? Are there any other floors (such as in the foyer/waiting area, ceramic tile)?
3. Get total counts Clean... washrooms, coffee stations, lunchrooms, etc, FOR EACH BLDG.
3. Do you have a source for the consumables? If not you could use Costco, Sam's, etc... cheaper and bulk. This is a tough one. I do not like having to provide these supplies as you have a very difficult time determining how much you need of everything. And you may try going to a jansan distributor for these items. But with this low volume now it may not be worth it, I would use Costco or Sam's.
We really need the square footage Clean... that puts everything into perspective.
The 'Network center" 3rd bldg... how many days per week?
Get all your TOTALS on a per building basis first then total it all later, important.
Do any of these offices have any private washrooms?
I am going to try to scan and send you a questionnaire that we use to ask them some details... hope this works...
We need more info clean, can't give a correct bid only on what we have...
Stringer
The Property Management Contact Did not specify a start date...
The proposals that she has submitted have nothing about stripping or waxing the vct...
I will ask...
I have a costco business membership.. I have also ordered at ULINE in the past... but find them expensive
I also asked her the sq footage and she did not know...
The network center building suite... is once a week...
From the looks of the proposal.. (its the office of the property management co) that called me
She also stated that I need to submit license, insurance and bond... Should I go buy bonds to submit with the proposals?
I am meeting with the manager tomorrow and getting every perspective amount of information from floors to everything
The only carpet cleaning they want at each location is Carpet Spotting... for stains and other small areas of stains
If she does not have the sq ft then you will have to measure it... yourself tomorrow, on a per bldg basis please. You have to have the sq ft... and she knows this... hmmmmm... unless she is brand new...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleaningman23
Clean, I do not want to put My company's legally protected forms on the internet, I will however email you a copy (2 sheets) if you will PM me your email address. But please do it soon as I have to get to bed... another full day tomorrow again.
Stringer
You do have liability insurance now... right? Call your issuer and request a 'certificate of insurance' for this bid... ask her tomorrow if they need to be listed as an 'additional insured' on this certificate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleaningman23
I can't believe that they want a bond for this job. Talk to your insurance company about this too. They can issue you a one time bond... BUT they will need information from you; name of the p.m. company, the total monthly price of this job, etc, talk with them now before too long, this takes time, usually 4 days to a week. They can fax you a copy of the insurance certificate. Please confirm again that they do need a 'bond' for this job...
Buy a 'walker' measure... this is a wheel with a telescopic pole that you roll along and it gives you the total feet in a window, much easier.
I suggest that you sit down and go over all this info and make a list of questions for yourself for tomorrow...don't forget to ask to call again if you have more questions...it is also a good way to get your face in front of them again, always a good thing.
<a href="http://wolfram.org/writing/howto/sell/cold_call.html">How to make Cold Calls</a>
If you can not click and get this, then copy it to your browser (Nice one about cold calling)
Stringer
Stringer-
Ok, So I looked at the potential properties today...
I have considering turning down the third location though...
It is far form my area and is in the ghettoo (glenwood) lol and it is veryyyy small.. 970 sq ft is it possible to turn down the proposal request?
Does it look professional if you do that..?
The other two locations! The first is the actual building of the commercial real estate company that called me...
Ok right now they have some guy come and clean(past two years)... my opinion... He SUX!
I got the sq footage of the office... but not the building
The office they want me to clean is 5010 SQ FT from what they told me... It has one break room with a fridge and sink(very well kept and clean with about 25 sq ft of tile inside that needs to be vacuumed and wet mopped) The office needs basic cleaning ( Dusting file cabinets and windwosills monthly or as when needed) Dusting Desks weekly, and vacuuming and throwing out trash weekly.. There is about 18 small offices within the office and a conference room(wipe conference tab le down with soap and water)... Medium amounts of traffic.. they also want carpet spotting when needed.. *if someone drops a coffe or something) They also want the glass doors going into the main office when needed... They also want me to supply paper towel soap and paper towel and bill them for it... Cleaning crew starts at 4:45PM...
Dumpster is easily accessible right out the door to the back
That's one proposal so far
I still have to measure the main halls which amount to about 30% tile and 70% and carpets.. one elevator... two stairways... two entrances... 4 total washrooms (2 men 2 woman) upper and lower level... ( need to be vacuumed and wet mopped and cleaned) Polish the elevator and water fountains
They kind looked at me weird when I was asking them questions...
I think it because they are use to the single owned guy that comes and cleans their building currently...
She also said whoever they pick to clean their office... if they do a good job.. their company will supply my company with constant business... which makes me want to win the bid...
She also said they will be accepting the best and cheapest price...
I will be going against 3 different companies...
Can I win this!! I know I can!!
It is late again Clean, I have had my nose to the grindstone a lot lately and have been going for 10 to 12 hours/day... I am in need of new business also... I am going to Indiana again tomorrow... Some of the areas down there are very sparse...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleaningman23
May be going after the hospital in Calument City... We'll see...
Ok... when is the bid due back to them?
Do you need a bond?
She is using the typical line that P. M.'s use... 'The best and 'cheapest... ' Right, she is going to take the lowest price unless something terrible is wrong with the company that is cheapest...
I told you some time ago that I do not like dealing with P. M.'s... they are a strange breed... not much 'truth comes forward'... Purchase a lead cup but expect it to be turned to gold... anyway that's just me, I respect truth and ethics...
Do me a favor, get all the info together in outline form; I need this (you need this) in a clear outline to price it accordingly and correctly. You should always break down all the information so that you have it and so that you understand it and don't miss something.
Example;
Building # 1 (Name)
Total cleanable sq ft?
# of days per week
# of washrooms
Total sq ft of carpet
Total sq ft of VCT
Etc, etc...
Building # 2 (Name)
All pertinent info (same)
Then let's forget about # 3...
I don't know what they will do if you decide not to bid # 3... it could be a factor in not getting the total job. All you can do is ask her if it matters... how are you going to explain why you don't want to bid it?
Nice that you can bill for the consumable supplies instead of having to guess and include it in you monthly price... that will be easier..
Please get ALL this info together asap... again, I ask, when is the bid due Clean..
You can get any job that you want... making a profit is not always guaranteed... and THAT is important/vital, obviously.
Please respond as soon as you can... night for now...
Stringer
OK I apologize for that ! I am going to get that measurement tool tomorrow to get the rest of the square footage for the main lobby of the building... Where did you say I can buy one of those??
I will out line everything for you in a word document... and if email you it.. if that is all right with you...
I asked about the bond and she said it is not required... only liability insurance is required...
I believe what you mean about the cup!
Hehe if I do get this job... I believe it will lead into more jobs and more oppurtunities through this commercial real estate company... so I want to submit a fair bid for it... so I am willing to sacrifice... Plus
Hi, Cleaningman23!
I'm here right now! You could attach a Word document to a post here rather than email it.
Thanks!
Once you set your price... it will be difficult to go back later with a better one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleaningman23
When is the bid due Clean?
A janitorial distributor, there are some in your area.. start to build a rapport with them, you will need their help down the road; supplies, chemicals, seminars, etc... Always pay them on time or before due.
Please put your information on here as it may help others later if they are looking for this type of material. That is the reason that we are on here and devote so much time to it, to help people.
Stringer
Yes, once you set a price, it's best to stick to it.
Thanks!
Hi Clough, yes I didn't see your post and I said the same thing... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clough
Night guys... I like playing boss much more than 10 to 12 hour days... (sigh)... getting a little too old for this. But, to be honest, I wouldn't do anything else but this even if I had a chance to...
But I am thinking of starting something else up also... (Tell you later... )
Why can't I give you a rating Clough, it has been some time now since the last one?
Stringer
Hi clough!
I apologize I thought I gave you guys the bid due date!
It is MONDAY!
And the Contract begins July 1st...
I will look up a janitorial supplier and check with the ones in my area...
Im off to go clean some houses today w00t
Ill be on later guys!
Thanks for all the help!
I'm on now, Cleaningman23!
Thanks!
HI CLOUGH!
I am on now!
I was very tired last nigh! I apologize!
I had work at 8 am this morning!
How is your weekend Going For you?
Hi stringer!
My deadline for my bid is this Monday!
Two Days!
I am excited ! Yet optimistic!
Here's all the info I got!
Commercial Cleaning Outlines for Proposals
Once a week Cleaning
Contract Proposal #1
Network Building
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Total Cleanable Sq footage = 2,902Sq Feet
Tile Sq Footage = 1,584 Sq ft
Carpeted Area = 1,318 Sq ft
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Bathrooms in Building = 4
Elevators = 1
Stairways = 2
Entrances = 1 main , 1 side
Levels= 2 floors
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Duties
1) Vacuuming and mopping all floors carpet and tile
2) Clean inside glass of entrances of building when needed
3)Empty Trash in Bathrooms and near water fountain
4)Remove Carpet Spots when if/needed(spotting)
5) All Ceramic Residual Tiles Dust Mopped and Wet Mopped
6)Clean and Polish Drinking Fountains(2)+Elevator(1)
7) Clean Washrooms on 1st and 2nd floors (4)
Cleaning Proposal #2
(Network Building) Once a week Cleaning
Suite105
Total Sq footage = 5010 Sq Feet
Carpet =4,950 Sq Feet
Tile= 60 Square Feet
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(17) offices within Suite
(1) Conference Room
Medium Traffic
Light Paper Load
(1) Computer Each Office
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Duties
1)Empty All Trash
2) Dust Desks Weekly
3)Dust File Cabinets Monthly/When Needed
4) Vacuum All Office
5) Clean Entrance Windows When Needed
6) Clean to glass to entrance of (17) offices
7) Dust + Vacuum and Mop Kitchen/Coffee Room (60 Sq FT)
8) Dust Logo When Needed
Contract Proposal 3
Vollmer Executive Suite ( Once A week Cleaning)
Suites 2A and 2B
Common Maintenance
Of Building
(3) Floors-Levels, (6) Bathrooms
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Common Area
Tile = 1,223 Sq Ft
Carpet = 1,259 Sq Ft
Total = 2,482 sq Ft
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Suites
2A = 2,508 Sq Ft
2B = 905 sq ft
1)Vacuum
2) Empty Trash
3) Dust Desks weekly/when needed
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Main Building Duties
1) Vacuum/Mop all Floors
2) Clean, Vacuum, and Mop all Restrooms
3) Empty Trash in all common areas and bathrooms
4)Remove all Carpet Spots/Stains when needed
5) All ceramic tiles Dust mopped and wet mopped
6) Polish and Clean Drinking Fountains and Elevator
7) Clean Entrance Glass Inside of Building When Needed
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