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  • Nov 25, 2009, 10:08 PM
    KB50MJ
    Skin Bleaching Cream? Which one should I ues for better results?
    Hi. I am a medium-light skinned black person(mostly on the light side).

    But I wanted to lighten my skin to the complexion of MJ in these photo:
    http://mjjgallery.free.fr/bad/shortfilms/sd/001.jpg

    http://mjjgallery.free.fr/bad/shortfilms/bad/015.jpg

    Now like I said, my complexion now is pretty light, but not all that light like in the pics here. And that's the look I want.

    Now I did some research and I read that MJ(and his sister LaToya) used a cream called 'Porcelana'.
    Buy Porcelana Fade Dark Spots Nighttime Treatment Online at drugstore.com
    Buy Porcelana Fade Dark Spots DaytimeTreatment Online at drugstore.com

    But It was hard for me to find both the daytime and nighttime porcelana creams in my local stores.

    So I bought the 'Palmers Skin Success Eventone Fade Cream'.
    Buy Skin Success Eventone Fade Cream, Regular Online at drugstore.com

    I only put it on the places where I know people will see. Like basically from my chest up. Including arms, neck, and face.

    Now which cream would you suggest I use? Which one is better and will give me better results?

    And is it OK to switch cream brands?

    I also heard that taking at least 500mg of Vitamin C will inhibit the production of mealin(spelling) in the skin. Is that true?

    Thanks in advance.
  • Nov 26, 2009, 06:54 AM
    Golden_Girl

    I don't think vitamin c will completely inhibit the production of melanin, but it can help assist with inhibition along w/ a good lightener. I'm taking 1000mg liquid vitamin c, but I am thinking that you can get more results if applied topically.
    http://www.whiterskin.info/how-takin...lightens-skin/

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...rk-415681.html

    I never used the palmer's skin success, but I doubt it can give you a lot of lightening, but maybe some of the other members have used it and can give more info on how it lightens.
  • Nov 26, 2009, 09:48 AM
    KB50MJ

    Thanks. Anyone else have ideas?
  • Nov 27, 2009, 11:12 AM
    MAHARANI

    I very much doubt that porcelana is what the 2 Jackson siblings used and I believe that it would be very unlikely that any info on what they use would be posted on the net. It is probably somone's marketing ploy to get people to try and use it. I have seen this Porcelana product before but never heard anything significant about it.


    I have tried Palmers and did not find it that effective in my experience.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 06:08 AM
    nikkicute
    Ohhh MJ, why didn't you STOP right there!? So cute!

    Neither Porcelana or Palmers will get you that light, those over the counter products are not that strong and have low percentage of hydroquinone.

    You need a stronger hq cream like 4% and retin A should help you out. You posted you were already light those two products should do the trick.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 07:41 AM
    mobster
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    thanks. anyone else have ideas?


    Yup, we are basically getting the same idea,
    OMG.

    I also have the goal to reach that complexion,

    And I am very light, biracial.

    So it is almost a 2 or highest 3 shades away.

    I am 1 shade away, from how MJ looked in "CAPTAIN EO"

    I normally use

    Retin A, and HQ strong one 4%.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 11:44 AM
    KB50MJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkicute View Post
    Ohhh MJ, why didn't you STOP right there!?! So cute!!

    Neither Porcelana or Palmers will get you that light, those over the counter products are not that strong and have low percentage of hydroquinone.

    You need a stronger hq cream like 4% and retin A should help you out. You posted you were already light those two products should do the trick.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mobster View Post
    Yup, we are basically getting the same idea,
    OMG.

    i also have the goal to reach that complexion,

    and i am very light, biracial.

    soo it is almost a 2 or highest 3 shades away.

    I am 1 shade away, from how MJ looked in "CAPTAIN EO"

    I normally use

    Retin A, and HQ strong one 4%.

    Thanks guys.

    Where can I get these without prescription from a doctor?

    Where and what should I buy?

    Thanks.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 06:39 PM
    KB50MJ
    Cool man. Thanks.

    Now which ones exactly would you suggest I use for the BEST results?
  • Nov 28, 2009, 10:08 PM
    KB50MJ

    And in addition to the post above, how should this be applied daily?

    Like should I use it twice a day? And how should I put it on? Like should I put the Retin A then the HQ or the HQ then the Retin A?
  • Nov 29, 2009, 01:47 AM
    mobster
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    And in addition to the post above, how should this be applied daily?

    Like shoudl I use it twice a day? And how should I put it on? Like should I put the Retin A then the HQ or the HQ then the Retin A?


    You have to buy both the Retin A and Hydroquinone,
    And I will suggest you buy an exfoliating soap,
    Such as these,
    HOW TO APPLY:
    I wash my face with the soap, and shortly after I do apply the Retin A,
    Then 20-25 min. later I will apply the Hydroquinone

    http://www.nyah-beauty.com/images/up..._107701134.gif

    Or this one, I use currently
    http://www.nyah-beauty.com/images/up...cl_essence.jpg
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:03 AM
    fairr

    mobster how weird you just gave COMPLETELY the same regime as I'm using! Haha
  • Nov 29, 2009, 06:51 AM
    mobster
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fairr View Post
    mobster how wierd you just gave COMPLETELY the same regime as im using! haha

    I think it's the most effective.

    By the way. Is it only me, or does it stink and burn sometimes,
  • Nov 29, 2009, 07:59 AM
    KB50MJ

    Thanks guys.

    Now which is a stronger does of Retin A?

    0.1

    0.05

    0.25

    0.04
  • Nov 29, 2009, 12:27 PM
    nikkicute
    0.1% is the strongest. That's the one I use.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 01:05 PM
    mobster
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkicute View Post
    0.1% is the strongest. that's the one I use.



    Yup me too agree.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 02:01 PM
    fairr

    Me too!
    Haha yeah its brning me
    Do you know what I should say as an excuse for my face peeling? :S
  • Nov 29, 2009, 04:14 PM
    KB50MJ

    Thanks guys.

    I'm really surprised how cheap that site is selling that stuff for. Its amazing.

    Now what's the lightest 4% HQ and Retin A will make me?
  • Nov 29, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    Thanks guys.

    Now which is a stronger does of Retin A?

    0.1

    0.05

    0.25

    0.04


    scale 1-4, 4 being the strongest
    0.1 - 4, strongest

    0.05 - 3

    0.04 - 2

    0.025 - 1, weakest

    I believe if you continue with your regimen of the hq/tret, it can lighten you several shades lighter maybe up to a Caucasian complexion if you continue to use for a long period. But will not depig the skin, you'll have undertones.

    Are you guys talking about the smell of the hq? Yeah, mine smells too. I'm kind of use to it now, still burns sometimes
  • Nov 29, 2009, 04:21 PM
    KB50MJ

    Also with the question above.

    How many times a day do you think I should use 4% HQ and Retin A?

    And how long will it take to work?
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:15 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    Also with the question above.

    How many times a day do you think I should use 4% HQ and Retin A?

    And how long will it take to work?

    you only need to use hq 2x a day and retin a 1x a day or everyother day, depending on your sensitivity to them. You can even use hq in the am on the days you use retin-a in the pm
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:17 PM
    mobster

    You guys are lucky,
    You can order from AlldayChemist.com

    I was just talking with them, I began cursing at them.
    How lame of them, not to ship to Denmark, Copenhagen.


    That annoys me.
    They didn't even have any reason,
    When I asked them why they could ship to
    All other countries except this one.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:22 PM
    mobster

    Look at the places I am forced to buy from

    Melalite Forte Cream 4% Hydroquinone, 30G
    Soft & Silky Texture!
    ITEM # MEL4
    $39.99 USA
    USA Add to Cart


    40 $$ :-S

    Is a joke.

    And it costs

    1.39$ when you buy from AlldayChemist.com


    Some people are just greedy
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:28 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mobster View Post
    You guys are lucky,
    You can order from AlldayChemist.com

    I was just talking with them, I began cursing at them.
    How lame of them, not to ship to Denmark, Copenhagen.


    That annoys me.
    They didnt even have any reason,
    When i asked them why they could ship to
    all other countries except this one.

    Did you really curse them out.. lol. Well, you can try contacting The Super Skin Store, they also sell hq 4% and retin-a 0.1% and they are really reliable. But, they charge at $15 per tube, but their s&h is much cheaper. They told me you'll have to have or set up a paypal account, and they are based in California. You can try contacting them and see if they can send to you in Denmark, you can see if you can work something out with them.
    http://www.sell.com/selling/SuperSkinStore/
    [email protected]
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:33 PM
    mobster
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    did you really curse them out..lol. Well, you can try contacting The Super Skin Store, they also sell hq 4% and retin-a 0.1% and they are really reliable. But, they charge at $15 per tube, but their s&h is much cheaper. They told me you'll have to have or set up a paypal account, and they are based in California. You can try contacting them and see if they can send to you in Denmark, you can see if you can work something out with them.
    sell.com classifieds : For Sale by SuperSkinStore located in Beverly Hills, CA (Los Angeles area)
    [email protected]


    Thank you so much, I will talk to them

    Yeah I did curse them out lol.

    But I don't think its fair, for the past 4 months

    I have bought the cream for 40$.

    And, how difficult can it be to ship to Denmark
    That's like the most easiest country, to ship too.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:47 PM
    Golden_Girl

    Lol.. yeah that's funny. But I probably would have done the same cause it's not fair.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:50 PM
    KB50MJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    you only need to use hq 2x a day and retin a 1x a day or everyother day, depending on your sensitivity to them. you can even use hq in the am on the days you use retin-a in the pm

    So. I can just wash my face then put the suff on.

    Now when I use the Retin A and the HQ at the same time, how long should I wait to but on the HQ after the Retin A?
  • Nov 29, 2009, 07:54 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    So. I can just wash my face then put the suff on.

    Now when I use the Retin A and the HQ at the same time, how long should I wait to but on the HQ after the Retin A?

    Wash, let skin dry. Then use a little of the retin-a or hq. if your using both at the same time (like me) wait about 10-20 min after the retin-a (at night), and then hq. others may do it differently, this is what works for me.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 10:14 PM
    KB50MJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    wash, let skin dry. then use a little of the retin-a or hq. if your using both at the same time (like me) wait about 10-20 min after the retin-a (at night), and then hq. others may do it differently, this is what works for me.

    Cool.

    Here is a pic of me with my current complexion:
    http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs203...._2483512_n.jpg

    Depending on the lighting in the room, my skin may look a tad darker. Like in this pic:
    http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs203...._4919090_n.jpg



    Now how light will this stuff make me?
  • Nov 29, 2009, 11:07 PM
    haiji

    You already look like that,complexion,like michael jackson in the bad era,you have a nice complexion,that's what I'am trying to change like your color... or as michael in the bad era...
  • Nov 29, 2009, 11:18 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Yeah, your complexion is close to mj during the 80's, you are already pretty light. Using hq/ra can reach you to your goal as long as you continue to use it, or other really good lighteners & exfoliators. So if you want to lighten 2 or 3 shades, this can easily help you reach it, along with a good sunblock. I have lightened about 2 1/2 shades w/in about 3-4 weeks and I slowed down on using it because I was getting too light too fast. I see you have the mj hairstyle too.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 11:42 PM
    KB50MJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    yeah, your complexion is close to mj during the 80's, you are already pretty light. using hq/ra can reach you to your goal as long as you continue to use it, or other really good lighteners & exfoliators. so if you want to lighten 2 or 3 shades, this can easily help you reach it, along with a good sunblock. I have lightened about 2 1/2 shades w/in about 3-4 weeks and I slowed down on using it because i was getting too light too fast. i see u have the mj hairstyle too.

    Yup. I LOVE the hair. Lol.

    So, is there anything else that I might need to know to make his successful?
  • Nov 30, 2009, 12:22 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    Yup. I LOVE the hair. lol.

    So, is there anything else that I might need to know to make his successful?

    Just stick to your regimen, keep a lookout for sensitivity or allergies (if any), use a goo sunblock w/ high spf (I have been using neutrogena spf 70 or higher now for over 1 year and it has helioplex). Limit your sun exposure, and I keep sunblock w/ me always in case I need to reapply if I'm out longer. That's all I can think of.
  • Nov 30, 2009, 01:00 AM
    KB50MJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    just stick to your regimen, keep a lookout for sensitivity or allergies (if any), use a goo sunblock w/ high spf (i have been using neutrogena spf 70 or higher now for over 1 year and it has helioplex). limit your sun exposure, and i keep sunblock w/ me always in case i need to reapply if i'm out longer. that's all i can think of.

    Well I hardly go out in the daylight. The on;y time I'm out in the daylight is when I go to school, but the sun exposure only lasts like 30 sec-1 min. tops.

    I'm a nighttime person. And I go out of my way to cover up and stay out of the sun.

    But would I still need sunblock if I hardly ever go out in the sun?

    And how bad would it effect my lightening process for being out in the sun for a few second?
  • Nov 30, 2009, 01:13 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KB50MJ View Post
    Well I hardly go out in the daylight. The on;y time I'm out in the daylight is when I go to school, but the sun exposure only lasts like 30 sec-1 min. tops.

    I'm a nighttime person. And I go out of my way to cover up and stay out of the sun.

    But would I still need sunblock if I hardly ever go out in the sun?

    And how bad would it effect my lightening process for being out in the sun for a few second?

    Yes. You do need sunblock a few secounds can affect your hard work. I even wear sun block in the HOUSE.:o
  • Nov 30, 2009, 01:33 AM
    Golden_Girl
    That's what I hear to, to wear sunblock even in the house and at night. I think because of the artificial lighting from lamps and the sunrays coming through the windows? But I'm too slack to do all of that, I have never worn sunblock indoors or when I go out at night and I have always been able to still lighten quite well.

    But, I always put sunblock on 15-20 min before I leave the house and always keep it w/ me at all times in case I need to reapply (I don't wear foundation). This makes a BIG difference on how soon and successful you'll see your results.
  • Nov 30, 2009, 03:38 AM
    KB50MJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    that's what I hear to, to wear sunblock even in the house and at night. i think because of the artificial lighting from lamps and the sunrays coming through the windows? but I'm too slack to do all of that, i have never worn sunblock indoors or when I go out at night and I have always been able to still lighten quite well.

    But, I alway put sunblock on 15-20 min before i leave the house and always keep it w/ me at all times in case i need to reapply (i dont wear foundation). this makes a BIG difference on how soon and successful you'll see your results.

    Ok. Thanks for all the info.
  • Nov 30, 2009, 02:02 PM
    Daniel Lust

    You guys seen Don the Vampire? He was on the Tyra banks show and I wonder what he uses on his skin. I'm sure it's cover up or he's always been light but he can really pass as a legit Vampire. Here's a link:

    YouTube - Tyra Investigates The Vampire Culture. Part 1
  • Nov 30, 2009, 03:15 PM
    lighterrr

    My best guess would be mono
  • Nov 30, 2009, 05:00 PM
    Golden_Girl
    I'll have to agree. He seems quite dedicated to what he wants to be (a vamp) and possibly use mono or mequinol/tretinoin... or he coul be a real vampyre :o I know it's crazy, but he is somewhat cute in a scary kind of way? Sorry


    Daniel Lust, are you a male or female? Your name is male but you have a female pic avatar, is that you?
  • Nov 30, 2009, 05:30 PM
    Daniel Lust

    No the female avatar is Olivia Munn who is an Asian-American actress/model. I just think she's really appealing and my ex girlfriend Melody looks exactly like her. Something I just can't get out of my head =( heh.

    I am male. And as for the Vampire Don yes.. he is amazing and he's written books and his facial structure is great.. very dedicated and even if people don't believe in Vampires.. it's quite all right. He definitely can pass as a real Vampire and should star in a movie of his own! I think it would be great! So mono it is! I'm sure I'd have great success.. it's just going to take a lot of work. For right now I'm set on HQ 4% and retin-A and I will definitely keep you posted on how it's helped me. I'm so glad I found this website.. I didn't even know it existed but my ex was always a fan of HQ and her skin was a bit on the yellow side. She was always obsessed with having pale skin. She grew up listening to Goth/Darkwave/EBM music and vampires were her thing haha it was cute though. She was so innocent! I miss her!

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