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  • Oct 9, 2009, 12:24 AM
    Golden_Boy
    Argghhh the Curse of Indian DARK CIRCLES! How to get rid of it?
    http://remove-dark-circles-eyes.wiki...nder%2Beye.jpg

    http://www.indiashines.com/resources...853_164814.jpg

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/20...reida_bond.jpg
  • Oct 9, 2009, 01:06 AM
    Golden_Girl

    The woman in the blue sari is so beautiful. The dark circle of the first guy needs to use cucumbers.. is that you?
  • Oct 9, 2009, 01:17 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Oh thank OK I will use cukes I guess

    Nah that's just Google pics

    But mine rather close to that just not sunken underneathe like his.

    But I want around my eyes to be light not kind of dark as they still are a little.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 01:33 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Then maybe you need something a bit stronger than cucumbers, as they will only help a bit. A strong lightening eye serum
  • Oct 9, 2009, 01:36 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Yeah Rani is so pretty doesn't she have beautiful eyes? :) That pic does her so much injustice.

    Yep I need something really strong because I want rround my eyes totally light. Right now is slight trace of redness or tan tone.

    Does anybody recommend strong lightener around eyes?

    (No mono, though!)
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:34 AM
    dessaml
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Yeah Rani is so pretty doesnt she have beautiful eyes? :) That pic does her so much injustice.

    Yep I need something really strong because I want rround my eyes totally light. Right now is slight trace of redness or tan tone.

    Does anybody recommend strong lightener around eyes?

    (No mono, though!)

    You're going to end up burning yourself... they make creams specifically for undereye circles... look into those.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:39 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Yeah I got one that's strong but it burns too much around the eyes even applied with Q-tip.

    Can someone recommend a lightening one? I keep finding eye creams but their ingredients are to clear hemoglobin not melanin/pigment.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:41 AM
    dessaml
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Yeah I got one thats strong but it burns too much around the eyes even applied with Q-tip.

    Can someone recommend a lightening one? I keep finding eye creams but their ingredients are to clear hemoglobin not melanin/pigment.

    Epicuren?
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:53 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Epicuren eye lightener? U tried that? Or...
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:56 AM
    dessaml
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    epicuren eye lightener? u tried that? or...

    No, I don't have under eye circles, but I see it marketed in a lot of places, so maybe it works?:confused:
  • Oct 9, 2009, 10:18 AM
    mysterious5
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Yeah Rani is so pretty doesnt she have beautiful eyes? :) That pic does her so much injustice.

    Yep I need something really strong because I want rround my eyes totally light. Right now is slight trace of redness or tan tone.

    Does anybody recommend strong lightener around eyes?

    (No mono, though!)



    I got dark circles too. The only thing that helped was that damn bioclaire. It made my overall face so nice and even toned. Then it gave me dark spots, so I wouldn't recommend. I've been to the dermatologist and they said theirs nothing I can do (dumb lady even told me to put chapstick under my eyes), but I think a good cream that helps to even tone, not just lighten the skin is the key. Currently searching for that cream, I will keep you updated. Tonique sounds good but very pricey. One testomonial on the Powerwhite said it helped fade her dark circles.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:47 PM
    EggoMini

    I have major circles too. I just use concealer.

    Drinking more water, doing some delicate massage and sleeping enough are the best help so far but mine never totally disappear.. . gah, I've tried so many products but it's been a joke so far.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:14 PM
    Golden_Girl
    I don't have dark circles, but makari night crème made my skin very even and light. Still pricey, but half the cost of Tonique. I would have considered using Toniqe if they weren't so expensive, they would have to be much cheaper than makari, I doubt I would pay any higher than that.

    Mysterious your dermatologist acually suggested to rub chapstick under your eyes? What the heck is that supposed to do?

    But, I'll look around at ratings and post if I find some things.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 10:23 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    I don't have dark circles, but makari night creme made my skin very even and light. .

    Hey sis!

    Which, the night cream or the body milk? Im going to assume the night cream of course but just want to make sure. I can't wait to get mine.

    But I have to :(
  • Oct 9, 2009, 10:26 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mysterious5 View Post
    ithat damn bioclaire. it made my overall face so nice and even toned. then it gave me dark spots, so i wouldnt recommend. .


    Oh that's for the heads up. Yes I'm going to avoid creams that give brown spots afterward like HQ or cortisteroid cremes.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 11:35 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Hey sis!!

    Which, the night cream or the body milk? Im going to assume the night cream of course but just want to make sure. I can't wait to get mine.

    But i have to :(

    I used the night crème bro, I never tried the milk because from what I was reading it was just as effective as otentika but cost way more. So, I stuck with the night crème since it lightened me very well and quickly on my face. By the 2nd week, there was a big difference in lightening on my arms and hands. Wish I could just buy a tub of that stuff for dirt cheap.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 11:50 PM
    Golden_Boy

    Heheh sis that's some fast, awesome progress!

    I know you don't have problems there like I do but did you put Makari up close around your eyes by any chance?

    I'm either going to put Makari around my eyes, or even try putting 10% arbutin in makari/tretinoin base cream around my eyes if 10% doesn't burn too much that sensitive area as a previous answerer warned not to end up doing.
  • Oct 10, 2009, 12:37 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Well unsure if I was supposed to or not, I applied it under my eyes and a little on my eyelids, closed my eyes and ubbed it in. Used it to cover every inch of my face as I did not want the "raccoon eye" look. Also applied it of course to the ears and behind them, neck, chin, etc so that the lightening looks very natural. It did not burn. But, for the tret and all the rest I am unsure, different story perhaps.
  • Oct 10, 2009, 03:21 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MAHARANI View Post
    GoldenBoy,

    If you are anything like me, you are going to find it really difficult to get good results. Like you, the standard eye cream, gel, vitamin K preparation etc does nothing for me.

    In my case I believe it is more of a pigmentation problem along with the fact that I have thin skin which highlights veins, exacerbating the problem.

    So what has helped me....

    OLD herbalinn fairness cream...No longer available

    Rosa skin care..........Continually out of stock for a year now

    Rootsherbal treatment.........have to make up a mask, apply it, then remove when dry which I found to be quite time consuming and as you have to do it at night, was not always religious about doing it.

    crystal clear.....immediate results initially but very expensive and would have to do regularly to maintain results
    .


    Sometimes I would see results from using other lightening creams but would only last a day or so maybe, then would revert baack the next day.


    Thanks Maharani! Sounds like a case of 'old is gold' with herbalin & rosa! :(

    What were the ingredients in those? I hadn't heard of crystal clear -- sounds promising!

    Off to Google, thanks again mate, cheers! :)
  • Oct 10, 2009, 04:42 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MAHARANI View Post
    herbalinn was suppposedly B3 niacinmide and vitamins C and E, I think, but was simply too good to be just that.


    Thanks Maharani, you're so experienced! Niacinamide is same thing as B3 so yeah, that's just three vitamins LOL so they probably had murcery or who knows what!

    Rosa looks great what a shame its sold out all the time!

    Will update if something starts working, seriously I want to get round my eyes totally light its my only problem area head to toe now.

    :)
  • Oct 10, 2009, 09:15 PM
    mysterious5
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    I don't have dark circles, but makari night creme made my skin very even and light. Still pricey, but half the cost of Tonique. I would have considered using Toniqe if they werent so expensive, they would have to be much cheaper than makari, I doubt I would pay any higher than that.

    Mysterious your dermatologist acually suggested to rub chapstick under your eyes? what the heck is that supposed to do?

    But, I'll look around at ratings and post if I find some things.


    Yea, that silly doc really told me that. She said it was something to do with moisture. Another doc told me it could be sinus problems-better advice than damn chapstick though. Lol, I tried it though out of desperation.

    I got the free sample makari which lasted about 4 days or so, seemed to make my skin a bit brighter. But I'm thinking of investing in it again...
  • Oct 11, 2009, 12:02 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mysterious5 View Post
    yea, that silly doc really told me that. she said it was something to do with moisture. another doc told me it could be sinus problems-better advice than damn chapstick tho. lol, i tried it tho out of desperation.

    i got the free sample makari which lasted about 4 days or so, seemed to make my skin a bit brighter. but i'm thinking of investing in it again....

    Yeah that doc was silly indeed to mention something she had already explained she did not know the answer to.
  • Oct 12, 2009, 12:54 PM
    DarkSkinGirl
    A good bleaching cream like hydroquinone will get rid of them, and some retin A.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 06:43 PM
    imgorgeous

    Sorry but I have seen both Rani Mukherjee - th lady in blue sari and Kajol wihtout makeup...


    And according to me they both look horrendous..
  • Oct 14, 2009, 10:11 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by imgorgeous View Post
    Sorry but I have seen both Rani Mukherjee - th lady in blue sari and Kajol wihtout makeup...


    and according to me they both look horrendous.. !

    Imgorgeous you are a dishonest person and not reliable at all. You said you was going to show me your before and after long time and asked for my email so you could "send it to my email" too, and you have done nothing but be dishonest and stal. You did not show me jack and only beat around the bush.

    Same goes for Haiji with the exact issues. Dishonest, dishonest, dishonest... Shame on you both, up to no good and think it's funny.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:09 PM
    Golden_Boy

    ^ You tell 'em, sis! :)

    LOL "gorgeous":
    This thread is about dark circles, NOT a beauty contest.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:12 PM
    shazamataz

    Eck! Dark circles, I know them too well!

    Here's a site that details many of the causes of under eye circles (everything from thinning skin and sun damage to iron deficiency)

    And it also gives some great tips on how to get rid of them (including vitamin K creams, cucumbers to cutting back on sodium in your diet)

    Dark Circles Under Eyes - What Can I Do About Dark Circles Under The Eyes
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:15 PM
    Golden_Boy

    Thanks Shaz, my circles are a mostly a brown pigment probably, but for lighterskin peoples yes its usually thinning skin, sun damage, etc

    Nice poodle. :)
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:16 PM
    shazamataz

    Thanks :)
    From your picture it didn't appear to me to be skin color as such is all... It appears to have a slight bluish/purple tint which made me think blood vessels etc... maybe it's just my monitor.
  • Oct 14, 2009, 11:18 PM
    shazamataz

    Oh sorry, I could have sworn I read that the first picture was of you... now I have read back you said it was a Google pic... ignore me :rolleyes:

    :)
  • Oct 15, 2009, 04:27 PM
    Golden_Boy

    Sorry I fooled you Shaz.

    I've used eye cream before and it did nothing for the darkness. It seems I have very strong melanocytes around my eyes, genetically. Well us indians are notorious for that.
  • Oct 15, 2009, 05:35 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shazamataz View Post
    Eck! Dark circles, I know them too well!

    Here's a site that details many of the causes of under eye circles (everything from thinning skin and sun damage to iron deficiency)

    And it also gives some great tips on how to get rid of them (including vitamin K creams, cucumbers to cutting back on sodium in your diet)

    Dark Circles Under Eyes - What Can I Do About Dark Circles Under The Eyes

    Hey Shaz, do you know anything that's good for bags under the eyes? I sometimes have them when I don't get enough rest and cucumbers sometimes just is not enough.
  • Oct 17, 2009, 03:11 AM
    Golden_Boy

    http://www.amitbhawani.com/health/Im...-Surgery-1.jpg


    In case she don't reply...

    Get Rid of Eye Bags ?
  • Oct 17, 2009, 05:23 AM
    shazamataz

    Hey Golden Girl,

    I always keep a couple of tea bags in the refrigerator in a shallow glass of water if I know I'm going to be having some late nights. (glug glug :p)

    I just lay back and put the cold moist tea bags over my eyes for maybe 5-10 minutes and it really reduces the baggyness.
    The antioxidants in the tea as well as them just being nice and cool do wonders (even if you look a bit strange) ;)
  • Oct 17, 2009, 10:04 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shazamataz View Post
    Hey Golden Girl,

    I always keep a couple of tea bags in the refrigerator in a shallow glass of water if I know I'm going to be having some late nights. (glug glug :p)

    I just lay back and put the cold moist tea bags over my eyes for maybe 5-10 minutes and it really reduces the baggyness.
    The antioxidants in the tea as well as them just being nice and cool do wonders (even if you look a bit strange) ;)

    What kind of tea bags, is it green tea? Once in awhile I get the bags, they are not very noticeable and are rare. But, I notice them.


    Thanks goldenboy for the link, I'll check it out.
  • Oct 25, 2009, 05:36 AM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    What kind of tea bags, is it green tea? once in awhile I get the bags, they are not very noticeable and are rare. but, I notice them.


    thanks goldenboy for the link, I'll check it out.

    Sorry for the late reply...

    I just use ordinary tea, not green, although I'm sure green would probaby have the same effect if not better. I'm a big tea drinker so I just use the bags in my drink (before adding sugar and milk) and then put the used ones in a cup of water in the fridge, saves money that way (I'm a tight arse haha)
    Had to do that over the weekend due to some self inflicted tiredness :rolleyes:
  • Oct 25, 2009, 12:15 PM
    Golden_Girl
    OK thanks.
  • Nov 16, 2009, 02:21 PM
    sweetcaroline

    Probably the only thing that would work for prominent veins under your eyes is laser, to shrink or burn them away
  • Nov 16, 2009, 05:23 PM
    Golden_Girl
    I agree with SweetCaroline. Laser Treatment and Sclerotherapy are used to treat veins.
    http://www.veindirectory.org/content/spider_veins.asp
    http://www.womenshealth.gov/faq/vari...ider-veins.cfm
    http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/bo...g/spider-vein/
    http://www.plasticsurgery.org/Patien...der_Veins.html

    For wrinkles there is retin-a (tretinoin) which is the acid form of vitamin A and is used to help improve the appearance of wrinkles, to treat acne, scars, etc. and it comes in the following strengths 0.025%, 0.05%, and 0.1%
    http://www.dermadoctor.com/article_R...Creams_63.html
    http://www.reviewsantiaging.com/reti...d-of-wrinkles/
    http://www.everydayhealth.com/skin-a...nti-aging.aspx
    http://www.mothernature.com/Library/...ooks/44/67.cfm

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