If you know a good one please tell me even the ones that don't lighten but exfoliate really well! Thank you

I also want to know why the mods keep deleting my damn threads I don't think its right. Millions of bio claire and mono threads are created everyday but when I make a thread about soap it gets deleted? So not fair!

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I also wanna know why the mods keep deleting my damn threads I don't think its right. Millions of bio claire and mono threads are created everyday but when I make a thread about soap it gets deleted? So not fair!

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Really? That's strange... but to answer your question the soaps that are quite good, in my opinion, are Papaya Kojic Soap (Diana Stalder or Likas). This help exfoliate my skin really well and lighten when used with a good skin lightener, and removes the dead skin cells. Swiss L-Glutathione soap is good too, but I never used it yet. I also used the L-glutathione soap by Diana Stalder but I think it's OK as I like papaya kojic soap better. You get better results when you let the soap suds dry and sit on the skin for a few minutes and then rinse off. And don't forget the sunscreen.

What lightening cream are you using?

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Really? That's strange...but to answer your question the soaps that are quite good, in my opinion, are Papaya Kojic Soap (Diana Stalder or Likas). This help exfoliate my skin really well and lighten when used with a good skin lightener, and removes the dead skin cells. Swiss L-Glutathione soap is good too, but I never used it yet. I also used the L-glutathione soap by Diana Stalder but I think it's ok as I like papaya kojic soap better. You get better results when you let the soap suds dry and sit on the skin for a few minutes and then rinse off. And don't forget the sunscreen.

What lightening cream are you using?

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Thanks so much for your response but I had a horrible experience with kojic acid soap lol although it got rid of acne and somewhat cleared my complexion, it burned the heck out of my skin

Yeah the soap is acidic as it peels the old layer of the skin. Have you tried something more gentle like black soap, l-glutathione soap, or licorice soap. These soaps won't sting and are more gentle but help lighten in a different way when used along with a good crème or lotion.

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Yeah the soap is acidic as it peels the old layer of the skin. Have you tried something more gentle like black soap, l-glutathione soap, or licorice soap. These soaps won't sting and are more gentle but help lighten in a different way when used along with a good creme or lotion.

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I'm really considering getting the soap and I have a question. Every time you use it does your skin peel? When you use it for a while does your skin get use to it? And I'm talking about the kojic by the way lol thanks.

Good question. I doubt the skin sheds every time you you use papaya kojic soap, but I' not sure how long it takes for the top layer of the skin to shed. But, it helps speed up the process of the sheddig of dead and old skin cells. Yes, as you continue using it, your kin will become used to it and the stinging will stop. For me the stinging stopped within about 1.5-2 weeks of using it, and then everything was fine.

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Good question. I doubt the skin sheds every time you you use papaya kojic soap, but I' not sure how long it takes for the top layer of the skin to shed. But, it helps speed up the process of the sheddig of dead and old skin cells. Yes, as you continue using it, your kin will become used to it and the stinging will stop. For me the stinging stopped within about 1.5-2 weeks of using it, and then everything was fine.

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OK!. so for this soap you can only get them only online or just any Beauty Supplies Store around... and for this Black Soap is that the African one and the Papaya Soap where can u get them

The Diana Stalder papaya kojic soap I purchase from eBay from 2 different sellers. Amazon also sells it too. And I purchased it also from a shop online but I can't remember the name. It's made in the Philippines, I haven't seen a store in my town that sells it. All sellers do not sell the original, some are mixed with other unknown ingredients so I just stick with the Diana Stalder brand.

Another good brand is Likas papaya soap (I don't know if it has kojic acid in it). I haven't tried it yet, but it's known to work really well too. I'm unsure if it's sold in local stores, but it can be purchased online.

I buy the Nubian Heritage black soap, it has oats and a lot of shea butter in it. This doesn't help lighten or peel the skin, but helps with discoloration and acne and smells really nice. I have purchased this online on amazon.com and in my local beauty store. The Diana Stalder brand also sell black soap and other types, but just the papaya kojic and the l-glutathione soaps I have used from them. The Dudu Osun is another really good brand that I will try later this year, it's a "black" soap but is really dark brown.

So I'll pm you the places I bought the papaya kojic soap.

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The Diana Stalder papaya kojic soap I purchase from ebay from 2 different sellers. Amazon also sells it too. And I purchased it also from a shop online but I can't remember the name. It's made in the Philipines, I havent seen a store in my town that sells it. All sellers do not sell the original, some are mixed with other unknown ingredients so I just stick with the Diana Stalder brand.

Another good brand is Likas papaya soap (I don't know if it has kojic acid in it). I havent tried it yet, but it's known to work really well too. I'm unsure if it's sold in local stores, but it can be purchased online.

I buy the Nubian Heritage black soap, it has oats and alot of shea butter in it. This doesnt help lighten or peel the skin, but helps with discoloration and acne and smells really nice. I have purchased this online on amazon.com and in my local beauty store. The Diana Stalder brand also sell black soap and other types, but just the papaya kojic and the l-glutathione soaps I have used from them. The Dudu Osun is another really good brand that I will try later this year, it's a "black" soap but is really dark brown.

So I'll pm you the places I bought the papaya kojic soap.

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Thank You so much... t'was so nice of u... so I can use it with Bio Claire products rite... I have never tried this kind of new in all this..

No prob. Yes, last year I started using the Papaya kojic soap w/ the Bio Claire cream for about a month. Then, switched to Makari night cream w/ the Papaya kojic soap. Now, I haven't bee trying to lighten much except for the acne spots on my face and maintain what little results I have left by using the rest of my bio claire crème, black soap, and microdermabrasion. At least until I find something better... because from what I have been reading, Bio claire adds other "hidden" ingredients in their mix, with evidence. Be careful putting Bio Claire on the body as it does thin the skin and can cause stretch marks. I read that some people use Palmer's lotion to avoid the stretch marks, I'm unsure if that works or not. Also, if you want to see my before and fter picts during my regimines here the link (at the bottom of page) https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...-384032-2.html

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No prob. Yes, last year I started off using the Papaya kojic soap w/ the Bio Claire cream for about a month. Then, switched to Makari night cream w/ the Papaya kojic soap. Now, I havent bee trying to lighten much except for the acne spots on my face and maintain what little results I have left by using the rest of my bio claire creme, black soap, and microdermabrasion. At least until I find something better...because from what I have been reading, Bio claire adds other "hidden" ingredients in their mix, with evidence. Be careful putting Bio Claire on the body as it does thin the skin and can cause stretch marks. I read that some people use Palmer's lotion to avoid the stretch marks, I'm unsure if that works or not. Also, if you want to see my before and fter picts during my regimines here the link (at the bottom of page) https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...-384032-2.html

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Thanks!. Hun!. u so very nice so is this Bio Claire been banned... neway your pics are so cool!. beautiful as ever

Aaaaawwww Davonte44 your so sweet. Thanks so much for your kind words. That is the complexion I would loooove to maintain.

About the Bio Claire, from what I have read so far, it is being banned in certain countries... maybe the list is growing? Because I see that Bio Claire has lied about their ingredients, as they had held back information to their customers... and they don't write back to their customers either :rolleyes: So, I'm really trying to find something that works wonders and doesn't leave holes in my pockets..


I'll be sending you a message to anser your question

Thank You again... u in the state also rite... :)

Clear essence alpha hydroxy soap. It's fairly cheap too. I think I bought mine for around 6 dollars.

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Clear essence alpha hydroxy soap. It's fairly cheap too. I think I bought mine for around 6 dollars.

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Thanks Browndeceit, what are the main ingredients in the soap? What crème is good to help lighten the complexion along with this?

Hey, I've been having really good success with Diana Stalder Glutathione Soap, Papaya Kojic Soap and Black Beauty Bar.

I would say the Kojic bar works the best because I can see my skin peeling EVERY TIME I USE IT.

The glutathione bar, I've been using and it seems like it doesn't really work sadly because I think it has the most hype.

The Black Beauty Bar works really well on skin that has PEELED. For example, I'll bathe with the Glutathione soap or the Papaya Kojic soap, let the soaps sit for as long as you can stand and rinse those soaps off then wash with the black beauty bar and I noticed that about twice as much skin peeled than with the Glutathione Soap and maybe about 1.5 times more than the Papaya soap.

It sucks that you can't use the papaya soap because I feel it works best and in order for it to work it has to sit a while which doesn't sound the best for you.

Overall, I'd recommend you use the Glutathione Soap and the Black Beauty Bar and if you want, some lightening creams and lotions.

And remember to use sunscreen! T hat is KEY.

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Thanks Browndeceit, what are the main ingredients in the soap? What creme is good to help lighten the complexion along with this?

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I'm sorry sweetie! I threw the box out last week. But here's the soap. Maybe you can Google it and still try and find the ingredients? I'm going to the store later on today when it's daylight. So I'll take a glance at the main ingredients then. But for now. Here's the link

Clear Essence Complexion Soap with Alpha Hydroxy Acid 5oz

OK, thanks. I'll try the link and see if I can fnid the list online.

Could you tell us if either of you find the ingredients?:)

Here are both of the ingredients for the Clear Essence Complexion Soap with Alpha Hydroxy Acid

Ingredients: Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate/Sodium Palm Kemelate, Water, (Aqua), Glycerin, Fragrance, (Parfum), Titanium Dioxide, Sodium Chloride, Lactic Acid (An Alpha Hydroxy Acid), Tetrasodium Etidronate, Pentasodium Penetate, D & C Yellow # 10, FD&C Blue # 1

Lactic acid- AHA, really good.
Sodium Tallowate-lye and beef fat
Sodium cocoate-lye and coconut oil
Titanium Dioxide-natural whitener and sunscreen
Tetrasodium Etidronate and Pentasodium Penetate-are water softeners
Glycerin-attracts moisture to the skin