Emergency. African female. Has terrible skin. Needs help. Is bio claire the way to go or fair and white?
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Emergency. African female. Has terrible skin. Needs help. Is bio claire the way to go or fair and white?
read the info about bio claire on top of the first page,,there are lots of reviewss on it, might help.
Kpangor!!
Where have u been redbone!! lol
I missed u warning people...
I thought u gave up on us hard headed folks...
Bioclair isn't a safe product the reason being the product contains hydroquinone which isn't safe doctors are saying usage of lotions that have HQ often lead to skin cancer also once you discontinue using a product that contains HQ your skin ends up being very dark, darker then usual and most people end up having dark pimples all over their face. If I were you I wouldn't use bioclair good luck finding a safe product that works for you.
Hq hasn't hurt me or given me dark spots. Perhaps Im lucky.
I think u should give it a shot for at least 3 weeks I can't see it harming u in 3 weeks.
Hey mepk5..
Lollll I am expecting my first baby so I am kind of busy, but I come on here once in a while.. hope yr doing fine
Hey mepk5 is hq working for you ?
By the way... what's with you.. you don't seem to talk to me anymore??
Is it because I didn't show you more pics ?
I mean common I think I have shown the most pics of myself to you than anyone on any forum... so I hope that's not the reason...
Besides I'm not even fibbing that the products are not working for me.. so where is the hitch ?
Hey u was having unprotected sex?! Im happy for u. After the baby u will leave us & go to the diet & weight loss section? Lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kpangor
Hey I knew you was having a visitor. You seemed preoccupied & didn't answer my email so I figured you are busy.Quote:
Originally Posted by imgorgeous
Did are friend test the mono yet? I think I found something that might help the cheetah girl!:cool:
Bahaaahaaa... hell yahhh married for 2 years now its about that time for a baby.. and no I won't go to the weight loss section!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mepk5
All right,, I'll hunt u down... lol
Congrats! How your skin? Break outs?
Dod u have to do anything different cause of the hormones?
Luckily.. my pregnancy hasn't cost me any skin problems, some say its because I am carring a boy ahahhh
OK do you want to go really light
Ow well den imma give yuh my lightening secret
This will make you like 4 shades lighter in a wekk if you do it proply na d consistently
. Oright get yourself bio claire lotion and the oil and mix it in a tub and then you will need 1 other maxi light oil and hot movate gel mix all this together in a tub
And store in tha frigde over night
The next morning get yourself a lemon
Squezze it into a cup dip your finger in and apply the lemon liquid to your face and neck leave on until it dries
Then wash off
Now apply your lightening lotion to your body
At lease twice through the day when it gets to night time
Here's da trick
Apply it thickly on your legs and arms
And neck
And then get some glad wrap and wrap it
Over those area
Easliy
Don't apply the glad wrap to your face though
And then aplly it thick on your face
And go to sleep with your face facing upwards
And make sure you put on socks over the toes
In the morning you will wake up don't take it of until it gets to about 11:50
Go to the bath tub fill it wif really warm water
And take all that stuff of
And lay in da tub
All your dead skin wiff come of and
Your skin will be so light
Do this about one whole week
Straight
And I swear you will notice results
But please stay out of the sun because then your skin will only reproduce more melanin
After you get to your desired result
Only do this twice a week
And the rest of the week normally apply the cream to the body softly
This will maintain the color
Anywas I do this and I went so light
That its so noticeable
Like
Because I went from trey songs color to a bit lighter then chris brown... Anyway try this people I swear by it
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by mepk5
I saw on a website that bio claire sell a cream that doesn't contain hydroquinone as well.. im thinking of getting it... well see...Quote:
Originally Posted by ornella
Although bio claire claim to not contain hq on their labels, they have been tested by authorities to contain 0.06%. Which isn't much.. but still too much to lie to their customers for those who do not like hq, they deceive. I asked them about this but they refuse to respond. I see nothing wrong w/ hq when used properly and isn't for everyone, but if a product contains it, they should be honest and tell the truth.
WOW are you seriously... why all the lies... as far as I know having little of something doesn't not equal none... I used fair and handsome lol I know its for guys but they say that one is made to get through tuff male skin so it should be good for my african american skin... im about ciara's color originally... it smoothed my skin but no drastic results... I would probably have to use it s for a whole year or something... and it doesn't have HQ... so I'm now on Carolight.. its benn 3month.. not bad.. kinda slow but I'm sticking with it... wat are you using Golden_Girl?Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden_Girl
Yeah, I agree. I have heard of fair & handsome, the Indian brand right? I have seen their commercials on YouTube where Shah Rukh Khan is spokesmodel. Does it work? The commercials are insulting..Quote:
Originally Posted by Caramel1989
I'm on nadinola, retin-a, neutrogena grapefruit facial scrub. How is the Carolight and active ingredients?
Yeah it's the Indian one... the commercial is so harsh I know... very insulting! It kind of works but I think it would take continued use for like 10month at least to get 2-3 shade lighter... atleast there's no HQ though. About Caro light... I thought it was working a bit.. but I just went into an elevator with mirros (im at work) and my skin looks so light today... so I think its starting to work faster with the baking soda... it has HQ in it though so I might be switching to fair and hadsome again.. atleast its made for indian skin.. I use the male one so it can be stronger...Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden_Girl
Wow 10 months is so long, we can reach our goals much sooner w/ other products. 2-3 shades can be achieved in 1.5-3 months. That is always a good feeling when we see the fruits of our labour through the means of mirrors... great invention, and of course our curious observers.. lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caramel1989
Are you able to lighten most of the body? Or only the face, neck and arms?
Are you talking to me? Lol I'm not even sure but if you are.. I only do my face... the rest of my body is pretty even and about 4shades lighter.. like my body is light golden yellow like rihanna.. but my face is more caramel/yellow... like raven or ciara type... so if I just get my face yellow.. it will look natural because the rest of my body is not blotchy and its my natural colouring. I don't want to lighten my body because I'm afraid that then it will start to become sensitive and then get dark... even in the summer my body stays yellow.. weird and its always exposed.. (ok not all my body is exposed LOOL but you know what I mean)
I see, then that is good that you are already close to your goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caramel1989
For me, my face has almost lightened up t the same tone as my upper body, maybe in a few more weeks it will match. My upper body is lighter than the lower body.. except for my face became so tanned. It would be nice for it to match again, also working on removing any blotchiness and scars. Then from there, I want to maintain a shade of Beyonce.
That's a good goal.. beyonce has a really nice skin tone. Like which celebrity are u like now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden_Girl
I would say like Jill ScottQuote:
Originally Posted by Caramel1989
That's a nice skin tone! Its definitely realistic to go from there to beyonce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden_Girl
Thanks.but that's what my face has lightened to so far,it was like Toni Braxton's before. I'm thinking the challenging part may be with the maintaining... then again maybe that will be the easiest part.. lol
GOLDENGIRL, uve always been my role model but I'm surprised that your using Nadinola. Whadd has been up with you lately girl? Da last time I checked one of the brands of Nadinola contains (uve got to really hear this one) AMMONIATED MERCURY. I ran out of da store in full force screaming "NO, NO, NOOOOOOOO..." So which brand of the Naddy are you using, and how does it smell?
PLEASE do not use chat speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by darcskin
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Hey Darcskin, where did you here this that Nadinola contains mercury? Can you please provide me with the links? I have read several articles of products containing mercury, but Nadinola was omitted and not listed as one of these. I'll further check and post my findings here, but Nadinola Extra Strength does contain 3% Hq and I have been using hq for about 3.5 months now. I do know that Hq products are listed on several articles that are against the use of hq, mercury, and steroids. But, hq 4% are prescribed by dermatologists here in the U.S. to patients along with the recommendation of an exfoliant, and is safe to use for 6 months or less per areas and when used properly. It has more of an old-fashioned smell, for me it smells OK and decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by darcskin
GG, where do you buy your NADINOLA from. The one I saw in a beauty supply store in NJ is made in the country of Jamaica (correct?) and one of its ingredients is Ammoniated mercury. Where is your Nadinola made?
Yeah I know... if you use a product that doesn't have HQ for your maintaining part, it should be good because well have to go through summer tans so it should balance out. Its not like we can get to a white persons color by continuing our use of product... theres a certain maximum color one get get too I would think. So far my Caro light has really been working coupled with baking soda exfoliant. I compared my face with the rest of my body and there is about 1-2 shade difference.. it use to be about 4shades... Im waiting on my 55H crystalline and cream though. I wanted to switch to a product with no HQ so that I can use it forever pretty much. I hope it won't distrupt how far I've come with Caro light though :s.. I guess ill take a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Golden_Girl
Hi, OK, so I hate to be a spoiler, but there are some things you should know about bio claire. First of all, I started using it 2 days ago, I'm naturally light, but just needed to get rid of an uneven tan, so appearently the cream and soap worked super fast for me, I only put it on the tanned spots and in 2 days, I was all the same light colour. I figured this was kind of strange for a product that's supposed to be all natural, it has mulberry and berberry , kojic acid, and a few other natural lighteners, however, all of these according to dermatologists take weeks, and in cases with just the arbutin, months to lighten 2/3 shades, and here this worked in just 2 days.
Firstly it's made in africa, so law wise, they can get away with not putting all the ingredients on the label, basically what I found out is that the company did a voluntary recall on 2 products, I think it was, last year, see below for the reasons:
RECALL INFORMATION
Feb 13---Bio Claire recalls Natural Bio-vegetal Activator BODY LOTION---Ireland
Manufacturer: See Below
Product: Home
Start Date: 2009-02-13 End Date: 2009-03-13
Product: Lightening body lotion without hydroquinone – Natural Bio-vegetal Activator
Brand: Bio Claire
Type/number of model: P:05/08 E:05/11 082657 “S3”
Description: White 8” (200ml) high container with white screw-top lid.
Country of origin: Ivory Coast
Chemical
The product poses a chemical risk because it contains 0.06% of hydroquinone.
The product does not comply with the Cosmetics Directive 76/768/EEC.
Voluntary withdrawal from the market and recall from consumers.
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Lightening body cream without hydroquinone
25-Jul-2009
Details
Brand: Bio Claire
Type/number of model: P13/02/03 NFI 011285 E 12/02/06 NPC, 30 g
Description: White tube with white cap in white box.
Country of origin: France
Danger
Chemical
The product poses a chemical risk because it contains glucocorticosteroid and clobetasolpropionate 0,029%.
The product does not comply with the Cosmetics Directive 76/768/EEC.
Action Taken
Voluntary stop of sales and withdrawal from the market by a distributor.
Source: European Commission RAPEX (11-0962-09)
Category: Cosmetics
On: 25-Jul-2009
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Now you'll notice even though one of the reasons stated is .06% HQ and clobetasol proprionate 0.029%. That's not enough to cause so much lightening so fast, however you'll also notice that it has glucocorticosteroid.
So yeah, basically it contains steroids, the side effects of topical steroids include acne, thin skin and red patches, here is the list of side effects from the journal of The American Academy of Dermatology:
" The most frequent adverse effects include atrophy, striae, rosacea, perioral dermatitis, acne, and purpura. Those that occur with lower frequency include hypertrichosis, pigmentation alterations, delayed wound healing, and exacerbation of skin infections. Of particular interest is the rate of contact sensitization against corticosteroids, which is considerably higher than generally believed. Systemic reactions such as hyperglycemia, glaucoma, and adrenal insufficiency have also been reported to follow topical application." ---http://www.eblue.org/article/S0190-9622(05)00255-0/abstract
So at the end of it all, I think that if you want something that works and works fast, then that's bio claire, but there are serious side effects to your health and it can mess up your skin as well, I think if your going to use it, you should probably go with once a day, the risk of these effects decrease with the amount of steroid you're exposed to, so maybe once a day use the cream and the soap, use that as normal, wear sunblock and after you've lightened up a bit, go to everyother day or less, also be aware that you'll bruise easier, as your skin is thinner, and bio claire has cause stripes/ stretch marks to develop
Salirah, yes rubbing bio claire is the equivalent to rubbing battery car acid on the face and body.
Caramel1989, that's really good that you are seeing results from Carolight. Do you know how much hq it contains?
Darcskin, I double checked and L'Oreal Nadinola products are free of any form of mercury or steroids. It contains 3% hq, more than the required ovt amount but is a dermatological amount (for those who do not like hq). The one you saw is a counterfit and copying of names in order to make sells and shsould be avoided, nor is it supposed to be made in Jamaica, that is a counterfit.
Original L'Oreal Nadinola Skin Discoloration Fade Cream must be manufactured and exported from only Strickland & Co. in Olive Branch, Mississippi, U.S. which is a respectful company. What oyur referring to is Jamaican Nadinola which is a separate product of it's own manufacture from a different company with no affilation. The Jamainca Nadinola's complete name is
De Luxe Nadinola Bleaching Cream awhich does post "3% ammonium mercury" and is a 100% Jamaican product:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47392064@N06/4343903089/
And shoudn't be confused with the L'Oreal Nadinola Skin Discoloration Fade Cream, Extra Strength Formula made in MS, U.S.:
http://img.walgreens.com/dbimagecach..._155x155_a.jpg
Thanks for mentioning this, so that others will realize they are not the same thing.
They are two separate products with similar name, but are not the same. I'm surprised they would actually post this on the front cover as thoguh that is a good thing.
.. sorry repost
Ohh My God GOLDEN G, thank God I ran away from the store as soon I saw mecury in the Naddy's label. I was afraid I'ld be tempted to buy it in spite of the mercury. I remembered the warning my Irish boyfriend/husband gave me that if I used anymore "stinky" product, he's going to move out for good! But before I ran out of the store though, I had dipped 2 fingers into the Naddy jar and the smell that came out was so horrendous. (sorry for the bad English) But, oh, what can I do - I proceeded to massage the Naddy cream on my 2 hands. And then I ran out of the store. And here's my personal test to know if a product truly contains Mercury and other illegal stuffs: When I fell asleep that night, I started to have nightmares in which I was moaning out loudly. I woke up to the sound of my loud wailings. It's the price I have to pay for lighter skin. So ladies, if you are having nightmares at night, it might be a sign that your skin product has been "TOUCHED". That's all I can say to avoid lawsuits. And to GoldenGirl, your alwayz my hero (hope you know that). Kisses and love. Bye girlz.
It's good that you didn't get it. You opened it to smell it and having nightmares... laughing out loudly. Thanks Darcskin, yeah that put a smile on my face.
Here's a link to some skin lightening solutions, and clarification on what works and what doesn't and what's dangerous: Google Answers: which skin whitening product really work
Also inregards to what I said earlier, about if you really want to use, stick to once a day... well maybe you should'nt even do that, topical steroids can also suppress immune system functions, cause cushings syndrome etc read below, and for more info, just follow the link at the end :
Local side effects
The most common side effects occur locally in the areas of skin treated with the steroid. Probably the most well known is thinning of the skin (atrophy), which sometimes results in permanent stretch marks (striae). Fine blood vessels may swell and become prominent under the skin surface (telangiectasia), again a permanent change. There may be a temporary loss of pigment in the areas of skin treated; this may be more noticeable in dark-skinned people. Sometimes the skin may become allergic to the steroid, making the eczema appear to get worse. The skin may also bruise more easily and become more susceptible to infection. For this reason topical steroids should never be used to treat inflamed skin that is also infected, unless the infection is also being treated.
Topical corticosteroids
Yeah, I remember reading those two sites before and taking note on there. Really a good read.
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