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  • Apr 18, 2009, 11:26 AM
    weezing
    Skin whitening/lightening.THE SAFE WAY! Join the natural movement.
    Ok this thread is for all people using safe and natural products who are willing to keep the board members updated with their results. If you use Bio Claire or anything that contains hydroquinone, mercury, or any other harmful ingredients, this thread is NOT FOR YOU! If your are using a product and you are unsure about the ingredients, post the ingredients here and I along with other concerned members will do research on the ingredients. People are tired of using products that are putting their health at risk unknowingly (amazingly some don't even care, they just want to be white/lighter) and today we are going to end this!

    After my sitaution with Bio Claire I decided to go natural and I'm glad I did!
    Starting Monday I will be using gluta-blend soap (a soap that is blended with kojic acid, glutathione, and rosehip oil. It is also good at exfoliating and micropeeling) and istant skin whitening effect lotion ( a lotion that contain high dosage of kojic acid and glutathion as well as rosehip oil and other safe ingredients) and will update you on my progress. I was kind of concerned about the high dosage of kojic acid in the lotion but I searched for reviews on the product and users have seeing amazing results. Although the results were not instant ( 1 1/2 weeks before they seen results) they seen amazing results. And the bottles last 3 weeks if used all over. ITs actually the bet seller on the amira website I orderd from and I must say the amira website is amazing because it only sells natural safe products! Goggle amira majic for the website.


    So feel free to post ingredients that your unsure about or comment/review on safe products you are using or have used.

    HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE! JOIN THE NATURAL MOVEMENT!:D


    *MODS PLEASE Don't DELETE THIS THREAD BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THIS THREAD WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR A lot OF PEOPLE*
  • Apr 18, 2009, 11:27 AM
    weezing

    Here is the amira website

    Glutathione Secret - Skin Whitening Effects & Beauty Care
  • Apr 18, 2009, 11:31 AM
    XOXOlove

    I like the sound on this. Hq scares me. I'm still using lemons to lighten my chin and lips. A very slow process though!
  • Apr 19, 2009, 09:16 AM
    tengu555

    I am going with the Natural Movement for lightening my skin gradually.Plants extracts are good.Like Bearberry Extract,Melissa Officnaliss Leaf,Malva extract,Caviar extarct, etc.Salicyclic Acid is not harmful.I started using a new Natural whitening Product that just came out called Over White.So far,its been positive.ently tones me.But I have to wait and see HOW it goes.But I am sure that the Natural Movement is the Best even though its gentle.GO FOR IT.ANY ONE WILL DO
  • Apr 21, 2009, 09:36 AM
    weezing

    Omg I didn't come yesterday so it should come today I can't wait to start using it
  • Apr 21, 2009, 09:48 AM
    watangu

    Where can I buy Over white super whitening lotion.Hs any one tried it?I heard from someone that its verygood and its madefrom plant extract.Any help?
  • Apr 22, 2009, 11:03 AM
    BlackSkinGirl
    Hello Weezing.

    I have been using Bio Claire for 7 days.
    I am not sure that I've gotten lighter due to the acne scarring on 80% of my face... well, I believe I have but nothing significant.

    I read that you have gone All Natural... I also intend to.

    However, this is my question... b4 you got the brown spots using Bio Clear & you were please, what was your original complexion, how many shades did you lighten-up, did you have acne scarring(if so, did the scars disappear), how long did you use it, & was your face continuously dry & peeling in places?

    I am NEWBIE central.

    Please reply & advise.

    Thank you in advance
  • Apr 23, 2009, 04:08 PM
    missboo

    Ummm.bio claire is so very safe.its d best.it has a good amount of kojic acid and kojic acid is very good
  • Apr 23, 2009, 05:41 PM
    weezing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BlackSkinGirl View Post
    Hello Weezing.

    I have been using Bio Claire for 7 days.
    I am not sure that I've gotten lighter due to the acne scarring on 80% of my face... well, I believe I have but nothing significant.

    I read that you have gone All Natural...I also intend to.

    However, this is my question...b4 you got the brown spots using Bio Clear & you were please, what was your original complexion, how many shades did you lighten-up, did you have acne scarring(if so, did the scars disappear), how long did you use it, & was your face continuously dry & peeling in places?

    I am NEWBIE central.

    Please reply & advise.

    Thank you in advance

    Well my starting complexion was medium brown and like within like 4 weeks I was very lightskinned like Beyonces complexion which was my goal and it happened so fast and all I used was the bio claire lotion. Yes I had acne and in the beginning the acne and the ance scars were gone! My sister told me that I look like I just got a facial but then the spots came I looked like a dalmatian it was so not cute I had to stop and within a week I was back to my original complexion. My face was never dry and it never peeled.
  • Apr 23, 2009, 06:13 PM
    weezing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by missboo View Post
    ummm.bio claire is so very safe.its d best.it has a good amount of kojic acid and kojic acid is very good

    Well if u think that more power to you honey
  • Apr 23, 2009, 09:03 PM
    abbycute

    Has anyone here tried Tonique? I've been using it for 2 months now and I am about 4 or 5 shades lighter than when I started and the products are all natural. I tried Bio Claire and it took a long while to work. With Tonique the results were visible within the first week. Honestly this stuff cleared up acne scars that I haven't been able to get rid of for years. You should try it and I think they cost less than Bio Claire. Here's the website Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products.
  • Apr 24, 2009, 05:10 AM
    PunkChic

    This is a top thread!

    I really want to try this. I'd LOVE to have brighter skin as my skin is looking very dull lately.
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...er-210244.html
  • Apr 24, 2009, 05:43 AM
    abbycute
    Punk Chic I wouldn't tell you this stuff works if it didn't. You should try it!
  • Apr 24, 2009, 06:16 AM
    gorgeouslady

    abbycute,I googled online for more info on this tonique product you said worked for you.how come I didn't find enough information?if you say it works to lighten you so many shades how come lots info is not on the net?at least many people should have used it and shared their experience besides the testimonials on the website.reminds me of L'maj.when I googled them too I didn't find any info on them,just their website.then I later found out on other skin lightening forums that they're a scam.I hope you're not a seller and it's not a scam.do you have befores and afters?I hope I didn't offend you in anyway.just want to be clear
  • Apr 24, 2009, 07:16 AM
    MAHARANI

    On the bright skin board, it appears that this person is also trying to promote this tonique product.
  • Apr 24, 2009, 07:13 PM
    gorgeouslady

    Scary if you ask me
  • Apr 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
    abbycute
    I am just passionate about skin whitening. I used a lot of other all natural products in the past that promoted a fairer complexion but, I didn't see any noticeable results in such a short time. I have to admit I didn't Google them when I first purchased the product a co-worker of mine uses the products and told me about it. I know they're not a scam because I personally use the products. I have been lightening my skin for 10 years now and I haven't found anything that is all natural that works like this. If you don't want to try it then don't try it I am just saying that it works so, you can call it promotion if you want to.
  • Apr 24, 2009, 11:27 PM
    abbycute

    If you haven't tried the product please don't criticize it. I am here to talk about my skin whitening experiences and to share and learn more about other people's experiences. Please have an open mind and don't be so suspicious gorgeous lady!! Thank you
  • Apr 25, 2009, 12:35 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gorgeouslady View Post
    abbycute,i googled online for more info on this tonique product you said worked for you.how come i didn't find enough information?if you say it works to lighten you so many shades how come lots info is not on the net?atleast many people should have used it and shared their experience besides the testimonials on the website.reminds me of L'maj.when i googled them too i didn't find any info on them,just their website.then i later found out on other skin lightening forums that they're a scam.i hope you're not a seller and it's not a scam.do you have befores and afters?i hope i didn't offend you in anyway.just want to be clear

    Wow I tried to stay out of this thread cause its for natural lightening, but I couldn't help myself. I have also heard of l'mage beverly hills, the site of celebrity whitening. LOL, my friend ordered from them got a completely useless package that did nothing except send her to the bathroom. Poor girl spent over 350 for something that did not work. She ended up throwing it away.
  • Apr 25, 2009, 12:40 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abbycute View Post
    Has anyone here tried Tonique? I've been using it for 2 months now and I am about 4 or 5 shades lighter than when I started and the products are all natural. I tried Bio Claire and it took a long while to work. With Tonique the results were visible within the first week. Honestly this stuff cleared up acne scars that I haven't been able to get rid of for years. You should try it and I think they cost less than Bio Claire. Here's the website Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products.

    LMAO I just went to the website and I swear the products look exactly like the stuff my friend got form L'mage, the labeling looks very familiar
  • Apr 25, 2009, 12:44 AM
    abbycute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    wow i tried to stay out of this thread cause its for natural lightening, but i couldn't help myself. I have also heard of l'mage beverly hills, the site of celebrity whitening. LOL, my friend ordered from them got a completely useless package that did nothing except send her to the bathroom. Poor girl spent over 350 for something that did not work. she ended up throwing it away.

    There are all kinds of scams on the internet but I have used this and it's not a scam. It's really sad that people have to think this way but, understandable I guess. Hopefully someone who has used the product will post to this thread soon so u can see what I am saying is true.
  • Apr 25, 2009, 12:51 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abbycute View Post
    There are all kinds of scams on the internet but I have used this and it's not a scam. It's really sad that people have to think this way but, understandable I guess. Hopefully someone who has used the product will post to this thread soon so u can see what I am saying is true.

    Look aby don't get me wrong it just looks like something familiar that's all:)
  • Apr 25, 2009, 03:44 AM
    PunkChic

    Abby, I don't think I want to use a product that will lighten there skin quick because that would be just plain worrying to be honest.
  • Apr 25, 2009, 03:51 AM
    abbycute

    Ok I understand I feel if I'm spending the money I would like to see results as soon as possible but, I guess everyone looks for different things.
  • Apr 25, 2009, 03:53 AM
    abbycute

    I used to use fair and flawless has anyone here tried that?
  • Apr 25, 2009, 03:55 PM
    gorgeouslady

    I guess everyone has the right to share his/her experience with the products they used.abbycute please feel free and share your experience and am sorry if you got me all wrong.just that I personally like using products I can find lots of info on before using.just my way of doing things though.lets know how things go with your products.cheers!
  • Apr 25, 2009, 04:30 PM
    abbycute

    Thanks gorgeouslady for keeping an open mind. By the way I don't know if you saw where I said I have used Bio Claire before too and it did nothing but dry out my skin and I didn't see any results. Pretty much you name it and I've tried it.
  • Apr 25, 2009, 07:37 PM
    galfijej
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abbycute View Post
    I used to use fair and flawless has anyone here tried that?


    Hi abbycute,

    If you don't mind my asking, why did you stop using Fair and Flawless? I've read others say it was way too expensive, or that results were not consistent (as I believe member MAHARANI stated in other threads). Did you feel the same way?

    I took a look at the Tonique website, and it appears they sell mostly the same products as Fair and Flawless. I say this because some information from the Tonique website is EXACTLY the same as from the Fair and Flawless (F&F) website. Here are some examples:

    EXAMPLE #1: Customer service information

    Link from Tonique: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products
    Link from FNF: Fair and Flawless | Customer Service

    I notice the language is identical, except it says "Tonique" instead of "Fair and Flawless" where applicable, or vice versa.

    EXAMPLE #2: Ingredient lists for Facial Lightening Cream

    Ingredients of Tonique 10x Intense Skin Whitening Cream:
    Source: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products

    Purified Sea Water, Aloe vera gel, hops extract,rosemary leaves extract, sage leaves extract, ginseng extract, sea ware, lemon extract, hazelnut oil, oilgopeptide, palmitoyl tetrapeptide-7, squalene,lactic acid, Sepi-white msh, citric acid, vitamins A and E, alpha arbutin, metabisulfate, natural fragrance

    Ingredients of F&F Facial Lightening Cream:
    Source: Facial Lightening Cream

    Purified Sea Water, Aloe vera gel, hops extract,rosemary leaves extract, sage leaves extract, ginseng extract, sea ware, lemon extract, hazelnut oil, oilgopeptide, palmitoyl tetrapeptide-7, squalene,lactic acid, Sepi-white msh, citric acid, vitamins A and E, alpha arbutin, metabisulfate, natural fragrance. /FONT>

    EXAMPLE #3: Ingredients for Skin Lightening Lotion

    Ingredients of Tonique Green Tea Moisturizing Whitening Lotion (Price: $59.95)
    Source: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products

    Purified seawater, aloe vera leaf juice, green tea extract, symphytum leaf extract, citric grandis seed extract, sepiwhite MSH, Vitamin A and E, lactic acid, glycolic acid, methylparaben, propylparaben, mulberry extract, shea butter, rosehip extract, citric acid, natural fragrance

    Ingredients of Skin Soho™ "LIQUID LASER" Colada White Hand & Body Milk (Price:$79.95)
    Source: Skin Lightening Lotion | Hand and Body

    Purified seawater, aloe vera leaf juice, anthemis nobilis flower extract, symphytum leaf extract, citric grandis seed extract, undecylenoyl phenylalinne (SEPIWHITE MSH), Vitamin A, E, lactic acid, glycolic acid, methylparaben, propylparaben, mulberry extract, shea butter, rosehip extract, citric acid fragrance

    ------------------------------
    Sorry for such a long post, but I just wanted to illustrate my point that I think Tonique and Fair and Flawless are the same company, except F&F has a larger product selection? Although in some, if not all cases, the prices are lower at Tonique than F&F. Also, maybe one "notable difference" is the strength of the whitening gel. It's labelled as "10x" for Tonique vs. "5x" for F&F. And maybe Tonique doesn't fill subsequent orders with "diluted" products?

    I'd appreciate thoughts from you, as well as current and former F&F users.

    Also, on a side note, some F&F products are also sold in South Africa as "Pure Perfect" (website: Pure Perfect - Lighter with Confidence). This site gives more straightforward information to the consumer about what to expect, including possible symptoms, when using the products.

    Thank you, and continued success with your skin lightening efforts!
  • Apr 25, 2009, 09:11 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galfijej View Post
    Hi abbycute,

    If you don't mind my asking, why did you stop using Fair and Flawless? I've read others say it was way too expensive, or that results were not consistent (as I believe member MAHARANI stated in other threads). Did you feel the same way?

    I took a look at the Tonique website, and it appears they sell mostly the same products as Fair and Flawless. I say this because some information from the Tonique website is EXACTLY the same as from the Fair and Flawless (F&F) website. Here are some examples:

    EXAMPLE #1: Customer service information

    Link from Tonique: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products
    Link from FNF: Fair and Flawless | Customer Service

    I notice the language is identical, except it says "Tonique" instead of "Fair and Flawless" where applicable, or vice versa.

    EXAMPLE #2: Ingredient lists for Facial Lightening Cream

    Ingredients of Tonique 10x Intense Skin Whitening Cream:
    Source: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products

    Purified Sea Water, Aloe vera gel, hops extract,rosemary leaves extract, sage leaves extract, ginseng extract, sea ware, lemon extract, hazelnut oil, oilgopeptide, palmitoyl tetrapeptide-7, squalene,lactic acid, Sepi-white msh, citric acid, vitamins A and E, alpha arbutin, metabisulfate, natural fragrance

    Ingredients of F&F Facial Lightening Cream:
    Source: Facial Lightening Cream

    Purified Sea Water, Aloe vera gel, hops extract,rosemary leaves extract, sage leaves extract, ginseng extract, sea ware, lemon extract, hazelnut oil, oilgopeptide, palmitoyl tetrapeptide-7, squalene,lactic acid, Sepi-white msh, citric acid, vitamins A and E, alpha arbutin, metabisulfate, natural fragrance. /FONT>

    EXAMPLE #3: Ingredients for Skin Lightening Lotion

    Ingredients of Tonique Green Tea Moisturizing Whitening Lotion (Price: $59.95)
    Source: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products

    Purified seawater, aloe vera leaf juice, green tea extract, symphytum leaf extract, citric grandis seed extract, sepiwhite MSH, Vitamin A and E, lactic acid, glycolic acid, methylparaben, propylparaben, mulberry extract, shea butter, rosehip extract, citric acid, natural fragrance

    Ingredients of Skin Soho™ "LIQUID LASER" Colada White Hand & Body Milk (Price:$79.95)
    Source: Skin Lightening Lotion | Hand and Body

    Purified seawater, aloe vera leaf juice, anthemis nobilis flower extract, symphytum leaf extract, citric grandis seed extract, undecylenoyl phenylalinne (SEPIWHITE MSH), Vitamin A, E, lactic acid, glycolic acid, methylparaben, propylparaben, mulberry extract, shea butter, rosehip extract, citric acid fragrance

    ------------------------------
    Sorry for such a long post, but I just wanted to illustrate my point that I think Tonique and Fair and Flawless are the same company, except F&F has a larger product selection? Although in some, if not all cases, the prices are lower at Tonique than F&F. Also, maybe one "notable difference" is the strength of the whitening gel. It's labelled as "10x" for Tonique vs. "5x" for F&F. And maybe Tonique doesn't fill subsequent orders with "diluted" products?

    I'd appreciate thoughts from you, as well as current and former F&F users.

    Also, on a side note, some F&F products are also sold in South Africa as "Pure Perfect" (website: Pure Perfect - Lighter with Confidence). This site gives more straightforward information to the consumer about what to expect, including possible symptoms, when using the products.

    Thank you, and continued success with your skin lightening efforts!

    Thanks for the info. You are like a super sluth:D
  • Apr 26, 2009, 04:03 AM
    abbycute

    I've use F&F before and yes they were too expensive. I couldn't keep up with the prices and they weren't as effective as Tonique. I don't know if they're affiliated but, a lot of the all natural skin whitening companies tend to be fairly alike. I found I got much faster results with Tonique though and it's less expensive.
  • Apr 26, 2009, 05:30 AM
    weezing

    abbycute is a seller and she needs to be banned!

    Well I got the soap and lotion Friday and I was so happy. The lotion is purple and smellls like lavender and its very easy to apply but you have to rub it in really good but absorbs into your skin really fast. The soap got rid of the few acne bumps on my forehead and I noticed that yesterday night. The soap smells good and it lathers nicely. I've only been using for 3 days so far no results but my skin is a lot smother! GO NATURAL!
  • Apr 26, 2009, 05:47 AM
    weezing

    I would also like to say the likas papaya soap really works. It wasn't drastic at all maybe like a half of shade from 1.5 months of use but it worked! Its not strong, no added scents, and it's a good exfoliator and its extremely cheap!! So if your on a budget and you want a safe skin lightening soap go with likas papaya soap.
  • Apr 26, 2009, 06:33 AM
    abbycute

    What? I don't understand why everyone is so negative and harsh might I add!! You don't have to ban me I prefer to speak with positive, open-minded people. You would think people who choose to whiten their skin would be more open-minded and receptive. I hope in the future the people here can learn not be so suspicious (a lot of oppurtunities in life tend to pass you by that way). Anyhow, good luck in your skin whitening ventures. Bye
  • Apr 26, 2009, 09:37 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weezing View Post
    i would also like to say the likas papaya soap really works. it wasnt drastic at all maybe like a half of shade from 1.5 months of use but it worked! its not strong, no added scents, and its a good exfoliator and its extremely cheap!!! so if your on a budget and you want a safe skin lightening soap go with likas papaya soap.

    I agree with the papaya soap because I am using a 3 in 1 whitening soap and it has papaya+kijic acid+ placenta and it does work really well:D it gets the skin ready for lightening
  • Apr 26, 2009, 09:50 AM
    innuendo
    Omg whoever keeps advertising that crap tonique needs to be banned! This seller is going to all lightening forums saying the same thing.
  • Apr 26, 2009, 12:30 PM
    Cubano Kid

    Hey why is everyone so harsh on abbycute? She seems like she's trying to help. But anyway, I'm not sure if I want to whiten my skin again because last time I tried Hyperpigmentation took over my face for like 3 weeks. Its finally gone now but I really don't want to risk getting it again.
  • Apr 26, 2009, 04:14 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cubano Kid View Post
    Hey why is everyone so harsh on abbycute? She seems like she's trying to help. But anyway, I'm not sure if I want to whiten my skin again because last time I tried Hyperpigmentation took over my face for like 3 weeks. Its finally gone now but I really don't want to risk getting it again.

    Try using something natural like kojic acid or retina, papaya, licorice acid, lactic acid, they are are natural and safe lightener, they will take some time but they work
  • Apr 26, 2009, 09:01 PM
    whiteandlight

    Hello All! I have used bio claire before but it takes ages to get a result.
  • Apr 26, 2009, 09:03 PM
    whiteandlight

    Oh and I got my first order of Tonique last month and I like it. I was scared to say it because I was reading through previous posts. LOL
  • Apr 27, 2009, 09:31 AM
    Cubano Kid
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    try using something natural like kojic acid or retina, papaya, licorice acid, lactic acid, they are are natural and safe lightener, they will take some time but they work

    I'm thinking of trying Likas papaya soap. Hopefully that will work for me. I have no idea how long it takes though

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