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  • Sep 1, 2005, 06:53 AM
    dimples
    The Pursuit for whitening products that DO work
    Hey everyone! I have been on the pursuit for beautiful fair skin. Not porcelain white but even tone, freckle free skin. So, if you have tried or are currently trying some products right now, do update us. NO FALSE TESTIMONIALS here. So lets go down to business. :)
  • Sep 1, 2005, 06:59 AM
    dimples
    Right now, I am on my 14th day of my 3,000mg glutathione regimen. I guess I did lighten up a shade or 2 but the freckles on my arms have become more noticeable. :mad: So, I started Godiva products 7days ago. The deodorant gave me bad allergies. I had to use a steroid cream on my armpits for 3 days. Sucks! I am using the Godiva whitening cream on my arms but I did not see any effect. There goes its 7day promise. But I will try all thse products for 6 months.
  • Sep 1, 2005, 09:13 AM
    pao
    Godiva creams are not effective and it can cause burning when exposed on sunlight. Their products were derived from fruits which can exfolliate dead skin cells but AHA can make your face thin and sensitive to sunlight. It is not a good product. Better think before using it or used a sunblock just in case you are dying to use it. In my case, I do not use sunblock because it makes my skin oily or greasy during daytime so I go for a cream that has uv protector in one.
  • Sep 2, 2005, 04:36 AM
    dimples
    Pao
    Hello Pao. For how long were you using Godiva & which products have you used so far? I bought the skin whitening lotion, cream, deodorant, sunscreen & soap. I think I like the soap best. It whitened my face but I am very extra careful with my body. I only use body washes because my body tends to dry more easily. So far, the whitening cream has not fulfilled ANY whitening for me & I am already on my 8th day.Same goes with the lotion.
  • Sep 2, 2005, 04:40 AM
    Lady C
    Dimples, where did u buy your glutathione from and what is your ethnic background?
  • Sep 2, 2005, 04:41 AM
    dimples
    A friend of mine emailed me yesterday that while doing her shopping in Greenbelt, Manila, she bumped into this actress who was buying tons of this tablet, ph 338. She then asked the owner of the store about it & the he claims she has been buying them by the bulk since 1999. She has gorgeous skin! Has anyone heard of this ph 338? Anyone tried them?
  • Sep 2, 2005, 04:45 AM
    dimples
    I have brown complexion. Light brown. Chinese-Filipino-Spanish with freckes on both arms. I got my glutathione from www.magicpotions.com. I think they have the best price so far.
  • Sep 2, 2005, 04:58 AM
    Lady C
    Thanks, which link did u purchase your's from? Any side effects?
  • Sep 2, 2005, 05:02 AM
    dimples
    I got mine from www.magicpotions.com. So far, I haven't noticed ANY side effect but I have been using it for just 15 days. I hope that in 3 months or so, I would be 4 shades lighter! :D :D :D
  • Sep 2, 2005, 05:05 AM
    Lady C
    When I click on the link, there is about 3-4 different gluthianone (sp?) links so I'm asking which link one did u click on and purchase from?
  • Sep 2, 2005, 05:09 AM
    dimples
    Sorry
    I bought the Dr. James & Vitamins USA. I combined both to get to 3000mg per day.
  • Sep 2, 2005, 05:12 AM
    dimples
    My glutathione schedule
    A.M. 1 dr james (1000mg) & 2 1000mg Vitamin C
    Noon 2 Vitamins USA (500mg each) & 1 1000mg Vitamin C
    P.M. 1 dr james(1000mg) & 2 1000mg Vitamin C

    The grand total would be 3000mg glutathione with 5,500mg Vitamin C
  • Sep 5, 2005, 08:50 AM
    dimples
    Lady C
    Hello Lady C! Did you start your glutathione already? Do update me about it!
  • Sep 5, 2005, 09:05 AM
    dimples
    My update
    Going 3 weeks & still the 2 shades I have lightened. I don't know if I will lighten more but I will continue still for 5 more months. :o Who knows? Anyway, the Godiva whitening cream has not been effective & I have finished my started kit already & opened a bigger Whitening cream just in case. The freckles on my arms look darker now that the other parts have whitened. Anybody knows what product I should try to get rid of these freckles? Do help. If you have started new products or have heard of nice prducts, do tell & we will try them all! :D :D :D
  • Sep 6, 2005, 02:02 AM
    kinekon18
    depigged skin
    any info I give will be irrelevant, I LOVE the porcelain white skintone and that's what I'm after, most (okay all... lol) tell me I'm mad for wanting to go so extreme (I'm already very fair being mixed race = where most here whitening their skin would like to be), but I'd rather go all the way properly - rather than spend £$++ on something that lightens me no shades at all. (or marginally)
  • Sep 6, 2005, 03:40 PM
    kkasey1982
    I don't know if any OTC whitening cream can get rid of freckles. You probably need laser to do that. Some people are saying the new herbal inn is good, maybe give it a shot.
  • Sep 7, 2005, 08:06 AM
    dimples
    Thank you. My freckles have really become noticeable. I guess glutathione doesn't work on freckes.
  • Sep 7, 2005, 09:17 AM
    dimples
    Welcome, kinekon18!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kinekon18
    any info i give will be irrelevant, i LOVE the porcelain white skintone and that's what i'm after, most (okay all .... lol) tell me i'm mad for wanting to go so extreme (i'm already very fair being mixed race = where most here whitening their skin would like to be), but i'd rather go all the way properly - rather than spend £$++ on something that lightens me no shades at all. (or marginally)

    Hi! I heard you have been experimenting with monobenzone. So how was it? TEll us your experience. Everybody here has tried a lot of products to whiten their skin & your opinion is highly appreciated.
    :D
  • Sep 22, 2005, 02:11 AM
    I Come In Peace
    Finally A Product That Works!
    Dimples,

    Have I Got The Potion 4 You. I couldn't help but to feel for you about your problem of not being able to find a product that brightens/evens out your skin tone. I was just like you a few years ago. Since I have very fair skin, every time I get a blemish, it shows. I got tried of covering up blemishes with make-up so I hunted for years for a cream that would fade away my blemishes and nothing ever worked.

    Esoterica didn't work, Cocoa Butters didn't work, Godiva Skin Whitening products didn't work (which was a total joke), among others. I even went to a top dermatologist who whipped up a special batch just for me with 4% hydroquinone (a skin lightening agent) and I was saddened when after months of using it, THAT didn't even seem to work.

    I was really frustrated, that is, until I found "Palmer's Skin Success Eventone Fade Milk". It is manufactured by E.T. Browne Drug Company, Inc. It has 2% hydroquinone that safely, and effectively fades away dark marks for an all over body even skin tone.

    I noticed a difference in just 3 DAYS! All my friends complement me on how lovely my skin looks now. I can honestly say that I will never again use another fading product. Since it's made in the form of a lotion in a tall 8.5 oz. bottle, it lasts for months! It is very inexpensive at only $8.60 per bottle. Just apply it in a thin layer twice a day and you'll be blown away!



    HERE IS THE LINK:

    http://www.etbrowne.com/products/Det...ductLineID=526



    Please go there, try the product, then let me know how everything goes.
  • Sep 22, 2005, 06:37 AM
    bella05
    I have used it without results. Everybody skin is different.
  • Sep 22, 2005, 12:15 PM
    jujubee
    Hydroquinone
    Hydroquinone is the only ingredient proven to significantly decrease melatonin production in the skin. There are some side effects in long term usage(over three months). The company DDF makes a good product called Fade Gel that also contains kojic acid, another known skin de-pigmenting agent. You could also just shop around and look for prodcust with these ingredients. You'd want to find at least 2% percent.
  • Sep 22, 2005, 11:02 PM
    dimples
    Hmm...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jujubee
    Hydroquinone is the only ingredient proven to significantly decrease melatonin production in the skin. There are some side effects in long term usage(over three months). The company DDF makes a good product called Fade Gel that also contains kojic acid, another known skin de-pigmenting agent. You could also just shop around and look for prodcust with these ingredients. You'd want to find at least 2% percent.

    I admit hydroquinone really works. I know lots of people who have been using it on their faces for a really long time. It is supposed to make you wrinkle but heck, all the people I know who use them have really nice faces. I have a friend who has very beautiful facial skin & what she does is use tretinoin & follow it with Chinese pearl creams like a foundation & I have to say, it really does work for her. But I want a whole body whitening product. I want my face to match my neck & every hidden part of my body. :D :o
  • Sep 22, 2005, 11:50 PM
    kinekon18
    depigging works
    most people say they want to whiten their skin, but then they say they only want to go a couple of shades?
    it confuses me that if someone wanted to be "white" (or at least have the "white" appearance) they wouldn't look into using monobenzone or benoquin (diluted - to avoid vitiligo patches).

    unlike hydroquinone, using the depigmenting creams won't have any adverse affects on your skin.
    sure - you won't ever be able to tan and you'll need sunscreen anytime you go out, but if you didn't want skin damage even with melanin present you should apply sun protection as a habit.

    I'm getting allot of PM's of people asking me the same thing over and over again - you can't stop once you reach your desired skintone, you have to keep using till you have completely depigmented - with the gradual lightening I'm experiencing it'll take longer, but I figure that to be a plus because I still look normal, much lighter than before "with" eventoned skin.

    I won't know when I'm depigged completely because you can't tell just by looking at the skin, you have to use a woods light to make sure all underlying pigment has been removed, otherwise the areas that show that pigment remains (is still present on the sublevel) will repigment rapidly.

    most people who genuinely suffer with vit "stop" using the cream once they turn white, then get confused that they experience repigmentation - their repigging isn't because the cream doesn't work, they repig because they didn't finish treatment

    (which is understandable, benoquin and monobenzone are expensive and you may need to use the cream for years. When I say years people jump to the conclusion that they will have vit patches for that long. Wrong.

    years = the time it takes to get rid of the underlying pigment so you don't repig, for that timespan you'll have the appearance of white looking skin, but you won't be fully immune to repigging till you have finished your treatment with the cream).

    I wouldn't advise anyone to use hydroquinone, it thins the skin - which means you'll be more prone to permanent scars on your skin as a result of pimples/spots etc or just general trauma.

    opting to depig is scary, I was scared the first time I applied the lotion to my skin, but everything's been fine since I diluted it and I'm hoping to have the depigged look come the end of this year, then it'll just be maintenance - strict sun sense/avoidance and happy days for me.

    it's a big step, it's a life changing step - I'm taking it and so far there have been no regrets, in fact I doubt there ever will be. Myself like most of you here wanted to lighten my skin - because I'm light already that would mean going very pale, there is no deciding factor as to how light you think you want to go, I know some people who have lightened various shades using "banned" substances (mercury etc), and despite being shades lighter they continue with their own treatment because they get sucked in - the lighter they get the better they feel they look, the lighter they want to go.

    anyone serious about whitening their skin should really look into depigmenting, disregard the horror stories or warnings you get from people - fact is that monobenzone (generic) or benoquin (brand) depigs the skin, people with vitiligo have been using it for years with no ill effect - other than having very pale skin, but isn't that we all want?

    I hope this covers most of the PM questions I've been getting, sorry for slacking and not PMing most of you back - but it get's tedious when people keep asking the same things over and over again. I end up feeling like a broken record and then people get sick of hearing it time and time again when I post to any board.

    if anyone has Q's, please post to the board - it'll help in the long run, as whatever you may want to ask me there will be 10 more people wanting to ask the same thing, if I post the answer once I won't have to write it again.

    sorry for the essay but I hope my knowledge of using the cream has enlightened you (lol), if you don't take my word for it you can research the sub as I did or join vitiligosupport (as a silent member) and read their posts, all the info is out there for you to make an informed decision about your skin.

    whatever you want you can get, just don't destroy your skin or get ripped off in the pursuit for happiness...

    peace out.

    Kinny x
  • Sep 23, 2005, 03:28 PM
    Brennan
    Dimples are you Filipina?
    Just curious...

    :rolleyes:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dimples
    A friend of mine emailed me yesterday that while doing her shopping in Greenbelt, Manila, she bumped into this actress who was buying tons of this tablet, ph 338. She then asked the owner of the store about it & the he claims she has been buying them by the bulk since 1999. She has gorgeous skin! Has anyone heard of this ph 338? Anyone tried them?

  • Sep 24, 2005, 09:57 AM
    dimples
    Mixed race
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brennan
    Just curious....

    :rolleyes:

    I am Chinese-Filipina-Spanish hence my freckles. :mad:
  • Sep 24, 2005, 10:20 AM
    dimples
    How about you?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brennan
    Just curious....

    :rolleyes:

    I checked all your other posts so what nationality are you?It seems you are new here & have been fighting a lot with old members. Check out all my other posts & you will see that I am not selling even a SINGLE product! We state facts here so I suggest you close your wide mouth as you do not have enough knowledge about this. I am a doctor & I know what I am talking about so whatever my NATIONALITY is irrelevant!
  • Sep 25, 2005, 01:36 PM
    Brennan
    OK.. thanks for stating your nationality
    You didn't have to answer that you know, no reason for you to be catty,I don't care if you're a Doctor, of what? DOn't you think you're better off helping people in the hospital, clinic, or in an emergency room somewhere else, than start a cat fight, this is if you are a real Doctor? See, I don't need to answer your question, the reason why I ask is because I noticed that you are in pursuit of a skin whitening product for a very long time, and tried thousands of brands, using yourself as a guinea pig for these people in the forum. I was wondering if your ethnicity has something to do with it, THAT"S WHY I ASK! I see that reaction as being defensive, why, I don't know why. And why do you care if Im new here, that doesn't mean I don't know . Im just observing, since Im also in pursuit of a skin whitening product that works, but unlike you, I let these other people try it first before I do. Better safe than sorry. :D :D :eek:


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dimples
    I checked all your other posts so what nationality are you?It seems you are new here & have been fighting a lot with old members. Check out all my other posts & you will see that I am not selling even a SINGLE product! We state facts here so I suggest you close your wide mouth as you do not have enough knowledge about this. I am a doctor & I know what I am talking about so whatever my NATIONALITY is irrelevant!

  • Sep 26, 2005, 04:49 AM
    dimples
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brennan
    you didn't have to answer that you know, no reason for you to be catty,i don't care if your a Doctor, of what? DOn't you think you're better off helping people in the hospital, clinic, or in an emergency room somewhere else, than start a cat fight, this is if you are a real Doctor? See, i don't need to answer your question, the reason why I ask is because I noticed that you are in pursuit of a skin whitening product for a very long time, and tried thousands of brands, using yourself as a guinea pig for these people in the forum. I was wondering if your ethnicity has something to do with it, THAT"S WHY I ASK!! I see that reaction as being defensive, why, I don't know why. And why do you care if Im new here, that doesn't mean I don't know . Im just observing, since Im also in pursuit of a skin whitening product that works, but unlike you, I let these other people try it first before I do. Better safe than sorry. :D :D :eek:

    I am a pediatrician, not a DERMATOLOGIST. So, what if I try products myself? What has that got to do with you?
  • Sep 26, 2005, 05:13 AM
    Brennan
    You're the one who brought up the Profession issue
    Not me, so if I were you, why don't you just continue your pursuit to whitening your skin rather than telling people off!! And bragging that you're a doctor and you know what you're doing, you love bringing that up don't you, although it has got nothing to do with any of us here in this forum! Have a pleasant day! :D



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dimples
    I am a pediatrician, not a DERMATOLOGIST. So, what if I try products myself? What has that got to do with you?

  • Sep 26, 2005, 05:16 AM
    dimples
    Tsk.. tsk
    The way you ask if I have Filipino blood. You made it sound like it's a bad thing
  • Sep 26, 2005, 05:47 AM
    Brennan
    It's not a bad thing...
    I did some researching and it turned out that Philippines has a very high rate of people using all sort of skin whitening. As a matter of fact, the place where I ordered my Glutathione pills is located in the Philippines.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dimples
    The way you ask if I have Filipino blood. You made it sound like its a bad thing

  • Sep 26, 2005, 06:03 AM
    dimples
    Lets face it. Three fourths of whitening products worldwide are made & sold in Asia because most Asian women want to be white white.
  • Sep 26, 2005, 07:02 AM
    Brennan
    You are absolutely right!
    By the way I was the one who asked you where you bought your Glutathione pills, I end up buying Lucida-DS instead since I was in a rush, is this the same as in Magic Potions. Lucida has 500mg Gluta, 250 Rosehips and 50mg Alpha Lipoic acid? :confused:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dimples
    Lets face it. Three fourths of whitening products worldwide are made & sold in Asia because most Asian women want to be white white.

  • Sep 27, 2005, 08:55 AM
    dimples
    I ordered from a lot of sources
    I bought from Kazumi at first. He was selling Vitamins USA which has 500mg glutathione, lipoic acid & zinc aspartate as well as 250 mg Vitamin C. But then when I checked out magicpotions, they sold me the same thing with a better deal so I ordered from them after that & also tried their Dr. James which has 1000mg glutathione & none of the others found in Vitamins USA.
  • Sep 27, 2005, 08:58 AM
    nataliebear21
    Freckles
    Why do you want to get rid of your freckles. I'm just curious. I have them and I don't mind them.

    Nataliebear
  • Sep 27, 2005, 09:18 AM
    dimples
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nataliebear21
    why do you want to get rid of your freckles. I'm just curious. I have them and I don't mind them.


    Nataliebear

    I'm sorry if I sound crazy but as I started lightening, my freckles have become very noticeable. I have always envied smooth, even skin since way back & I am hoping to achieve just that. Also, the freckles I have are in weird areas like near the elbows, on my hands, shoulders(though not that many) so my skin looks Kind of DIRTY( I feel like I just crawled from the road) to me. I hope you understand why I want to get rid of them.
  • Sep 27, 2005, 09:20 AM
    nataliebear21
    Hmmm
    I think smooth even skin is done by make-up more than genetics. That's just my opinion.
  • Sep 27, 2005, 09:23 AM
    dimples
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nataliebear21
    I think smooth even skin is done by make-up more than genetics. that's just my opinion.

    I have cousins who are 100% Chinese & they have excellent skin like porcelain. No freckles in sight. That is what I want to achieve.
  • Sep 27, 2005, 10:29 AM
    nataliebear21
    Ahh
    I see, that's interesting. I'm Irish and it's pretty normal for me to have freckles. I heard that guys love freckles. Especially on Lucy Liu.
  • Sep 27, 2005, 08:25 PM
    beny
    Dimples, do you know what the ingredients to PH 338 are? If the main active ingredient is glutathione, do you know what the concentration is? I found a website that sells the pills, but the company is based in the Philippeans and seems very shady. I sent them an email about the product... if they reply to me I will order, but if they neglect my email, I will assume that the company is no good. Please let me know what info you have on the pill. Thanks.

    Also, www.magicpotions.com seems to have been taken down? Correct me if this is incorrect. Is there anywhere else to buy glutathione 1000 mg? Thanks.

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