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  • Apr 12, 2009, 01:04 AM
    traygeaux
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by prisgirl101 View Post
    Hi Chandani--my skin specialist makes a cream with about 10% hq, retinol, and glycolic acid. I'm not exactly sure if it's 10% you have to ask her, the # and email is on the website. Here cream works really good--but I only used it on my face. I don't know how it works on the body. I didn't try it on my body b/c the cream only comes in 30g and it's $21/cream--so I would be spending about $400 for only 16 ounces and that's way too expensive for me. She has a website but I don't know what it is, I google "tara's cream" and it comes up. Her full name is Tara Rhuebottom and she is a black skin care specialists.

    Wow... I go to tara rhuebottom!

    She gave me a prescription for a cream with 10% hq... it also has kojic acid and retinol... it's worked wonders for me because I'm light skinned and get dark post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation spots if I get any SEMBLANCE of a blemish.
  • Apr 12, 2009, 01:59 PM
    YasminiMe
    Kligman’s formula

    Kligman and Willis used a combination regimen of 5% HQ, 0.1% tretinoin, and 0.1% dexamethasone in a hydrophilic ointment and demonstrated an efficacy in the treatment of melasma, ephelides, and postinflammatory hyperpigmentation.[29] In this formula, tretinoin functions as an irritant to facilitate epidermal penetration of HQ, and it also plays an antioxidative role to prevent oxidation of HQ. Dexamethasone, on the other hand, is used to decrease the irritation caused by HQ or tretinoin and to inhibit melanin synthesis by decreasing cellular metabolic activity. Depigmentation occurs rapidly beginning within 3 weeks after twice-daily application of the formula and maximizing in 5 to 7 weeks.

    Pathak’s formula

    Pathak and colleagues conducted a clinical trial of this formula on 300 Hispanic women with melasma and showed superior results with creams or lotions that contained 2% HQ and 0.05–0.1% tretinoin.[5] The authors suggested that topical steroids are not necessary to achieve rapid clearance and that they should be preserved for patients who suffer irritation from tretinoin or HQ.

    Westerhof’s formula

    The combination of 4.7% N-acetylcystein (NAC), 2% HQ, and 0.1% triamcinolone acetonide improved melasma after 4 to 8 weeks of application in a left–right, placebo-controlled clinical study of 12 female patients.[40] The bleaching effect of NAC probably relates to the increase of intracellular glutathion that stimulates pheomelanin rather than eumelanin synthesis after binding with dopaquinone, clinically producing a lighter pigment. As sulfur-containing moeties, NAC and glutathion exert an inhibitory effect on tyrosinase, which may also account for their bleaching properties.

    From:

    ScienceDirect - Clinics in Dermatology : Depigmenting and bleaching agents: coping with hyperpigmentation


    I would suggest combining some of these things in your mixture, or at the very least taking them orally. Don't just try one product try several (soap, cream, lotion, gel, pills, exfoliate, etc) and research. I have been tracking the effects of NAC, MSM, and pycnogenol taken orally. Also, be realistic and don't expect to get results overnight.
  • Apr 12, 2009, 05:04 PM
    spotted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mepk5 View Post
    spotted,
    I'm happy for u I'm trying the Hq also.... when it arrives.

    Hey Mepk5... any thing new about your lightening with the Hq? I am anxiously waiting because we both have same issue!
  • Apr 12, 2009, 08:49 PM
    mepk5

    Well I was lucky the company made a special batch for me it's a pink color & a lot thicker. Of course I had to add a tube of reitn a. If I use the acid soap together I will scratch all night. So far no peeling. I don think I will peel but I'm expecting to get the area around the light spots to blend in... soon!! I will patiently give it 30 days to see something... my face still peel from obagi & retin a.
  • Apr 12, 2009, 09:00 PM
    lighterrr
    Yasmine you are right skin is a full time job and you definitely need a combination of lightners to achieve lighting and yes it doesn't happen like yesterday like we all want it 2




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by YasminiMe View Post
    Kligman’s formula

    Kligman and Willis used a combination regimen of 5% HQ, 0.1% tretinoin, and 0.1% dexamethasone in a hydrophilic ointment and demonstrated an efficacy in the treatment of melasma, ephelides, and postinflammatory hyperpigmentation.[29] In this formula, tretinoin functions as an irritant to facilitate epidermal penetration of HQ, and it also plays an antioxidative role to prevent oxidation of HQ. Dexamethasone, on the other hand, is used to decrease the irritation caused by HQ or tretinoin and to inhibit melanin synthesis by decreasing cellular metabolic activity. Depigmentation occurs rapidly beginning within 3 weeks after twice-daily application of the formula and maximizing in 5 to 7 weeks.

    Pathak’s formula

    Pathak and colleagues conducted a clinical trial of this formula on 300 Hispanic women with melasma and showed superior results with creams or lotions that contained 2% HQ and 0.05–0.1% tretinoin.[5] The authors suggested that topical steroids are not necessary to achieve rapid clearance and that they should be preserved for patients who suffer irritation from tretinoin or HQ.

    Westerhof’s formula

    The combination of 4.7% N-acetylcystein (NAC), 2% HQ, and 0.1% triamcinolone acetonide improved melasma after 4 to 8 weeks of application in a left–right, placebo-controlled clinical study of 12 female patients.[40] The bleaching effect of NAC probably relates to the increase of intracellular glutathion that stimulates pheomelanin rather than eumelanin synthesis after binding with dopaquinone, clinically producing a lighter pigment. As sulfur-containing moeties, NAC and glutathion exert an inhibitory effect on tyrosinase, which may also account for their bleaching properties.

    From:

    ScienceDirect - Clinics in Dermatology : Depigmenting and bleaching agents: coping with hyperpigmentation


    I would suggest combining some of these things in your mixture, or at the very least taking them orally. Don't just try one product try several (soap, cream, lotion, gel, pills, exfoliate, etc) and research. I have been tracking the effects of NAC, MSM, and pycnogenol taken orally. Also, be realistic and don't expect to get results overnight.

  • Apr 13, 2009, 07:33 AM
    chandani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by traygeaux View Post
    wow...i go to tara rhuebottom!

    She gave me a prescription for a cream with 10% hq...it also has kojic acid and retinol...it's worked wonders for me b/c i'm light skinned and get dark post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation spots if i get any semblance of a blemish.

    How do I get in touch with this person?
  • Apr 13, 2009, 08:26 AM
    chandani

    Is this what you guys have been using?

    Taras Cream - Welcome
  • Apr 13, 2009, 12:57 PM
    mepk5

    Mmmmm?? Lol
  • Apr 13, 2009, 01:35 PM
    chandani

    What?
  • Apr 13, 2009, 04:46 PM
    spotted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chandani View Post
    what?

    You guys remind me of myself. LOL whenever I see somebody talking about products that worked I jump and buy without thinking... I have a HUGE box full of ANY type of skin lighteners . I call it my disappointment box LOL... it worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars! Oh god help me
  • Apr 13, 2009, 05:44 PM
    chandani

    I wonder what the percentage in the cream is.. if its higher than 4%.. it should wrk lol
  • Apr 13, 2009, 06:46 PM
    lighterrr
    Lmao spotted you r not the only 1, I can't imagine adding another thing to my regimn, I'm just maintaing now.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spotted View Post
    you guys remind me of my self. LOL whenever I see somebody talking about products that worked I jump and buy without thinking... I have a HUGE box full of ANY type of skin lighteners . I call it my disappointment box LOL... it worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars! Oh god help me

  • Apr 13, 2009, 09:37 PM
    mepk5
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spotted View Post
    you guys remind me of my self. LOL whenever I see somebody talking about products that worked I jump and buy without thinking... I have a HUGE box full of ANY type of skin lighteners . I call it my disappointment box LOL... it worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars! Oh god help me

    U was reading my mind... :p
  • Apr 13, 2009, 09:40 PM
    mepk5

    I don't like to waste so I would apply it to my feet or hands... just to get rid of them... ill

    I'm reluctant to do that w left over mono powder... spots still popping up.
  • Apr 13, 2009, 09:41 PM
    traygeaux
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chandani View Post
    is this what you guys have been using?

    Taras Cream - Welcome

    Hmmmm... I don't think that's what I use... I believe when I first went to her, she said I could try her cream or she could get me something stronger from a custom scripts pharmacy out of state... you should e-mail or call and ask what specifically is in it... the cream I use has 10% hq
  • Apr 14, 2009, 04:58 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mepk5 View Post
    i dont like to waste so I would apply it to my feet or hands.... just to get rid of them...ill

    I'm reluctant to do that w left over mono powder... spots still popping up.

    Mpk I honestly think you should take the big step of throwing away the mono:eek: girl it sounds you have had and still having a bad experience with it
  • Apr 14, 2009, 09:46 PM
    spotted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mepk5 View Post
    i dont like to waste so I would apply it to my feet or hands.... just to get rid of them...ill

    I'm reluctant to do that w left over mono powder... spots still popping up.

    LOL girl! I never thought of that!! I am so going to do this starting tonight... wonder what would be the final outcome CHEETAH GIRL :p ,

    By the way I just added two items to my list of "soon to be ordered" Gluta-C cream and Soap :D I saw good feedback about this cream! Hope those are real users
  • Apr 15, 2009, 08:30 PM
    mepk5
    :eek:
    Great minds think alike!! I ordered it from the funky mommy thingy the soap & the cream. Too
    I also order glycoic acid 30%. I will try that on my foot or a spot on my hand... :o

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spotted View Post
    LOL girl! I never thought of that!!! I am so gonna do this starting tonight...wonder what would be the final outcome CHEETAH GIRL :p ,

    By the way I just added two items to my list of "soon to be ordered" Gluta-C cream and Soap :D I saw good feedback about this cream! Hope those are real users

  • Apr 15, 2009, 10:49 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mepk5 View Post
    :eek:
    great minds think alike!!! I ordered it from the funky mommy thingy the soap & the cream. too
    I also order glycoic acid 30%. I will try that on my foot or a spot on my hand....:o

    30% glycolic I've only done 10% omg, even thought I'm maintaning skin lightening is an obsession cause I still feel the need to continue to add products to my regimn, people I think I'm slowly losing control of my life the staying light is taking over.:confused:

    Anyone else have the same feeling:confused:
  • Apr 15, 2009, 11:03 PM
    shuale_ejs
    [QUOTE=lighterrr;1668871]30% glycolic I've only done 10% omg, even thought I'm maintaning skin lightening is an obsession cause I still feel the need to continue to add products to my regimn, people I think I'm slowly losing control of my life the staying light is taking over.:confused:

    Anyone else have the same feeling:confused:[/QUOTE[/I]

    Well I think I may be becoming one. For the last 3 days at work all I've done all day is surf the web trying to find reviews/formulas/suggestions etc. And tonight... right now it's 2 am and I'm still searching. I really want to buy the HQ 10% but the mono site is so expensive... then I saw info about glycolic acid... so now I'm losing my mind trying to figure out where I can get all of this stuff!!

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