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  • Aug 14, 2009, 04:08 PM
    dessaml
    Yes, yes, that's nice... but I'm not going to get the color I want to be or even out my screwed up hyperpigmented face by putting a slice of lemon on my face for 30mins a day. At least not in a timely fashion, I don't want to have to do that for the rest 10yrs to get 1 shade lighter... of course I exaggerate but you get the idea...
  • Aug 15, 2009, 12:27 PM
    kammiepooh
    If you have a problem with scars or spots on your face or body then this sounds great! But if you use a skin whitener to lighten your complexion full body, in order to change who you are as some of the statements here suggest, then I think you need a session with a therapist to determine why you want to change yourself. Many people of color strive to change themselves due to pressure in our society that heightens the appeal to be white or light skinned. Commercials and videos cater to light skinned girls perpetrating that it's cool or good to be light. Keep your dark skin! The darker the better- our dark brown ancestors were beautiful and people in present day Africa, Asia and India are just beautiful!!
  • Aug 15, 2009, 12:47 PM
    kammiepooh
    I really am dumb found to see so many people who desire to lighten their body color!!
    There is something really scary about this! Girls learn to love yourselves as God made you! Again! As my last post mentioned! Dark skin is B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!! ACCEPT it!
    Revel and Delight in it!! And others will too!! Life is too short and other things too important to dwell on such matters.
  • Aug 15, 2009, 01:18 PM
    davonte44
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamjohn View Post
    I use a cream called Eliminer and pills. I have been using these products for a year now and my skin has gone from medium brown to very light olive. The cream is expensive but work quite quickly but the pills took about 3 months before i saw a difference. There is nothing toxic in these products i am very pleased with them i am asian and eliminer products are great. I bought from Fair & Flawless but they sell toxic products that really damaged my skin.
    The eliminer pills and cream have not only repaired the damage but have made my skin sooo
    light. I found them on the net eliminer I am so happy now:):):):):)

    Cream is really expensive for that much and seems like they don't have lots of testimonies from customers... hmmmmm... idk...
  • Aug 15, 2009, 08:17 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kammiepooh View Post
    I really am dumb found to see so many people who desire to lighten their body color !!!
    There is something really scary about this !! Girls learn to love yourselves as God made you !!Again !! As my last post mentioned! Dark skin is B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L !!!! ACCEPT it !!
    Revel and Delight in it !!! and others will too !!!! Life is too short and other things too important to dwell on such matters.

    Kammiepooh thanks for your concern, but what I am about to say I have mentioned in another thread. So I'll paste the message here:

    You ask why some desire to change their physical appearance when you have unsuccessfully tried to change yours... for different reasons of course... but, the fact remains the same.

    The point is that you still attempted to change your skin by using self tanners to appear artificially darker. I am not saying you are wrong for this to darken your skin, as this is your right. Just as it is everyone else right if they desire to look lighter. I understand you ask this question because you have not been in this situation. So, I will try and explain.

    Most of us are not trying to become a different race, that is physically impossible, but to achieve a lighter tone. For many, it isn't to lighten just for the heck of it, I'm sure they have their reasons to. You first have to also question societies around the world and in our communities why do they mistreat those who are not light, even those from the same group. All colors are equally beautiful as we are all created equal, but we all are not treated equally. Even for those who wish to not change their tone, whether they are fair, yellow, red, brown, or dark brown, which is completely their desire and is fine. Safety when altering anything on the body is important, as I am struggling to find better products.

    Also, those who question "why lighten" must also question "why tan, why artificially tan, why perm the hair, why straighten the hair, why get nose jobs, dye the hair a different color, and colored contacts, lip injections, butt implants, even tattoos, wigs, " etc. etc... Humanity is always trying to alter their appearance and for one to say someone shouldn't and the other can, is hypocritical. I do not believe people MUST alter their appearance, but if they wish to or not, either way they have their reasons.
  • Aug 17, 2009, 01:44 AM
    choc-lit

    BANGING answer Golden Girl!!

    No need for me to say anything lol
  • Aug 17, 2009, 10:37 AM
    lighterrr

    Nikki

    I tried the sefi white and it made my legs high yellow but burned my face and I got darker, any suggestion what I can mix it with
  • Aug 17, 2009, 02:54 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    nikki

    i tried teh sefi white and it made my legs high yellow but burned my face and i got darker, any suggestion what i can mix it with

    lighterrr: Did you mix your own formula with the sepiwhite or was it the fair and flawless you used that has sepiwhite as the ingredient?


    Choclit: Thanks!
  • Aug 17, 2009, 07:58 PM
    kammiepooh
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by choc-lit View Post
    BANGING answer Golden Girl!!!!!!

    no need for me to say anything lol



    I dare everyone on this site to read a book or even take a few moments to broaden your horizons by watching National Geographic- or do ANYTHING constructive to enlighten yourselves on the history of your heritage. You have let white society enslave you once again-not your body-but your minds. You are all obsessed with this ridiculous ritual of lightening your skin. DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE FOR YOURSELVES AND SOCIETY!!
    I will not waste any more of my precious time responding to any one of you!! Or by reading your posts or responses. I have a productive life- GET ONE!!
  • Aug 17, 2009, 08:41 PM
    davonte44
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kammiepooh View Post
    I dare everyone on this site to read a book or even take a few moments to broaden your horizons by watching National Geographic- or do ANYTHING constructive to enlighten yourselves on the history of your heritage. You have let white society enslave you once again-not your body-but your minds. You are all obsessed with this ridiculous ritual of lightening your skin. DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE FOR YOURSELVES AND SOCIETY !!!
    I will not waste any more of my precious time responding to any one of you !!! Or by reading your posts or responses. I have a productive life- GET ONE !!!!!!

    Why can't you mind your own business!. we are all grown up here... and we know what we want... I am even white myself but just need to lighten up... WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!. if you are watching NATGEO... gud for you... it means you need it... but not us

    GROW UP!. AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!. OK!
  • Aug 17, 2009, 09:18 PM
    kammiepooh
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by davonte44 View Post
    why can't u mind your own business!!!........we are all grown up here....and we know what we want........I am even white myself but just need to lighten up.......WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!!!........if u are watchin NATGEO......gud 4 u ...it means u need it...but not us

    GROW UP!!!........AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!....OK!


    I AM grown. Maybe you should take a class or something-so you can respond intelligently!!
  • Aug 17, 2009, 09:31 PM
    davonte44
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kammiepooh View Post
    I AM grown. Maybe you should take a class or something-so you can respond intelligently !!!

    Intelligently!. huh!. is that what u call it cannot even mind your own Business!. com on... I think u need to take a class to help u stop bud in to People's Business... if u cannot do what we do... Chill!. and Peace Out!. go start your own thread for your own Issue!. or whatever u trying to deal with...
  • Aug 17, 2009, 09:34 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kammiepooh View Post
    I dare everyone on this site to read a book or even take a few moments to broaden your horizons by watching National Geographic- or do ANYTHING constructive to enlighten yourselves on the history of your heritage. You have let white society enslave you once again-not your body-but your minds. You are all obsessed with this ridiculous ritual of lightening your skin. DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE FOR YOURSELVES AND SOCIETY !!!
    I will not waste any more of my precious time responding to any one of you !!! Or by reading your posts or responses. I have a productive life- GET ONE !!!!!!

    Kammiepooh that was a lame comment you made, as well as prejudging one's own actions. I rarely watch tv and when I do I only watch Discover, Nat Geo, History Channel, CNN, MSNBC. And I am definitely a book worm and bet I have more books in one room than you had in 1 lifetime. I also enjoy creating websites, programming, and action scripts as I am a web designer..so to misapprehend one's intelligence is a fallacy on your part. To categorize everyone here as one race or ethnic group is stereotypical and judgemental. We come from all backgrounds, all colors, and all nationalities.

    It doesn't make you any better coming on this forum every waking hour of the day harassing the other members. Did you read my previous post carefully that I had written to you? Please re-read it for clarification purposes before you are reported. Please find another forum to harass or read a few intellectual literatures at your local library. Peace.;)
  • Aug 18, 2009, 08:37 AM
    Shy-too
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weezing View Post
    Ok this thread is for all people using safe and natural products who are willing to keep the board members updated with their results. If you use Bio Claire or anything that contains hydroquinone, mercury, or any other harmful ingredients, this thread is NOT FOR YOU! If your are using a product and you are unsure about the ingredients, post the ingredients here and I along with other concerned members will do research on the ingredients. People are tired of using products that are puting their health at risk unknowingly (amazingly some dont even care, they just want to be white/lighter) and today we are going to end this!

    After my sitaution with Bio Claire I decided to go natural and I'm glad I did!
    Starting Monday I will be using gluta-blend soap (a soap that is blended with kojic acid, glutathione, and rosehip oil. It is also good at exfoliating and micropeeling) and istant skin whitening effect lotion ( a lotion that contain high dosage of kojic acid and glutathion aswell as rosehip oil and other safe ingredients) and will update you on my progress. I was kinda concerned about the high dosage of kojic acid in the lotion but I searched for reviews on the product and users have seeing amazing results. Although the results were not instant ( 1 1/2 weeks before they seen results) they seen amazing results. And the bottles last 3 weeks if used all over. ITs actually the bet seller on the amira website I orderd from and I must say the amira website is amazing because it only sells natural safe products! Goggle amira majic for the website.


    So feel free to post ingredients that your unsure about or comment/review on safe products you are using or have used.

    HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE! JOIN THE NATURAL MOVEMENT!:D


    *MODS PLEASE DONT DELETE THIS THREAD BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THIS THREAD WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE*

    Hi, I'm considering the South Beach Skin Solutions for the more sensitive areas as my nipples, and pubic areas have darkened since pregnancy and not returned to my normal skin colour. Has anyone tried it or can anyone offer advice. I also seem to suffer from hyperpigmentation, where minor cuts and scratches darken when it heals and takes years to go away. Even my legs have darkened pores even though I wax. Will South Beach Skin Sol help for this as well... or should I use something else for that?
  • Aug 18, 2009, 08:37 AM
    Shy-too
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    Hey, can you post your before and after photos so we can see your progress.

    Hi, I'm considering the South Beach Skin Solutions for the more sensitive areas as my nipples, and pubic areas have darkened since pregnancy and not returned to my normal skin colour. Has anyone tried it or can anyone offer advice. I also seem to suffer from hyperpigmentation, where minor cuts and scratches darken when it heals and takes years to go away. Even my legs have darkened pores even though I wax. Will South Beach Skin Sol help for this as well... or should I use something else for that?
  • Aug 18, 2009, 03:01 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shy-too View Post
    Hi, i'm considering the South Beach Skin Solutions for the more sensitive areas as my nipples, and pubic areas have darkened since pregnancy and not returned to my normal skin colour. Has anyone tried it or can anyone offer advice. i also seem to suffer from hyperpigmentation, where minor cuts and scratches darken when it heals and takes years to go away. even my legs have darkened pores even tho i wax. will South Beach Skin Sol help for this as well...or shud i use something else for that?

    I'm familiar with South Beach Skin Solutions. But from looking at their active ingredients, they are good in helping the lightening process and discolorations:

    Vitamin C (Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate)
    Licorice (Glycyrrhiza Glabra Root Extract)
    Bearberry leaf extract (Arctostaphylos Uva Ursi Leaf Extract)

    So you can give it a try if you like and tell us your progress. I also have hyperpigmentation and was unalbe to lighten them with lightening creams. From what I was told, I would have to use a TCA peel to remove the dead skin first, and then use retin-a (tretinoine) and a good lightening cream to help them to lighten and prevent from getting dark.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 07:54 PM
    Indian Princess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamjohn View Post
    I use a cream called Eliminer and pills. I have been using these products for a year now and my skin has gone from medium brown to very light olive. The cream is expensive but work quite quickly but the pills took about 3 months before i saw a difference. There is nothing toxic in these products i am very pleased with them i am asian and eliminer products are great. I bought from Fair & Flawless but they sell toxic products that really damaged my skin.
    The eliminer pills and cream have not only repaired the damage but have made my skin sooo
    light. I found them on the net eliminer I am so happy now:):):):):)

    You such an obvious spammer. That eliminer site looks so sketcy!
  • Aug 18, 2009, 07:57 PM
    Indian Princess

    Bearberry leaves cream for 97 euros? Dr.theanna has a sulpur pill and she is real doctor who even wrote a book on skin lightening.
    Spammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • Aug 19, 2009, 12:48 AM
    Shy-too
    How has your progress been since you've started? I'm thinking of using South Beach Skin Solution and will let you know how that goes
  • Aug 19, 2009, 09:24 AM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Indian Princess View Post
    You such an obvious spammer. That eliminer site looks so sketcy!!

    You saw that too right? LOL!
    It's also obvious because these people make a couple of posts and someone calls them out on it POOF! There gone...

    Wheres abbycute?
    Wheres whiteandlight?
    Wheres shantifive?

    I bet adamjohn's not coming back to this site/thread anymore.
    (at least not under that user name).
    Now the site does not come up anymore, it's a blank page.
    Oh boy!
  • Aug 22, 2009, 08:13 AM
    divalisheus
    Hello Nikkicute,
    You seem very knowledgeable about skincare. I enjoyed reading your posts. I've always wondered how to dissolve or melt Sepiwhite into lotions and creams. How do you melt it and how do you check the Ph?
  • Aug 22, 2009, 08:13 AM
    divalisheus
    Hello Nikkicute,
    You seem very knowledgeable about skincare. I enjoyed reading your posts. I've always wondered how to dissolve or melt Sepiwhite into lotions and creams. How do you melt it and how do you check the Ph?
  • Aug 22, 2009, 09:17 AM
    weezing

    Well my funky mmmy kojic acid lotion arrived Friday I took a shower exfoliated well and the lotion is very easy to apply it smells good and you can feel the difference after one use. My skin is very soft! I just hope I start to lighten/whiten soon that will be awesome.
  • Aug 23, 2009, 07:04 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by divalisheus View Post
    Hello Nikkicute,
    You seem very knowledgeable about skincare. I enjoyed reading your posts. I've always wondered how to dissolve or melt Sepiwhite into lotions and creams. How do you melt it and how do you check the Ph?

    Buy ph strips you can Google search and buy them of the net, after I messed up my first batch and made it to strong I won't mess with sephi white again until I get the correct ph strips to help guide me and I think you should do the same.
  • Aug 23, 2009, 10:07 AM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by divalisheus View Post
    Hello Nikkicute,
    You seem very knowledgeable about skincare. I enjoyed reading your posts. I've always wondered how to dissolve or melt Sepiwhite into lotions and creams. How do you melt it and how do you check the Ph?

    Who me:confused:
    I've never tried to make a Sepiwhite cream myself, I've always purchased my cream from Fair and Flawless. Lighterrr is the one with the mixing and melting experience.
  • Aug 24, 2009, 12:24 AM
    lighterrr

    Yes I did mix the cream and I made it to strong and I still have the dark skin pathces to prove it, if your going to mix make sure you follow the instructions well and also that you get ph testing strips otherwise you may do more harm than good to yourself or just buy the cream except the cream is kind of expensive in comparission to buying the powder and making the cream yourself
  • Aug 26, 2009, 10:16 AM
    fairr

    Hey
    I don't understand sorry
    Can someone enlighten me on what this sepiwhite is? :S
    Thanks
  • Aug 26, 2009, 03:35 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fairr View Post
    hey
    i don't understand sorry
    can someone enlighten me on what this sepiwhite is? :S
    thanks

    Hi Fairr. Sepiwhite is known to be a good and safe lightening agent made of natural amino acids. Its also known as "SkinWhite MSH" and "Undecylenoyl phenylalanine" is it's INCI name. It works by counteracting the alpha-MSH and inhibiting the enzyme tyrosinase, they are responsible for our color. I have also read that with continued use, can make the skin very smooth as it helps remove dead skin cells as well. You can buy it online in a powdered form to mix with your own formulated cream but it must be melted first. It is one of the main active ingredients Fair & Flawless use in their products. But they can be very costly, so by purchasing the raw active is a more affordable. Option You can read more about it here What is it: Sepiwhite
  • Aug 26, 2009, 06:10 PM
    beautifulskin

    Hello all I was just wondering if anyone can tell me which all natural skin lightener I can use to lighten my melasma??
  • Aug 27, 2009, 08:56 AM
    fairr

    Thanks golden girl your always so helpful!
  • Aug 27, 2009, 02:56 PM
    Golden_Girl
    No prob Fairr, glad I could help.


    Beautifulskin the only one that I have experience using that worked and w/ mostly natural ingredients was the makari night cream. But, they can be costly and gives some people breakouts, but it did lighten my melasma and skin tone overall. So, I'm still searching and testing others so if it works I'll let everyone know.
  • Aug 27, 2009, 05:55 PM
    beautifulskin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    No prob Fairr, glad I could help.


    Beautifulskin the only one that I have experience using that worked and w/ mostly natural ingredients was the makari night cream. But, they can be costly and gives some people breakouts, but it did lighten my melasma and skin tone overall. So, I'm still searching and testing others so if it works I'll let everyone know.

    Okay sounds good I actually asked a friend and she recommended one to me that she said is working really well for her so, I think I will order that one and I will let you know how it works for me.
  • Aug 27, 2009, 06:12 PM
    so sexy
    Yes I just ordered a sample from makari, but I too plan on ordering the night cream. I also want to try Christaline, which seems to be hard to find. Today I went out and purchased sum things until I make the purchase from makari and christaline
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beautifulskin View Post
    Okay sounds good I actually asked a friend and she recommended one to me that she said is working really well for her so, I think I will go ahead and order that one and I will let you know how it works for me.

  • Aug 28, 2009, 09:44 AM
    Golden_Girl
    So sexy are you buying your Christaline at a local store or online?

    Beautifulskin and So sexy remember to test the crème on your skin first to see how your skin will react to it.
  • Aug 28, 2009, 09:50 AM
    so sexy
    HI Goldenn girl,
    I have'nt found it locally and I can't seem to find it online. Do you now of any place online?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    So sexy are you buying your Christaline at a local store or online?

    Beautifulskin and So sexy remember to test the creme on your skin first to see how your skin will react to it.

  • Aug 28, 2009, 10:04 AM
    Golden_Girl
    I have googled it and saw some places who are selling it just to check out the product, but I haven't checked the reputations of the companies yet, as you have to be picky with them. I was hoping to see if it was sold at the store sooner or later, cause I can't recall seeing it there before?
  • Aug 28, 2009, 10:41 AM
    so sexy
    I've called some locals with no results, the only place I've seen that sells it online is Texas beauty... but they seem to be sold out
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    I have googled it and saw some places who are selling it just to check out the product, but I havent checked the reputations of the companies yet, as you have to be picky with them. I was hoping to see if it was sold at the store sooner or later, cause I can't recall seeing it there before?

  • Aug 28, 2009, 05:23 PM
    beautifulskin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    So sexy are you buying your Christaline at a local store or online?

    Beautifulskin and So sexy remember to test the creme on your skin first to see how your skin will react to it.

    GoldenGirl thanks for the advice and I will make sure to do that but, this stuff supposed to be natural so I don't think it will harm my skin. I placed my order for the cream and the gel last night hopefully it will work twice as fast. My friend just raves about it so, hopefully it will work for me. Keep your fingers crossed!!
  • Aug 28, 2009, 06:02 PM
    so sexy
    beautifulskin where did you order from?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beautifulskin View Post
    GoldenGirl thanks for the advice and I will make sure to do that but, this stuff supposed to be natural so I don't think it will harm my skin. I placed my order for the cream and the gel last night hopefully it will work twice as fast. My friend just raves about it so, hopefully it will work for me. Keep your fingers crossed!!!

  • Aug 28, 2009, 06:30 PM
    lighterrr

    What is crystaline?

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