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  • Jun 30, 2009, 06:38 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkicute View Post
    Yes I do favor Fair and Flawless as the best natural product for skin lightening
    that I have used, I don't think the price (of the facial cream) is not that bad
    and you can't always go by what your friend or others have said about a
    product, what may not work for your friend may just be perfect for you.

    Before Fair and Flawless I used Hydroquinone products and I still have no
    problem with those. I think Fair and Flawless was the first natural skin lightener I used.

    But I do like to try others, Diana Stalder worked for me, African Queen worked, Hollywood Secret Cream worked ect.. Most skin lightening products
    work for me except for two of them, one I tried to make myself and another
    one I bought called Skin Bleach by The Spa Basin but this cream looked
    just like the homemade cream I tried to make, you can see bits of the powder
    in the cream, it did not dissolve well, that's probably why it did not work for
    me.

    One cream I have always wanted to try is Godiva Skin Lightening Cream. I've
    known about this product for years but have not tried it yet, I heard it works
    best on asian skin but I still wanted to see for myself because they do have a
    couple of testimonials on their site who are not asian posting it worked for them.


    What is the active ingredients in this fair and flawless
  • Jul 1, 2009, 03:05 AM
    nikkicute
    The active ingredient in Fair and Flawless is Sepiwhite.
    I just got a jar and I see they changed the formula of the cream again.
    I don't like it!! It feels like a gel now instead of a cream, I think it's the aloe vera gel they added, I don't think that was in the cream before. I remember way back when I think I read in a magazine that
    Aloe was good for the skin and I went and bought a small jar. Right
    After you apply it, you can touch your skin and it feels a bit sticky.
    It took a while for it to absorb, that's how this new cream feels.

    It's going to take a little getting used to but I'm still going to use it. I
    Wonder if they have any left over jars of the old formula?

    I purchased some aloe vera juice one time, bought a big half gallon at
    Wal-Mart. Goodness... the things I used to do to get clear skin!! Lol
  • Jul 1, 2009, 08:48 PM
    gretmoe

    Maybe you guys can help me with this prob. I'm new to this forum and I'd like to know what you guys think about my problem. I'm hispanic and have an olive/dk tan complexion. I love my natural color as I'd never want to be white but my forearms have gotten so dark this summer that I look two toned! My chest, tummy and legs are my regular olive/tan color but my arms are a very dark brown. What should I do to make my arms match my chest and upper arms? I hate that I can't wear sleeveless tops cz my arms are two toned - I kind of have a farmers tan! HELP!! Thanks in advance
  • Jul 1, 2009, 09:25 PM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gretmoe View Post
    maybe you guys can help me with this prob. I'm new to this forum and I'd like to know what you guys think about my problem. I'm hispanic and have an olive/dk tan complexion. I love my natural color as I'd never want to be white but my forearms have gotten so dark this summer that I look two toned! My chest, tummy and legs are my regular olive/tan color but my arms are a very dark brown. What should I do to make my arms match my chest and upper arms? I hate that I can't wear sleeveless tops cz my arms are two toned - I kinda have a farmers tan! HELP!!! Thanx in advance

    I'm not too familiar with skin lightening lotions only skin lightening facial creams but that is what you'd need toget to lighten up your arms.

    Try some skin lightening lotions and don't forget the sunblock!
  • Jul 1, 2009, 09:58 PM
    lighterrr

    Nikki how much shades have you lightened with this cream
  • Jul 1, 2009, 10:17 PM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    nikki how much shades have you lightened with this cream

    Let me see...
    I have used the cream off and on, I need to be more consistent with my skin
    Regime because I keep wondering off trying other products.

    Sacha Cosmetics : Yellow based makeup foundation, liquid, cream foundation makeup.

    Scroll down and look at the different skin tones.

    I think I went from Perfect Spice to Perfect Honey. How many shades is that?
    My goal is Perfect Caramel. I know if I would have kept using it
    More, because I've read posts about it taking a couple months maybe a year
    To get to a really light shade. The problem with me is I keep stopping, try
    Another products or don't use any skin lightening creams at all.

    Now that I have incorporated Retin A into my routine which is really helping
    With the lightening and smoothing out my skin I think I can get there. And I
    Have to keep it up.

    Doesn't make any sense for me to buy all these products through the years,
    Lightening creams and peels and I still look the same because I was not consistent. I'm putting my foot down this time and sticking to it!!

    I really mean it this time. I really really do. LOL! :p
  • Jul 2, 2009, 05:05 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkicute View Post
    Let me see...
    I have used the cream off and on, I need to be more consistent with my skin
    regime because I keep wondering off trying other products.

    Sacha Cosmetics : Yellow based makeup foundation, liquid, cream foundation makeup.

    Scroll down and look at the different skin tones.

    I think I went from Perfect Spice to Perfect Honey. How many shades is that?
    My goal is Perfect Caramel. I know if I would have kept using it
    more, because I've read posts about it taking a couple months maybe a year
    to get to a really light shade. The problem with me is I keep stopping, try
    another products or don't use any skin lightening creams at all.

    Now that I have incorporated Retin A into my routine which is really helping
    with the lightening and smoothing out my skin I think I can get there. And I
    have to keep it up.

    Doesn't make any sense for me to buy all these products through the years,
    lightening creams and peels and I still look the same because I was not consistent. I'm putting my foot down this time and sticking to it!!!

    I really mean it this time. I really really do. LOL!!:p

    That's great results congrats girl, I'm going to try this sice its safe and natural only thing is that its really expensive so I'm going to order the powder and make my own as usual:D
  • Jul 3, 2009, 08:06 AM
    nikkicute
    The powder is 1.8oz / 50g ($43.90).
    The recipe calls for 2g to make a 2% cream.

    Recommended use level 1-2%, must be melted for use (best in oil phase of formula at 80oC/176oF). Optimal pH <5 or >6.2 for best incorporation into formulas. Insoluble but miscible in water

    Melt it with what:confused:
    How do you check the ph?
    Never mind...

    I rather purchase the cream 1oz ($49.95).
    No mixing, no melting, just open up the jar and enjoy.:D
  • Jul 3, 2009, 04:29 PM
    SugarBlush

    What product are you talking about? :confused:
  • Jul 3, 2009, 06:36 PM
    lighterrr

    Fair and flawless
  • Jul 3, 2009, 07:29 PM
    mepk5

    Lighterr?
    How's your skin?
  • Jul 5, 2009, 03:05 PM
    mepk5

    weezing
    What's some of the things u tried that didn't work for u?
  • Jul 6, 2009, 10:37 PM
    lighterrr

    My skin is SPOTTED and new spots popping up daily I'm just using natural stuff now to soon to tell if they are working
  • Jul 6, 2009, 10:48 PM
    nikkicute
    Are they white spots?
  • Jul 7, 2009, 08:57 PM
    lighterrr

    Yes they are white spots any suggestions nikki
  • Jul 8, 2009, 08:09 PM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    Yes they are white spots any suggestions nikki

    What have you been using that gave you white spots:confused:
  • Jul 10, 2009, 07:58 AM
    chandani

    hey nikicute.. its good to see your bak.. I haven't seen one of your posts in a while (mayb its just me not checking in)
    I have been using fair and flawless for the last 4 yearss... on and off.. mostly for my melasma.. it used to work great.. but left my skin so dry.. but then again I used their body 5X gel on my face.. it was like 150$ pretty expensive... but I thought it was worth

    I have used bio claire.. I still have it... but it didn't really do anything to me..
    godiva.. did not work..
    hq worked 4%...

    what is african queen and hollywood secret?

    I also want to be a perfect caramel... basically I am.. but my arms and feet have gotten so much darker that I look gross... but its so hard to lighten those areas.. I guess because there "rough" areas... I don't know

    I think I'm going to try the f&f again for a while lets see what happens..
  • Jul 10, 2009, 08:00 AM
    chandani

    Hey lighter

    U should bring me bak some of this movate cream lol
  • Jul 11, 2009, 01:40 AM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chandani View Post
    hey nikicute..its good to see ur bak..i havnt seen one of your posts in a while (mayb its just me not checking in)
    I have been using fair and flawless for the last 4 yearss...on and off..mostly for my melasma..it used to work great..but left my skin so dry..but then again i used their body 5X gel on my face.. it was like 150$ pretty expensive...but i thought it was worth

    i have used bio claire..i still have it...but it didnt really do anything to me..
    godiva..did not work..
    hq worked 4%....

    what is african queen and hollywood secret??

    I also want to be a perfect caramel...basically i am..but my arms and feet have gotten so much darker that i look gross...but its so hard to lighten those areas..i guess becuse ther "rough" areas...i dunno

    i think im going to try the f&f again for a while lets see what happens..

    Have we met or chatted before?
    Your ID does not look familiar to me, since I have not been here in a
    while I don't remember the regulars from before.

    You used the 5X gel on your face:eek:
    No wonder your skin was so dry!
    That gel is for the body only.

    Now I see they have come out with a 80xF Facial Whitening Gel:confused:
    I want to see the ingredients list first, they don't have on the site.

    Never tried Godiva or Bio Claire. Every time I see Bio Claire I keep thinking
    everybody is talking about Bio Oil because I've seen the commercial on t.v.
    The 4% hq cream worked great on my skin.

    African Queen is one of the many skin lightening creams I have used.
    No doubt it was a hq cream, the cream looked hot pink and smelled so good.

    Hollywood Secret Cream was the cream that brought me to the skin
    lightening boards in 2003. Before that I had no idea other people were
    like me, wanting to lighten their complexion.
    I first saw the cream online in 2000.
    The before and after pictures were unbelievable!

    Remember that show MARTIN ?
    With Martin Lawrence and Tisha Campbell.
    That's how the before and after pictures looked like, the lady in the
    before picture was the same complexion as Martin and then the after she
    looked like Tisha Campbell!

    I tried the product and it was working, a little bit of peeling came with it.
    Someone posted on the board that the cream smelled just like Clear Essence.
    Even though it came in a jar the product inside was like a lotion, I was not
    expecting that and almost spilled the whole thing.
    Just my luck that when I wanted to order some more they stopped making it
    and switched to making some lemon cream:rolleyes: Never heard of any
    lemon cream strong enough to lighten the skin, so I did not order.
  • Jul 12, 2009, 12:31 AM
    lighterrr

    Well I am going to make my own cream and see how it turns out ill let you guys know
  • Jul 12, 2009, 04:44 AM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    well i am gonna make my own cream and see how it turns out ill let you guys know

    How did you get white spots on your skin?
  • Jul 13, 2009, 02:32 AM
    lighterrr

    From using mono
  • Jul 13, 2009, 04:04 AM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    from using mono

    Ohhhhh.
    When did you stop using it?
    Just wondering why new spots keep popping up daily:confused:

    Are the spots on your body or your face?
    I guess your going to need a cream that will allow the spots to blend
    In with the rest of your skin so they won't be so noticeable.
  • Jul 14, 2009, 03:22 PM
    mepk5
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkicute View Post
    Ohhhhh.
    When did you stop using it?
    Just wondering why new spots keep popping up daily:confused:

    Are the spots on your body or your face?
    I guess your going to need a cream that will allow the spots to blend
    in with the rest of your skin so they won't be so noticeable.

    Yep I need a skin cream that will help the blending also. I was told to lower the mono! :mad:


    Okay Im putting it on my foot!!


    My spots r on my body only a few have moved up my neck behind my ear places where I didn't use it.
    This started after I stopped the mono!! :eek:
  • Jul 15, 2009, 03:38 AM
    imgorgeous

    All the best to you mepk I really , truly , genuinely hope this product works for you...
  • Jul 15, 2009, 04:30 PM
    PINKFASCINATION
    To lighterr

    You may be getting vitiligo. I would speak to a physician. If that's the case you need to decide if you want to tattoo the lite spots, use a make-up cover, depig the dark remaining areas. I hear that when an area depigments it can take up to a year to repig so the color will come back its just you deciding what to do until then. Two make-ups that cover flaws well is iman has a stick that's like the fashion fair coverage or estee lauder makes a mouse foundation that you put on with a brush and it looks flawless also dermablend was a great choice but I understand the company or the packaging has changed. They sell it at ulta. Just a few ideas.
  • Jul 16, 2009, 01:31 AM
    mepk5

    Thank U pink facination.
    Yep I was told tha'st what I had but I didn't have it before I used mono... it was the mono.
    Some spots r darkening w small dark spot inside the lighterr spots t I can tell the color will not come back there. Im looking into some Drs to depig or even up...
  • Jul 16, 2009, 09:04 AM
    nikkicute
    There is no such thing as "getting" vitiligo, either you have it or you
    Don't and no cream can cause you to "get" it.
    The mono cream just gave you the appearance of having it.
  • Jul 19, 2009, 05:10 PM
    mepk5

    I agree it was all about the money$$$ this guy sent in his asstiant after that quoted me 150 per area w 30 needed... so much for free consultations. Im going to see a new guy soon...
  • Jul 22, 2009, 06:33 PM
    choc-lit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by topace View Post
    HQ isnt available in the UK so I can't use it

    Hey topace
    HQ is available in the uk. Just ordered my powder of the internet.
  • Jul 25, 2009, 10:28 AM
    chandani
    Lighter do u recommend movate to lighten skin? Like a shade or two... my arms are sooo hard to lighten!
  • Jul 29, 2009, 09:15 PM
    Indian Princess
    OK, I take that back I tried the 80xf whitening gel from Fair & Flawless and yes it is working really great. It woeks much much better than the makari night cream.
  • Jul 30, 2009, 04:02 PM
    fashion1283
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chandani View Post
    lighter do u recommend movate to lighten skin? like a shade or two... my arms are sooo hard to lighten!

    Hey ladies haven't beenon here in a while! :)I wanted to ask the same thing about movate, does it really work or does anyone have any stories about it? Also does anyone know anything about rosance 18+ and maxi white serum? Please help I'm so confused:confused: I haven't yet begun to start the lightening process, I'm about kelly rowlands complexion and I just want to lighten a few shades, not a lot. What do you all recommend?
  • Jul 31, 2009, 02:11 PM
    ladydanielle

    ^^^ those products you are talking about aren't natural though, they contain hq
  • Aug 3, 2009, 11:46 AM
    fashion1283
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ladydanielle View Post
    ^^^ those products you are talking about arent natural tho, they contain hq

    Oh OK! Thanks I didn't know that:eek: so does nayone have any good suggestions on what products may work:confused: or is the fair and flawless the best way to go, although it is a little on the expensive side, I mean sheesh! :p
  • Aug 3, 2009, 09:57 PM
    nikkicute
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fashion1283 View Post
    oh ok! thanks i didnt know that:eek: so does nayone have any good suggestions on what products may work:confused: or is the fair and flawless the best way to go, although it is a little on the expensive side, i mean sheesh! :p

    I just ordered the Fair & Flawless 5XF Intensive Skin Whitening Gel and the
    Crème`De Laser Concentrated Skin Whitening Cream. I will be working to lighten up my arms and hands especially elbows and knuckles. My elbows really need help!

    I can tell my hands have darkened, I need to find a good lotion that is both moisturizing and has a high SPF. I can't apply the same sunblock to my hands that I apply to my face, it's too drying and I cannot stand when my hands are dry!

    Hey ladydanielle we meet again! LOL:p
  • Aug 7, 2009, 01:34 PM
    fashion1283
    I've read in other forums that using kojic acid and alpha arbutin is a safe and effective way to go to lighten your overall complexion, and that the l'maj vita pack is also effective, slow working and a little pricey but effective. I think I'm going to try those two options
  • Aug 8, 2009, 12:07 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Nikkicute (Fair & Flawless 5XF Intensive Skin Whitening Gel and the
    Crème`De Laser Concentrated Skin Whitening Cream) and Fashion1283 (kojic acid/alpha arbutin/l'maj vita pack) please keep us updated with how your regimine is working for you. I have not taken those routes but looking for something really effective.

    I saw the Movate products at the store today and it looked too sketchy..
  • Aug 8, 2009, 12:12 AM
    nikkicute
    I thought Movate was on the "do not use list" of skin lightening products.
    Or was it Hot Movate? I thought it was dangerous.
  • Aug 8, 2009, 02:09 PM
    fashion1283
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    Nikkicute (Fair & Flawless 5XF Intensive Skin Whitening Gel and the
    Crème`De Laser Concentrated Skin Whitening Cream) and Fashion1283 (kojic acid/alpha arbutin/l'maj vita pack) please keep us updated with how your regimine is working for you. I have not taken those routes but looking for something really effective.

    I saw the Movate products at the store today and it looked too sketchy..

    OK I will keep you all posted. Keeping my fingers crossed:)

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