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Hi guys I have been reading about swiss pills I emailed the company about the claims that the pills are not good they said the claims were lies!! (not that I thought they would hold there hand up to the claim"!! )
Any way is any one using any pills and have they seen any resulds if so please advice everyone else about them
Also it would be nice to know about pills that have not worked
Thanks
Take care
Hey lotti. I'm going to order off ganda. They're the only one's with "Active white" so I'm going to go with them. But I've got a question for you, when it comes to ordering the pills, and they send you to something called "Zoom", how do you order from there.. When they ask about the country, do you say the phillipiens.. or the country I'm from... I've never used "zoom" so I'm not sure if they're asking if I send to or from..? Please get back to me ASAP. Thanks.
Skinwhite, they actually do look like dark pantyhose. At first I thought one was blk and the other white
… geeez what some people would do for money!
And yes, please do inform us about what your dermatologist says, if you get the thumbs-up I may try myself and also use creams just to speed up the process.
Thanks!
Uksearch. I've tried makari and they broke my face out!! My face just started to clear back up after I STOPPED using it. I think you can get acne from it. Some people have good results I guess, but they could just be people who work for them so... I don't trust them. A total waste of money. The pills are also dangerous! Someone in a previous entry explained how and found the ingrediant that's not edible... Your choice though. I nolonger trust any cream, etc. Makari I been hearing has steroids in it. But that don't let it be really known. If you DO decide to buy it, have it tested!! Only L-glutathione has the chance to really work long term-wise.
Anyway, Spyyder. You're right about just getting L-glutathione from a place you know is legit. I'm thinking about that also, 'cause Ganda has failed to get back to my replies/emails. I've ordered a bottle of "twin lab" L-glutathione off the net. It's not sold as a whitening pill, but a vitamin of an online drug store. Until I find a pharmacy locally that sells it in large doses, I'll be taking these for now. I'm actually going to make the mixture myself.
"active white ingredients: 500mg L - glutathione, 250mg Vit. C , 250mg Grapeseed Extract
I've gotten 3 bottles of VC off the net (vitamin store) 1000 mg each cap (100 caps per bottle)
I've gotten a bottle of 250 L-glutathione (but I'll take 2 caps @ a time which will make 500mg)
I'm about to order Grapeseed extract when I can (searching right now).
And I'll be starting in about three days when everything is delivered: I'll be taking from 1500mg-2000mg of L-glutathione daily (much more than my needed dosage, but I want to make the process go faster. This better work!! It's about the only safe alternative. Wish me luck.
Yeah, Monica; you are probably right. I never looked at it that way. I will still try to give it a shot though :p
UKsearch, you might want to search a lot of reviews on Makari before purchasing from them. Also, I know you are anxious, and so are all of us. Just try and take your time before making a decision so you won't regret anything~
And Yellowgal, I guess it really doesn't matter WHO you get the pills from, as long as the same ingredients are still there. Congrats on the end of your search and good luck on your homemade cocktails!
I am still real interested in those Averyskin (sp?) pills. I would like to find out how much l-glutathione they put in each pill...
~Real
I doubt my search is over, but we'll see what happens with this concoction. It's safe, so whatever happens, no side effects! Let me know if any of you have found something new. :) Good luck everyone!
:) Hey guys thank for the info of Makari they do pills to... But I think I will be going for the lucida DS they seem to have won me
Can any one explain to me how much I need to take my current weight it 55kg
Lotti how is you skin colour going?
Granda look good but I'm not too sue about they the pills they have displayed on there web page look a bit scary!! (The blue ones)
Hope to hear from you soon
Hi uksearch; :D
For some guyz on this side, specially the "new one`s", it would be better and helpful to read all the replys before they ask the same questions again and again!! :eek:
Well all this questions (particularly about the use) are still answered :p ; you can even find them on the homepage of unitedshelter! :rolleyes:
However uksearch your body-weight is 55kg.
55kg x 20mg to 40mg = between 1100mg to 2200mg l-glutathione
together with 2200mg to 4400mg Vit C.
in 3 divided dosis over one day 30min. For a meal!!
All right? ;)
... and use a sunblocker (20 to 30) -not to strong-
uksearch it`s up to you, which l-glutathione you will order/buy.
If you order Lucida DS you will find out that their bottle doesn`t look like the one you see on their homepage!
I have heard the japense l-glutathione (Ishigake / ultrawhite / the "blue one`s") are stronger.
Well I am changing now every month ( one month Ishigaki the other Lucida DS) because I have read somewhere it`s good to change after a some time.
Probably I will give up a statement about my results and experience together with l-glutathione/vit C. pills as a skinwhitener in August 2005!
NOW it`s still to early for a evidence / judgement!!
Ciao LOTTI!!
ps.: forget "pallit" and all this stuff!!
Neither you could find out much about the ingredients of their product
nor how "it" should block the production of melatonin.
You will not even find a person on this side which have used it on their
own (it`s to new; 2005). If you want experience, try it on yourself,
waste your money and inform us! THANXS!!
Guyz there is no "wonder-medicine" outside and if someone/a company discover something news in this case of skin lightening the ingredients are not top secret because there is a patent!
Hey I sent an email to Avre Skin Care the Pallid pills and creams this the reply:-
If I order online how long will it take for the pills to arrive in the
> uk?
Based on feedback from clients in the United Kingdom, it takes between
7 and 21 days for a parcel to be received.>
I am due to get married in three months and want to lighten 2-3 shades
> will this really work I have used the speed white and had no luck?
Unfortunately, our tablets will not make you white. The lightest that they
will make your skin is the color that appears under the arm, near the armpit.
It is extremely important to make sunscreen a part of your daily beauty
Routine (even when cloudy or overcast) as this not only prevents premature
Aging of the skin but also prevents dark or blemished skin from becoming
Any darker.
Our products are natural and do NOT bleach the skin but, rather work to
Reduce the reproduction of Melanin which is responsible for dark skin.
IMPORTANT:
Although you appear to be desperate to lighten your skin, we do NOT
Recommend the use of any products that contain Hydroquinone.
The short term benefits of Hydroquinone are that it bleaches the skin
And therefore works very fast and can be noticeable in a short space
Of time.
One of the possible side effects of Hydroquinone is "Exogenous Ochronosis",
Which can cause progressive darkening of the area to which it is applied.
When this side effect occurs histologically, degeneration of collagen and
Elastic fibers occurs.
This degeneration is followed by the appearance of characteristic ochronotic
Deposits consisting of crescent-shaped, ochre-colored fibers in the skin
(dermis) scattered around in smaller clumps as darker pigmentation.
This can be unsightly and permanent scarring can take place.
We trust and hope that the above answers your questions.
Kind Regards
Ruth Davy
Hey lotti I think I will be gpoing for the dranda dr james ones.
Also Lucida DS look japense to whick makes me think the manf is janpan based!! I guess not.
I will keep you all posted to my findings
Hi spyyder... :D
Read my last reply and you will find out that I use l-glutathione from unitedshelter (Lucida Ds) & l-glutathione from ganda (Ishigaki / ultrawhite).
I am changing! All right ;)
And this is real l-glutathione there is pharmacy-company behind!! :p
He uksearch, you really want to get married?
Heu lotti yes I really do cnt wait!
Hey lotti,
Glad to hear your seeing results. Hope everything goes well for you. Im thinking of getting the pills. I don't get how many pills should be taken? :confused: I weigh about 115, I'm 5'4.
Congrats uksearch! :)
Hey Lotti. My I am glad that I was able to find some good support. I am sort of new to this. I have been using creams for years. Some work but its consists of a lot of time for a daily routine... You guys seem to know a lot about the pills. I was very disopointed to discover that the swiss whitening does not work. Or does it work not work for everyone. I am in the U.S. and I orderd the Swiss whitening last Month. I am down on the last 5 or 6 pills. And Just placed another last week. I an going to give it a try. So what are you using. My skin is naturally the color of the a brown paper dag. But all I want is to even out my over all skin color to a golden brown maybe two shades lighter. Do you think L-Gluthione is right for me? I have a class reunion in October. Do you think that that will be enough time. Look forward to your response.
Hii, Im adis... Im new here... thanks god that I found this web.. I've been searching everything that can make my skin whiter for a long time.. I've tried everything to make my skin changes, but I always disappointed. I want ask to lottie, why you said that kazumi was fake? And what about ganda? Does ganda's works for you? Help me cause I need something quick to make my skin whiter.I'm going married this year on desember , Lottie can U give me some advice which product should I take... thanks
Hi
Im an indian in the uk I were born here in the uk and my skin is tanned I just want to lighten my skin slightly because all of my family is lighter then me.
Im qurious on this site every 1 is chatting about l-gluthione and vit c I'm thinking of taking this but "NObody" on this site has actually said that it works id like just 1 person to say that yeah I've been taking this stuff and it really has made my skin lighter but I haven't read 1 post saying that maybe I missed quite a few,
I don't trust the people that are selling the product because they will say anything to make you buy it.
"SO PLEASE ANY 1 WHO HAS HAD SKIN LIGHTENING RESULTS USING L-GLUTHIONE + VIT C PLEASE POST NOW" :confused:
And if no one has had skin lightening results then I don't see the point of carrying on this thread or talking about it because you might be all going on the wrong track and this thread is a mission to read.
Also if any 1 has had results could they posibly post some pics!!
2005 sorry.
Yes 500-700mg is too little!! It was to expensive from the chemist`s shop around the next corner. 100mg $ 1.45.
Hi gazwick...
Well it`s great that you find such a pill!!
But when can you give us more information?
How much did this pills & soaps coast you?
Is there no information at bottle with the pills you get?
It would be rather helpful if you could inform us with more details!
Thanks Lotti
Hii gazwick... Im so glad that finely someone found something true about skinwhitening.. please gazwick, can you give the information about those pills? Can I have it in indonesia, Cause I think I can't go to see your doctor, how much are they?(the pill,the soap,etc)Please2 gazwick can u give the information sooner. Cozz I really need those pill, as you know that Im going married on desember.. thanks before..
lottie, how's your skin , are there any result? (about the ganda's product).. thanks about your explanation... But I really2 need something true to make the skin whiter and quick... I really wait about the information about something true to make the skin colour channge..
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Originally Posted by gazwick
You have a phone number so that you can call him right? Hollywood is local to me, so if you are too shy to call, tell me who he is and I will call him myself.
Hi guyz :D
... believe me only pills (l-glutathione) could may help to solve our problem!! :eek:
Skin whitener such as hydorquinone, kojac acid, arbutin tretinon and other bleaching agents have no depigmentation effect on normal skin.
They are used to treat hyperpigmentation disorder such as melasma and postinflammatory hyperpigmentation.
Long-term use on large skin area may pose health risks and may induce post inflammatory hyperpigmentation!!
Peeling and laser treatment may induce post inflammatory disorders (could further darken your skin)!!
Well I`m using l-gluatthione the right way now since 2 month.
I could not see any results but maybe the starting process of lightening take more time.
It is nice to see that also kazumi watch this side. Maybe he is right.
I hope so! He seems to me to be onest. He had also the possibility to say he his a customer of kazumi and had bíg success with a other name.
Forget gazwick there is no wonder pill!!
Why did he/she did not give us more information??
Ciao Lotti
Atlas nice picture of you. Sorry, I could not understand your skin problem.
Pretty nice woman. Did you have already a boyfriend? ;)
Hi,
I am new to all this. Can someone suggest some pills that have shown them some results.
K
Hey guys... I am brand new to the forum!
Like you here.. I am very interested in permanent skin whitening.
But I read on here someone (I think lotti?) was saying that the seller kazumi is a fake and no good... Is this really true?
Because I brought 5 months supply whitening pills from him.. & now I'm worried that they won't work :(
I have taken 2 months so far and have not noticed any changes.
Please please reply to this as sooooon as you can!
Best wishes xxx
Guyz nice blush going on here.looks like am back. Guess what.Have been using the L_GLUTATHIONE pills for many months and I can say that using l-glutathione pills is not funny at all.Well guess what,before I go on any further ,please never tell anyone that you using l-glutathione pills to get a fair light skin complexision.! My dermatologist is still making jokes out of it.He always breaks down laughing whenever he thinks of it.Taking l-glutathione pills to get light acomplexision? At first it did not seem funny ,it looked to be real , I tried it,gosh. What a blunder I did not know that one day I could opt to go for NUTRITION PILLS TO LIGHTEN UP MY SKIN COMPLEXISION! Can you believe that?
Well this is what happened.I made 10 orders of L-Glutathione pills from different people all over the world ,in hope of getting quick results from using a variety of pills but all from the same brand going under the same name __L_GLUTATHIONE PILLS.
Of all the 10 orders I made , I only received 2,can you believe that? Only received 2. Many websites advertising these pills are scams , SCAMS .
Many of these campanies usually go unnder a names of a famous dermatologists and claim to have their endorsement of their pills.Did I say that one of my sellers was a transsexual stripper down in Philippines? Can you believe that?Gosh have I ever been rippeed off by a homo male turned into female striper who claimed to know everything about l_glutathione?
I started using these pills in hope of getting or seeing a difference within a months time of taking the pills,One month nothing happened, Two months down the road I noticed an awkward change,Not a light complexision as expected but a pimple accne developing skin complexision.!
Third Month nothing happens ((but the acne is real coming up too fast)) at first I thought it was OK ((NB--I HAD ALREADY STARTED USING THE L-GLUTATHIONE PILLS BY THE FALL OF 2003))!
6 months down the trail things begin to get out of hand, I go and see my dermologist , at fisrt I did not tell him that I was using l-glutathione pills , big mistake.
One year down the trail, NOTHING HAD CHANGED NOT EVEN A FRAIL KIND OF DISCOLORATION , but I still kept of using these pills,during this period of time I was making fresh orders of the pills,1 year and a half down the trail, My acne got worse ,which lead me to go and see a doctor .The doctor did his usual checks and after a minute asked me if I was taking any drugs ,told him that I had been using the l-glutathione pills to lighten up my complexision, wow , he let out the loudest laughs I have everr had and left me puzzled!
Did I say that have noticed something like my skin taking on A DARKER shade.its hard to see but I have seen myself many timesinfront of the mirror (((my face real is not the best thing to look at anyway))) and noticed kind of a new dark shade!
And guess what ,
A research at Cornell universty suggests that higher than normal amounts of L-glutathione could promote type 2 diabetes.!
This was revealed by James Clung who received his PHD at cornell this spring .
Did you know that taking more than normal amounts of L-Glutathione pIlls can cause CANCER?!
Well a study in the June 6 2000 issue of the juornal science shows that racid fat molecules can react with L-gluatathione to form products that can harm DNA! It can also cause genotoxins(DNA -damaging agents) from lipid hydroperoxides,the implication being that l-glutathione may enchance mutagenesis and the risk of cancer.!
Hey everyone. I don't know how to begin... hmm... Scary stuff from Z. Makes me want to stop, on the real. Maybe he's been taking the kind of L-glutathione with goat placenta in it?? It's known to cause acne and weight gain... That's another reason I had to go with a real vitamin store to insure safety...
I've been taking L-glutathione for a little bit (Twinlab 250mg) and I've noticed a difference... very small difference (maybe because I've only been taking it for such a short time--going on three weeks.) I can say that my face does glow quite a bit... And it seems just a tiny bit brighter too... I'm not saying that I'm really light now or something like that, because I'm not. But I have seen a small difference in my face, glowing/brigter. Even Kazumi's site says there's no dangers in it, so if it doesn't lighten, then @ least I'll be getting vitamins lol :p . NO, I don't buy my pills from Kazumi. Personally I don't trust him'/her?? :confused: I've ordered off a regular vitamin store online--L-glutathione in low doses... Where it's safe, and I know I'll be getting it delevered to me stat (came in three days). It's just a low dosage (250mg), that's all. So I've been taking about 8 capsules a day (2000mg) Every six hours with a 1000mg of Vc and things. I'm thinking of changing my ingrediants to imput rosehips and the grapeseed extract too. I want to find a place that sells L-glutathione locally as a vitamin @ a real ligitamit store I can walk/drive to... I'm searching around.
I think I might stop with the L-glutathione process for a while because I've noticed when going to work that the sun has become quite bright/hot and with myself wearing long sleeves and jeans and hats to keep for tanning any darker, it's become quite a hasle... I'm always sweating , etc. I'm afraid I'll be waisting my money if I take the L-glutathine in such hot weather and not see results because of the hot sun and the summer weather. I think I might just wait until the fall when it cools to start L-glutathione again. I'd be easier to stay indoors all summer, but I've got a summer job and I'm away @ college too (I'm nineteen) and don't have the money to waist... I'll just have to cover up the whole summer... people are starting to become suspicous, but I can't let that stop me. If my mother found out I was using my money on this, she'd be very upset with me. My mother's a very proud woman, but I have my grandmother's permission (she's German). Anyway, I'm not sure if I'll actually hold off until fall or continue... I'll get back to you all later. Hope you are all well
Hi zagadi
"Nice" to hear again from you.
Well there is something rather strange with you!!
Well your first reply on this side is from the February 2005.
March 2005, you have no experience with skin lightening pills (l-glutathione)!
You even have written in march 2005... I WANT to buy them (l-glut.) but am still looking for a true testimonial from some one who has been using them for quite a while... and so!!
... no experience to this time at all!!
:p
Now not even 3 month later you say you have used l-glut. For a 1/2 year or more.
Are you even not able to calculate??
OR how is this possible.
Did you have a time machine?
You have got acne...
L-glutat. Should cause cancer...
I THINK YOU HAVE AN BIG BRAIN-DAMAGE!!
Othrwise I could not explain that! :D
I have asked an biolog-chemist and an internist about l-glutat.
In the badest case l-glut (in this high dosis) could harm your nerves!
And there are no studies of l-glutat (in this dosis)!
Zagadi is totally mentally confused and not serous at all!!
Well I`m using l-glut pills with vit C now since the 2nd of February 2005 and in the right/high dosis since the 12th of April.
NO acne...
Zagadi you mixed up something!
Smoking causes cancer...
... and a lot of people smoke although they know it`s very harmful!!
Before I used l-glut. if I had an injury on my skin I become a new dark skin on this place now I become white there!!
And this is all that I could notic until now!
A good change!
It`s rather not good that some guyz on this side curse about "kazumi".
Who has had own experience with him/her.
I think no one on this side!!
Zagadi I could not even believe at all that you ordered from 10 different companies l-glutat and get 2.
Are you stupied?
I ordered from 2 and get everything!!
Yellowgal85 did you even speak a little bit german?
Keep on using l-glut. Even over the summer with sun-cream.
Ciao lotti
Ps. Atlas you didn`t answer my question.
Hey guys,
I've been using HAWAIIAN TROPIC SUNBLOCK uva/uvb protection 70 spf and it's helped a lot. The color of my skin is rather the same. I'll add that I don't expose my body to the sun just my hands and face. I wear jeans and wear two black long sleeve shirts with a cardigan (a green or white cardigan sweater). :rolleyes: and yes, it's very hot indeed wearing pairs of clothing but it's worth it! The suns getting a lot stronger, Global Warming.
Before bed, I get half a cup of milk and splash it on my face for 20 min. It tones your skin and makes it smooth. Also, I dab some vitamin E&K oil.
Im also going to work graveyard shifts and try to stay out of the summer sun. :cool:
Wal-mart pays $15-$17 per hour for graveyard work.
Ciao
Hi guyz... :D
Did someone ever heard about "amira magic cream"
It seems to be rather interested!! :D
A cream & soap!
May it could help to speed up the lightenintg process. (together with l-glutat. And vit C.)
KAZUMI what is your expert opinion/knowledge? :)
- I could not find out much about the ingredients.
I should also work well in the summer (sun)!!
It should have No side-effects.
It should could be used always.
KAZUMI what is your expert opinion/knowledge??
This cream/soap is even well known in your country as I found out!
INFORM US!!
Ciao lotti
Hi guyz...
-SORRY-for wasting your time with this "magic amira cream". :o
It contains natural chamomile extract, milk extract, sun block, full spectrum UVA, UVB, HYDROQUINE, ASCORBIC ACID...
... a lot of stuff! :eek:
The sellers will not tell you that "AMIRA MAGIC CREAM" contains high level of mercury and is not intended for the face.
It was intended only for underarm!
The most dermatologist has banned that product since it contaoins harmful ingredients.
Never use products that has mercury!
Magic Cream are made in the KSA and amira magic cream in the Philippines!
DON`T BUY/ORDER THIS STUFF!! :p
Once again -sorry- :cool:
Hi spyder...
Well Gazwick is the same idiot as zagadai!! :D
I use l-glutathione from unitedshelter and ganda. Both seem to be real and to work for lightening!!
General my face appear to me lightener, I even have no spots now in my face and my dark eye circle are away.
NOT ENOUGH for me but once again I`m still using l-glutat. Pills together with vit C. in the right/correct way since 2 month.
#TOO short, we will see what the future (next 1-2 month) will bring but I know/think I`m on the right way.
Good luck & have a nice day!!
I have had the same problem in trying to lighten up my dark skin. Well I know of a way to but these L-Glutathione pills, however I only know that they sell them in my city, Fresno Ca... If you do live here you can go to the Tower Health and Diet store on N Wishon ave. again that is only for people who live in Fresno ca.
Hi..
Well hydroquinone causes cancer and didn` t help for a long-term lightening effect.
Atlas, well I never used the magic cream on my own, but hydroquinone is reason enough for me not to use it!
LHgirl44life... what is your complexion.
L-glut. Can take to 2years.
Cu
Atlas, I talked to my dermatologist about hydroquinone and he says its only safe for short term use. He said doctors only prescribe it because they make it clear that the patient should only use it for a few months to treat hyperpigmentation (areas that are darker than your natural skin color). The problem with using hydroquinone for general skin lightening is that you need to continue using it long term if you want to maintain the results. If you stop using it after a few months, your skin will return to its normal color quickly. My dermatologist does not recommend using even 2% for more than 3-4 months.
To each it's own. So, why prescribe it if your skin will return to it's normal color quickly once you stop, that's my question.
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Originally Posted by sharon1
I asked him the same question. He said its used to treat areas that are over active in producing melanin and can help bring it down back to normal skin color. It can't go and lighten you more than what your natural skin color will allow unless you keep using it for a long time. Doctors arnt supposed to prescribe it for general skin whitening. Its meant to treat dark spots and hyperpigmented areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlas
Spyder, he didn't mention anything about that. He just said there are reported risks involved with using hydroquinone for long periods. I didn't ask him in detail what they were.
Hi atlas...
Well I´`m not interested at all to quarrel with someone on this side!
I think this side is about "skin lightening pills" / experience with it and not about hydroquinone or other creams. :eek:
I didn`t have had good experience with hydroquinone!
I used it for about 9 years for a long term. At the beginning even I had "good" results with it, but after a time of 2-4 month the lightening power was over!!
This are my experience!!
And from now on I will not say anything about this subject.
I also think about leaving this forum.
Nothing news at all since the beginning only a lot of stuff!
I`m only interested in experience from persons which used l-glutathione longer than me!
And therefor I need the period/dosis of using and their skin typ.
Otherwise it isn`t helpful at all!
Now I look 12 years for a real whitening product and I nearly believe there is nothing!
Ciao LOTTI
Lotti, don't you think 9 years of using it seems excessive?
Products containing more than two per cent hydroquinone can cause irreversible hyperpigmentation. Spyyder, I've read it under VI B, it says: It is also NOT known whether hydroquinone can cause fetal harm when used topically on a pregnant woman or affect reproductive capacity. So it's not a known fact as far as human reproduction whine on hydroquinone is concerned. If it was me, I will refrain form using it if Im pregnant.
If you feel that pills are more effective and safe, that's your opinion, I'm not here to stop anyone from using anything that you deemed safe. And I'm not going to play GOD either. It must be known that these products (hair spray, shampoo, gel, moisturizer, lotion, toothpaste just to name a few) that we use in our eveyday life has drugs and have potential toxicity if used excessively. Thank you and Good Day!
:p
Then you can only use it for up to 3-4 months tops. It is not advisable to use this long term, since it can cause irreversible hyperpigmentation. Goodluck.
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Hey thanks for the forward. Well do you have some any suggestions about how to take L-glutathione with vitamin C and wich one will be correct or aprox. Amount daily? I'm taking this after searched all over online and studying a bit a about L-gluta and Vitaminc C. my actual weight is aprox. 175lb. Could you help me with this or anybody else that have been taking L-gluta. And like I said I'm still taking the pills together and so far so good but not yet real results... remember that this is my 3rd week. I hope results start to show around August or sept. so I ll keep update you guys.
Tkx you one more time and god bless you all.
Hi all... I read all your posts and yes, I ordered 'NOW glutathione' also. Will get it in 2 or 3 days. And tell what happens to my skin...
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