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  • Nov 15, 2009, 05:36 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dessaml View Post
    Take into consideration the amount of hyperpigmentation or scarring. If you have a few marks here and there then yes, 0.025% is the way to go, but if you're trying to correct a lot of damage then you'll need 0.1%.....Also if you're a vet at lightening, chemical peels, microderm and such then go for the higher stuff, but if you're a skin virgin maybe start lower. I bought 0.1% and didnt bother with the lower junk, but I was trying to undue YEARS of heavy hyperpigmentation damage.

    I ordered a 0.1% retin-a for my elbows, knees, and on the back of my arms that has a lot of hyperpigmentation and ingrown hair bumps, still waiting for it to come. 0.05% was strong enough for my face, wished I got a milder facial soap.

    Dessaml and Divaforlyfe what facial soap do you use while using retin-a, or any other peels?
  • Nov 15, 2009, 10:46 PM
    divaforlyfe

    You don't want to use any other acid based products, I have a glycolic acid wash that I use and it has really helped exf. My skin but I don't use it when I do a strong peel you want to wait a week I cheated and used a Salicylic acid wash but it was mild to help rid the ingrown hairs and acne , I had bad little bumps that are diminishing, I think it was from steroids or hydroquinon which I don't put on my face anymore, I would use gentle and non drying washes, but when you order there is a facial wash that should come with the peel,
  • Nov 16, 2009, 12:20 AM
    dessaml
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    I ordered a 0.1% retin-a for my elbows, knees, and on the back of my arms that has alot of hyperpigmentation and ingrown hair bumps, still waiting for it to come. 0.05% was strong enough for my face, wished I got a milder facial soap.

    Dessaml and Divaforlyfe what facial soap do you use while using retin-a, or anyother peels?

    I used a 70% lactic acid peel, and I use The Microdelivery exfoliator on my face... that stuff is AMAZING, I got it at Sephora... kinda pricey though
  • Nov 16, 2009, 05:42 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Whoah Dessaml 70% lactic acid peel! Did it burn? Did you use iton your face or body? Do you have completely clear skin now?
  • Nov 16, 2009, 05:47 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Afro13Queen have you made a decision of what to get? In my opinion, if you have sensitive skin (like me) or have minimal experience with peels I would suggest starting with less strength and work your way up from what your able to tolerate. As everyone's skin is different and some are able to handle more than others. For me, I doubt I will be going beyond 0.05% retin-a for a looong time, for my face that is. My body may be able to handle higher strength. My retin-a has helped my previous dark acne spots lighten up quite much on my face within 2 weeks. So, I'm guesing within the next 2 months I will see great improvement and closer to flawless skin and spot free finally.

    Other than that, are you still feeling melancholy and what have you done to help with this?
  • Nov 16, 2009, 06:56 PM
    afro13queen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    Afro13Queen have you made a decision of what to get? In my opinion, if you have sensitive skin (like me) or have minimal experience with peels I would suggest starting with less strength and work your way up from what your able to tolerate. As everyone's skin is different and some are able to handle more than others. For me, I doubt I will be going beyond 0.05% retin-a for a looong time, for my face that is. My body may be able to handle higher strength. My retin-a has helped my previous dark acne spots lighten up quite much on my face within 2 weeks. So, I'm guesing within the next 2 months I will see great improvement and closer to flawless skin and spot free finally.

    Other than that, are you still feeling melancholy and what have you done to help with this?

    FIRST OFF I Got to SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS COMMENTED SO FAR! I JuST GOT HOME AND CAME STRAIGHT TO THE COMPUTER!

    @Golden Girl

    I have sensitive skin. So Im thinking the 0.05% may be the way to go. I am very use dto using AHA though, because I used to use a soap with it a while ago when I was deep into the process. I also was prescribed tretinoin a while ago, before I knew that it could help with skin lightening... (Now don't I feel stupid). But Im not used to peels AT ALL, so you could be right, and I think 0.05% is the way.

    Im not feeling that sad anymore because Im actually seeing results with the Neutrogena stuff, if it wasn't for that Id prob be crying right now.. :( but My spots on my face are pretty minimal though now... They are on the outer parts of my face, so they CAN be covered with hair, but I just WANT clear skin no matter how the hair is worn, you know?

    Also, I have to ask what Vitamin C can do, because I stated earlier that I bought a Vitamin C serum and powder and I just wanted to know how I can incoporate that into my retin a reggie...
  • Nov 16, 2009, 07:03 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Glad to hear that your doing better.
    It'sANewDay is using a vitamin C serum, and maybe some others are too https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...rk-415681.html
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...-c-411848.html

    I haven't tried a serum yet, just taking liquid vit. C 1,000mg.
  • Nov 16, 2009, 07:08 PM
    afro13queen

    Oh Ok! Im reading those now...

    Can I use my Retin a AND my Neutrogena? Or will it be strong enough to use on its own? I have a soap that's from F&W and its an exfoliation soap. Can I use that with the Retin A?
  • Nov 16, 2009, 07:15 PM
    Itss A New Day
    Hi Afroqueen I just started using a Vitamin C serum and boy let me tell you I am loving my face these days; I also use retin a micro 0.1% so being that you are starting fresh with retin a maybe you should see how your skin tolerates it first then maybe use the vitamin C serum once a week to start and work up from there, because trust me with the retin a you will peel but with retin a and vitamin c omg I was peeling like crazy today, but my skin has become a bit tolerant to the retin a so that's why I added the vitamin c serum into my regime to boost my skin up a little bit. Trust me you will glow and you will love it. Good luck and keep us updated.




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by afro13queen View Post
    FIRST OFF I GOTTA SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS COMMENTED SO FAR! I JuST GOT HOME AND CAME STRAIGHT TO THE COMPUTER!

    @Golden Girl

    I have sensitive skin. So Im thinking the 0.05% may be the way to go. I am very use dto using AHA tho, becuz I used to use a soap with it a while ago when I was deep into the process. I also was prescribed tretinoin a while ago, before I knew that it could help with skin lightening.....(Now dont I feel stupid). But Im not used to peels AT ALL, so u could be right, and I think 0.05% is the way.

    Im not feeling that sad anymore due to the fact that Im actually seeing results with the Neutrogena stuff, if it wasnt for that Id prob be crying right now.. :( but My spots on my face are pretty minimal tho now...They are on the outer parts of my face, so they CAN be covered with hair, but I just WANT clear skin no matter how the hair is worn, ya kno?

    Also, I have to ask what Vitamin C can do, becuz I stated earlier that I bought a Vitamin C serum and powder and I just wanted to know how I can incoporate that into my retin a reggie...

  • Nov 16, 2009, 07:35 PM
    afro13queen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itss A New Day View Post
    Hi Afroqueen I just started using a Vitamin C serum and boy let me tell you I am loving my face these days; I also use retin a micro 0.1% so being that you are starting off fresh with retin a maybe you should see how your skin tolerates it first then maybe use the vitamin C serum once a week to start and work up from there, because trust me with the retin a you will peel but with retin a and vitamin c omg I was peeling like crazy today, but my skin has become a bit tolerant to the retin a so that's why I added the vitamin c serum into my regime to boost my skin up a little bit. Trust me you will glow and you will love it. Good luck and keep us updated.

    Oh SNAP! Im excited! Ok, so retin a first, let skin adapt to it, then try out the vitamin c... IM READY!! *does Cabbage patch* CLEAR SKIN! WHOOP! WHOOP! CLEAR SKIN! WHOOP! WHOOP!
  • Nov 16, 2009, 07:36 PM
    afro13queen

    Thanks Golden girl and It's a New Day for the advice and speedy relpies! :) :)
  • Nov 18, 2009, 09:01 PM
    afro13queen
    BUMP!
  • Nov 18, 2009, 09:03 PM
    Itss A New Day
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by afro13queen View Post
    Thanks Golden girl and Its a New Day for the advice and speedy relpies!! :) :)

    No problem we're all here to help each other :)
  • Nov 18, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Lol... yes I agree. Afro13queen have you started any of the serums yet?
  • Nov 22, 2009, 03:41 PM
    Lightenup2009
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sagluva View Post
    Yea i just heard about retin a myself when i came on this board. I ordered mine from alldaychemist.com. their products are very cheap like $2.00 for a tube of retin a and 4%hq. shipping is 25 dollars regardless of how much u order so its best to stock up. i use the exclusive fair and white whitenizer gel and serum. I realised that fiar and white lightened me alot but it did not get rid of my dark spots so i am using it with retin a which is lightening my dark spots coz of the peeling. I got my vitamin c toner and serum for a grocery store. The one i got is by organics. very good. If u mix the fair and white gel with some hq and retin a, and use a vitamin c toner and serum u'll get great results fast. atleast it works for me.. keep us updated on wut u decide to use.:)

    Hi do u add a HQ cream to the Fair and white gel and serum and the retin a gel to get fast lightening results? Please help .
  • Nov 22, 2009, 04:56 PM
    afro13queen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    lol...yes I agree. Afro13queen have you started any of the serums yet?

    The Retin a is in the mail on the way.. I haven't started the serums yet... Honestly, I don't know where I would fit it in into my acne steps... :( I eye it every time I use my Proactiv... or my neutrogena visibly even... Im SOOOOO confused on what to use first, or last (like in which steps to do it you know?):confused: :confused:

    This is the stuff in my bathroom Im eyeing:

    Fair and White Exclusive cream gel
    Fair and white exfoliating soap
    Proactiv EVERYTHING
    Neutrogena cleansr and moisturizer..
    The Vit C serums of COURSE...
    And my 55+H
    And when the retin a arrives, that too! (should be here in like a day now.. ) :eek:

    I really wish you or someone could tell me what to push to the side and what to add to a regimen for the best results.. because I honestly feel like some of this stuff is going to cancel the others out.. le sigh... :rolleyes:
  • Nov 22, 2009, 09:41 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by afro13queen View Post

    Fair and White Exclusive cream gel

    Neutrogena cleansr and moisturizer..
    the Vit C serums of COURSE....
    and my 55+H
    and when the retin a arrives, that too! (should be here in like a day now..) :eek:

    I really wish you or someone could tell me what to push to the side and what to add to a regimen for the best results..cuz I honestly feel like some of this stuff is going to cancel the others out.. le sigh.....:rolleyes:

    Yeah, I wouldn't use all at the same time on the same areas nor do you want to over-exfoliate and dry out your skin.

    This is what I would try:
    -Neutrogena cleanser (morning) ---does the moisturizer come separately?
    -f&w exclusive cream gel (morning/evening)
    -f&w exfoliating soap or the proactive (evening)
    -you can alternate the retin-a and vitamin c gel back and forth (evening)
    -55H+ I would use on another part of the body where your not using the f&w gel so you'll know which is lightening, I'm using mines on my neck

    You can always tweek it to what works best for you and if your skin begins to become irritated, try cutting back a bit.
  • Nov 23, 2009, 06:15 AM
    afro13queen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    Yeah, I wouldn't use all at the same time on the same areas nor do you want to over-exfoliate and dry out your skin.

    This is what I would try:
    -Neutrogena cleanser (morning) ---does the moisturizer come separately?
    -f&w exclusive cream gel (morning/evening)
    -f&w exfoliating soap or the proactive (evening)
    -you can alternate the retin-a and vitamin c gel back and forth (evening)
    -55H+ I would use on another part of the body where your not using the f&w gel so you'll know which is lightening, I'm using mines on my neck

    You can always tweek it to what works best for you and if your skin begins to become irritated, try cutting back a bit.

    Yup, the Neutrogena moisturizer comes separate.It has an spf of like 35, which isn't that high.

    I swear Im about to print these steps out u gave me and put it on my bathroom mirror.. :p
    Thank you so much GG.. I think this will work out just fine.. :)
  • Nov 23, 2009, 06:18 AM
    afro13queen

    @GG

    One more question! So when the retin a comes in the mail, because of the strength of it, should I apply it BEFORE I put anything else on my face? (like after the cleanser) Because it does make the face peel right?

    Ok that's it.. I PROMISE. :)
  • Nov 23, 2009, 12:08 PM
    Boricua1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by afro13queen View Post
    The Retin a is in the mail on the way..I havent started the serums yet...Honestly, I dont know where I would fit it in into my acne steps...:( I eye it everytime I use my Proactiv...or my neutrogena visibly even....Im SOOOOO confused on what to use first, or last (like in which steps to do it ya kno?):confused: :confused:

    This is the stuff in my bathroom Im eyeing:

    Fair and White Exclusive cream gel
    fair and white exfoliating soap
    proactiv EVERYTHING
    Neutrogena cleansr and moisturizer..
    the Vit C serums of COURSE....
    and my 55+H
    and when the retin a arrives, that too! (should be here in like a day now..) :eek:

    I really wish you or someone could tell me what to push to the side and what to add to a regimen for the best results..cuz I honestly feel like some of this stuff is going to cancel the others out.. le sigh.....:rolleyes:

    I would reallly just use the retin a for the acne... leave the proactive and the neutrogena, and even the exfoliating soap... just get a facial scrubbing spong... (one that's mildly abrasive to take off the peelings doing washing and use a good facial moisterizer and whatever lighteners for your face... for me the retin A had been clearing up everything lovely... but be careful... it's true it does get a bit worse before it gets better, with the peeling and pulling up the acne under the skin... but not for long.. so my acne cleared up significantly in ten days... and there's still a but of peeling oncertain days, but only at night time aprox when the 24 hor mark hits from when I applied it... or if I use it twice a day. By the 12 hr mark...
  • Nov 23, 2009, 04:36 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Best to apply the retin-a after you wash your face, then wait about 10-20 min before you apply anything else such as moisturizer, etc. There are several other ways on how you can change your regimen so its good to see what works best for you. Retin-a will speed up the lightening results due to exfoliation and the skin lighteners will be able to penetrated deeper. If your skin becomes too irritated, cut back on how many days a week you use it.
  • Nov 23, 2009, 07:52 PM
    Itss A New Day

    Hi Afroqueen I would suggest using the products you have in this order:

    Fair and White Exclusive cream gel- Morning and Night on face
    fair and white exfoliating soap- Daily on the body, once or twice a week on the face (so your face will not be irritated with the other products)
    proactiv EVERYTHING- Choose whether you want to use the proactiv cleanser or the Neutrogena cleanser. The Proactiv cleanser has salicylic acid right? You don't want to use so many harsh chemicals on your face all at once. Also disregard the other proactic products for now as you will be using good ole Retin A =-)
    Neutrogena cleanser and moisturizer- Use the moisturizer daily after applying the F&W gel, or use it as needed depending on your dryness/oiliness level.
    the Vit C serums- Use this once or twice a week to start, as you will be peeling and probably sensitive from the retin a. Use it preferably at night when your face will soak it up the most, so maybe do retin a during 1 week and do the Vitamin C serums during the following week and alternate.
    55+H; Use this on the neck and body morning and night, I would not use it on my face as of yet if you have oily skin; it can cause break outs. If you have dry skin I would use the F&W in the morning and the Crystalline at night, or vice versa.
    Retin A- see my previous advice; use it every other night to start, then let it soak in before applying the F&W or Crystalline. If sensitivity increases then use it maybe every 2 nights, per my doctor's advice.


    Hope this helps and good luck!
  • Nov 24, 2009, 09:35 AM
    DownCamel

    What were you using and how old are you? If you are young and have acne then get rid of it and then start skin whitening.
  • Nov 27, 2009, 10:54 AM
    afro13queen

    THANK YOU KINDLY It's a NEW DAY AND GG! Im copy and pasting this into Microsoft word as we speak! I hope this works! Would you believe my Retin A still isn't here yet? Ugh. I keep getting emails from alldaychemist with tracking numbers, but it still isn't here yet. Le sigh. Once again, thank u guys and I will continue to let u know how it goes...
  • Nov 27, 2009, 02:49 PM
    MAHARANI

    When did you place your order ? Mine took just over a week to arrive and I am based in the UK.
  • Nov 27, 2009, 08:41 PM
    Golden_Girl
    I'm still waiting for mine too, they have sent me the tracking number. They ship in good timing, but it is the customs that holds the packages longer so time varies. It better be here by Monday afternoon
  • Nov 28, 2009, 03:34 PM
    MAHARANI

    Funnily enough I didn't have any trouble with it going through customs. I had more trouble with Tonique.
  • Nov 28, 2009, 06:11 PM
    afro13queen
    @MAHARANI

    According to my mom I ordered last Wed. Im not really sure when I ordered but I feel like it should have been here by now.. Gosh...

    *twiddles thumbs*
  • Nov 29, 2009, 08:58 AM
    MAHARANI

    Where are you based afro13queen, then ?
  • Nov 29, 2009, 09:20 AM
    lighterrr

    Where you order the retina from afro
  • Nov 29, 2009, 10:29 AM
    MAHARANI

    Allday chemist.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 02:31 PM
    Sandy2010
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itss A New Day View Post
    Hi Afroqueen I would suggest using the products you have in this order:

    Fair and White Exclusive cream gel- Morning and Night on face
    fair and white exfoliating soap- Daily on the body, once or twice a week on the face (so your face will not be irritated with the other products)
    proactiv EVERYTHING- Choose whether you want to use the proactiv cleanser or the Neutrogena cleanser. The Proactiv cleanser has salicylic acid right? You dont want to use so many harsh chemicals on your face all at once. Also disregard the other proactic products for now as you will be using good ole Retin A =-)
    Neutrogena cleanser and moisturizer- Use the moisturizer daily after applying the F&W gel, or use it as needed depending on your dryness/oiliness level.
    the Vit C serums- Use this once or twice a week to start, as you will be peeling and probably sensitive from the retin a. Use it preferably at night when your face will soak it up the most, so maybe do retin a during 1 week and do the Vitamin C serums during the following week and alternate.
    55+H; Use this on the neck and body morning and night, I would not use it on my face as of yet if you have oily skin; it can cause break outs. If you have dry skin I would use the F&W in the morning and the Crystalline at night, or vice versa.
    Retin A- see my previous advice; use it every other night to start, then let it soak in before applying the F&W or Crystalline. If sensitivity increases then use it maybe every 2 nights, per my doctor's advice.


    Hope this helps and good luck!

    Hi New Day,

    Have you seen any results for body lightening from above products? Which web site did you order Fair & White from? I heard some are not selling genuine product! Between 55 and Fair, which one would you choose for body? I am east Indian :)
  • Nov 29, 2009, 03:12 PM
    lighterrr

    Have you tried using high hq creams
  • Dec 3, 2009, 06:39 PM
    afro13queen

    @lighterr

    No I haven't really used any high % hq... I did back in the day when I was first starting, but it was a store bought brand called Nadinola and it had 3%. Do you know where I could order the high percentage online?
  • Dec 3, 2009, 06:45 PM
    Itss A New Day
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sandy2010 View Post
    Hi New Day,

    Have you seen any results for body lightening from above products? Which web site did you order Fair & White from? I heard some are not selling genuine product! Between 55 and Fair, which one would you choose for body? I am east Indian :)

    Hi Sandy, I was actually responding to AfroQueen's request for application suggestions on products that she was using herself, but of all the above products that were mentioned, I only used the Vitamin C serum and the Retin A Micro 0.1%, as well as a premade combination of 4% HQ, 05% tretinoin. I saw brightening results from the Vitamin C serum, and much exfoliating. A reduction in acne and exfoliating effect from the Retin A Micro as well. I saw lightening from the 4%HQ combination with tretinoin, but this was on my face and neck, and it is not even lightening; some areas lighten sooner than others. I have yet to find an effective body lightener. I have not tried any Fair and White creams or serums, but I have tried the AHA exfoliating soap and it is really great for exfoliating, and I am considering the Fair and White Exclusive Gel lightener. The 55H+ Glycerin did not work for me as I saw no results, not even minimal. Hope this helps.
  • Dec 3, 2009, 06:57 PM
    afro13queen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itss A New Day View Post
    Hi Sandy, I was actually responding to AfroQueen's request for application suggestions on products that she was using herself, but of all the above products that were mentioned, I only used the Vitamin C serum and the Retin A Micro 0.1%, as well as a premade combination of 4% HQ, .05% tretinoin. I saw brightening results from the Vitamin C serum, and much exfoliating. A reduction in acne and exfoliating effect from the Retin A Micro as well. I saw lightening from the 4%HQ combination with tretinoin, but this was on my face and neck, and it is not even lightening; some areas lighten sooner than others. I have yet to find an effective body lightener. I have not tried any Fair and White creams or serums, but I have tried the AHA exfoliating soap and it is really great for exfoliating, and I am considering the Fair and White Exclusive Gel lightener. The 55H+ Glycerin did not work for me as I saw no results, not even minimal. Hope this helps.

    Hey it's a New Day! The Retin A is FINALLY here. I have to pick it up at the post office. Also, I wanted to know where you got your hydroquinone from, because I didn't see it on the list on alldaychemist,
  • Dec 3, 2009, 06:58 PM
    stacymica

    I haven't found a good body lightener either. Bioclaire worked well on my hands and arms. They went from gabrielle union to a little darker than rhianna ( I used bc). It messed my face in 3 weeks with not much lightening(1 shade). I got pimples I NEVER get pimples.
    But afro13queen tip: visibly even tried it before and it made my face uneven in complexion. As soon as I stopped in a month my face went back to my even skin tone. Also another thing sometimes using too many products at one time on your face will break you out. And if it does you won't know what caused what.

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