If you read number 11 I said I'm caramel right now. And I could go lighter but caramel is soooo prettY!! I still consider caramel to be light skinned. Lol considering the color I've come from. Sure men will find a brownskin girl pretty. But she has to be EXCEPTIONALLY pretty. It's unfair. And I don't know. People always think I'm mixed. Like not EVERYBODY. But more than FOUR times I was around black girls and I was talking about my hair. And I outted myself when I called it a weave. They would turn around and be like "what? I thought you were mixed" and I'd feel so stupid for letting my secret out. :/ I think it's because of my facial features. Do you have typical black girl facial features? Especially the nose? Because then the hair being yours is less believable. I may not have gotten the skin color of my mothers side of my family. But I got the arabic facial features.

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Although, I've never been lightskin, I've experienced some of the same things you have as a brownskin woman (men stopping and staring at me, thinking I'm beautiful) Once, I was in the parking lot and a whole group of men came running out to see me, and I was NOT lightskin. So this type of stuff is not just exclusive to lightskin women. There are a lot of men who find brown and carmel women very visually appealing

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EXACTLY!!
And if your brownskin and men find you attractive you don't have to be exceptionally pretty:rolleyes: give me a break!
Is it so hard to believe that some men like it brown?
I think I'll give men (black men) a little more credit than that!
Let's not forget beauty comes in all colors.

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EXACTLY!!!
And if your brownskin and men find you attractive you don't have to be exceptionally pretty:rolleyes: give me a break!!
Is it so hard to believe that some men like it brown?
I think I'll give men (black men) a little more credit than that!!
Let's not forget beauty comes in all colors.

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Let's not kid ourselves. An average looking light skin girl and an average looking brown skin girl standing next to each other. Who will get picked first? The light girl. Not because she looks better. But just because she's light.

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Let's not kid ourselves. An average looking light skin girl and an average looking brown skin girl standing next to each other. Who will get picked first? The light girl. Not because she looks better. But just because she's light.

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Ive been lurking in this thread for a while and I MUST speak... Im a pretty brown skinned girl.. Not sure who made the comment about not having super african american feautures but Im like that. I have a small nose and its perfectly porpotioned to my face and mouth. I don't have big lips. My mother has a pointy nose and her mother as well. Anyway Im in college now and I have a friend who is very light complected (probably about Alicia Keys complexion) and she is NOT pretty in my opinion. She has the biggest nose I have EVER seen and it is not proportioned to her face at all.. She has NO lips... short, thin hair.. and she's super skinny.no style.. Im not trying to diss my friend but it is what it is and these are facts. Im ab Gabrielle Unions complexion (especially in the winter) and I dress GREAT, My hair is long and thick, My body is like Alicia Keys, I have hips but not too much.. and dudes STAY checking for her... Ive seen situations like these all before but this is just ridiculous... shes just NOT cute. Her attitude is for the birds also. And when I read the above comment I had to speak! Don't get me wrong,guys try to talk to me also! But the guys that try to talk to her are GORGEOUS. Im talking 6,1 lightskinned/darkskinned/brownskinned, it doesn't matter, they ALL want her and Im beyond baffled at it at this point... Id take a FINE darkskinned guy over a UGLY lightskinned guy in a minute!

EXACTLY. I really don't know what it is about skin color that drives some of these men crazy. But I'm telling you. You could put Naomi Campbell next to some ugly light skinned girl from the streets. And they'd take that light skin girl. Lmao.

So so tru! And it makes NO sense! Have you ever seen TI's babymama Tiny? She looks JUST like miss piggy and TI was initially attracted to her because she is mixed... Jesus take the wheel..

True true and more true. Needless to say there are so many BEAUTIFUL, above average brown and dark skinned girls that some average light skinned girls couldn't even compete with as far as true beauty, but I have found that a lot of men simply think lighter is better. I had two light skinned friends, both the same shade of yellow, and I would be the only dark skinned girl in the group. They were so jealous of me (and they would tell me) because I had a bangin body (boobs, hips, butt, the works), but the guys ALMOST ALWAYS looked at them first, and they were average in my opinion. There are pretty light skinned girls and there are average light skinned girls, but to guys it simply doesn't matter it seems. And to give credit to my black men yes there are men who simply do not care if a girl is light or dark, but based on PERSONAL experience, and PERSONAL observation, men like light skinned girls a heck of a lot more it seems.

LMFAAAAAOOO. YES YES YES YES! Like can you really compare people like Tiny to women like Chili from TLC or Tatyan Ali from fresh prince? Oh my goodness. It drives me MAD. And honest to God. I have no problem with dark brown skin. I THINK IT'S GORGEOUS. Especially on women with exotic features. But these stupid men. Like light skin. And I don't know why I let them get in my head. So I've bleached my skin. And now they like me more? I LOOK THE SAME!! But with lighter skin. But now everywhere I go. It's "oh she bad" "she a dime" "she sexy yo" and I see guys tap there friends to turn around and look at the fine girl walking by. When I KNOW if I hadn't bleached my skin, I wouldn't get half as much attention. It just boggles my MIND. It honestly does. Sometimes I'll be with my friend who is in my opinion really pretty. She's equally pretty to me. Maybe some may say she's prettier. But who gets more attention. ALL the time? I do. Why? Because I'm lighter. And I think it's such bull. And I feel like I've had the chance to live life twice. Through two different lenses. I make sure that when I'm around women darker than me, that I DON'T act like I'm the ish . Just because my skin is lighter. It's all because of slavery and social standards and conditions. If black people were the slave masters and white people were the slaves. Everyone would want to look like us. I think I'm different from many people on this forum because I really don't find beauty in light skin. I just do it because the rest of society does. And I love getting the good treatment that people with lighter skin get. I gravitate more toward a warm golden shade. I think it's pretty. Not because it's lighter than a brown shade. But because it's glowy. But I also find beauty in darker shades. But the lighter the better it seems in this society!

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LMFAAAAAOOO. YES YES YES YES! Like can you really compare people like Tiny to women like Chilli from TLC or Tatyan Ali from fresh prince? Oh my goodness. It drives me MAD. And honest to God. I have no problem with dark brown skin. I THINK IT'S GORGEOUS. especially on women with exotic features. but these stupid men. like light skin. and I dunno why I let them get in my head. so I've bleached my skin. and now they like me more? I LOOK THE SAME!!!! but with lighter skin. But now everywhere I go. it's "oh she bad" "she a dime" "she sexy yo" and I see guys tap there friends to turn around and look at the fine girl walking by. when I KNOW if I hadn't bleached my skin, I wouldn't get half as much attention. It just boggles my MIND. It honestly does. Sometimes I'll be with my friend who is in my opinion really pretty. She's equally pretty to me. maybe some may say she's prettier. but who gets more attention. ALL the time? I do. Why? Because I'm lighter. And I think it's such bull. And I feel like I've had the chance to live life twice. Through two different lenses. I make sure that when I'm around women darker than me, that I DON'T act like I'm the . Just because my skin is lighter. It's all because of slavery and social standards and conditions. If black people were the slave masters and white people were the slaves. Everyone would want to look like us. I think I'm different from many people on this forum because I really don't find beauty in light skin. I just do it because the rest of society does. And I love getting the good treatment that people with lighter skin get.

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I was saying in another thread that some people mope all day about something that they're unhappy with, and some people actually do something about it. Whether it is essentially right or wrong, we live in a society where at the end of the day we put ourselves first and unfortunately we also live with mentally dwarfed people.

BrownDeceit me and you are one in the same! I swear when u speak, I feel like uve been swimming around in my head for thoughts! I think that dark skin is GORGEOUS, and I lobby for it whenever I hear someone diss it or say something derrogatory towards it. But Im bleaching for myself also. I do it, because of how much better I feel when I look into the mirror and see how certain colors pop against my skin. At one point I was a light brown, like almost caramel as yourself, but I started slacking on the skin after a family loss... But Im back now and ready to start back up.. Im now an even brown skinned tone, but Id like to get back to my light brown tone.. when I was light brown.. GIRL!! The attention! Girl, men left and right! This guy mixed with black and mexican was ON me... wanted to date me! He was gorg! But that's neither here nor there.. What Im tryna say is I get you girl... eye to eye!

YES YES YES YES. I go offffff on men that diss dark skinned women. Because even though I'm not dark anymore. In my head sometimes I still feel like a dark skinned woman. It's hard to explain. I don't know. It's like I still kind of carry that burden or insecurity around. So whenever someone says something negative about it. I quickly jump to the defense. And I always talk about how beautiful certain dark skinned celebrity women are. And yessss I remember once I had started slacking. Got home on holiday break and realize how much darker I had gotten. AH! But now girl. Ugh the attention. I love it love it love it love it love it. Just today I walked by the whole basketball team on my campus and they all were just eyeing me like I was God's gift to men. And yesssss. I love it because now we attract men of other races. It's CRAZY how many different races try to talk to me now. I just LOVE the attention. And it's POSITIVE attention. And I no longer feel like I have to show off my body to get attention. I can dress classy and elegant. And they like me. They look at my FACE. And they LOVE it. It feels SO GOOD.

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YES YES YES YES. I go offffff on men that diss dark skinned women. Because even though I'm not dark anymore. In my head sometimes I still feel like a dark skinned woman. It's hard to explain. I dunno. It's like I still kind of carry that burden or insecurity around. So whenever someone says something negative about it. I quickly jump to the defense. And I always talk about how beautiful certain dark skinned celebrity women are. And yessss I remember once I had started slacking. Got home on holiday break and realize how much darker I had gotten. AH! but now girl. Ugh the attention. I love it love it love it love it love it. Just today I walked by the whole basketball team on my campus and they all were just eyeing me like I was God's gift to men. And yesssss. I love it because now we attract men of other races. It's CRAZY how many different races try to talk to me now. I just LOVE the attention. and it's POSITIVE attention. And I no longer feel like I have to show off my body to get attention. I can dress classy and elegant. And they like me. They look at my FACE. and they LOVE it. It feels SO GOOD.

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HAHA I know how you feel, except I'm a guy. Yeah when I lighnted I got a lot of attention family, and people saying wow you look a lot cutier. And I also have hat Dark Skinned mindset to, when someone disses dark skns whoooooooooo I throw a fit. Even though they say you isn't even dark why do you care. Ahh it feels so good inside.

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HAHA I know how you feel, except I'm a guy. Yeah when I lighnted I got a lot of attention family, and people saying wow you look a lot cutier. And I also have hat Dark Skinned mindset to, when someone disses dark skns whoooooooooo I throw a fit. Even though they say you aint even dark why do you care. Ahh it feels so good inside.

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Klaas I didn't know you were a guy! I didn't know you or Fairr were guys! I don't know, it just didn't cross my mind. But, it's good to see some guys here, it makes it more diverse instead of just us ladies... lol

I understand where you guys are coming from exactly. When people go out of their way just to look at you and talk to you just because of the lighter complexion. The difference is very clear, and I prefer it far more than being overlooked. But, when some people try to diss others for having darker complexions I think it's sick and feel the need to stand up. Mainly because we know it isn't right and we have a broader outlook of society. I think the men who have this warped way of thinking "lighter is better" mentallity are the dumbest and shallowest and all I can do is have the last laugh.

Looks is always a mindset, one can discover that dark is wonderful if they get rid of that silly concept that they should be "light" and not learn that they could have been beautiful just the way they were.

Just as some people like a partner that is heavy, or older some prefer light and some prefer dark. So while friends and family ( often because they are nice) say good things because they see the change, to a unknowing public, you may have been just as good looking dark. At least in America, the TV and media have created a unreal idea of beauty that is mostly in the minds of those that don't fit a light size 4.

And all it really takes is learning we all have great features just the way we are

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I have to laugh at such , sorry, but pure bull. This is a concept sold by the media. There are so many guys out there that prefer the darker, and we are trying to change ourself, to make someone else happy?

Are you a woman? Are you a black woman? Are you even black? Have you physically been in our shoes? No you haven't. Because if you have, you wouldn't make such outrageous comments.

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Are you a woman? Are you a black woman? Are you even black? Have you physically been in our shoes? No you haven't. Because if you have, you wouldn't make such outrageous comments.

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I know I'm not very liked in this forum but I do have to agree with Chuck...

Now this comment is not going to be taken well and may even get deleted but surely saying that darker skinned people are not as pretty is being racist?

"Woah" I hear you say... she just called me WHAT?

But if you truly believe that someone who has darker skin is not as pretty or is not going to get treated as well then isn't that what defines that term?

I am not the skinniest girl in the world but my partner loves that... he cannot stand stick thin girls... now some guys like the skinny girls and do not like heavier ones... thos guys are SUPERFICIAL...

That goes for lighter girls as well... if you are not getting asked out by guys because you are not "light enough" then you are not finding very good guys...
A caring, decent man will like you for who you are, not the color of your skin. If you think you are not pretty then no-one else will think you are either.

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If you read number 11 I said I'm caramel right now. And I could go lighter but caramel is soooo prettY!!!!!! I still consider caramel to be light skinned. Lol considering the color I've come from. sure men will find a brownskin girl pretty. but she has to be EXCEPTIONALLY pretty. it's unfair. and I dunno. people always think I'm mixed. like not EVERYBODY. but more than FOUR times I was around black girls and I was talking about my hair. And I outted myself when I called it a weave. they would turn around and be like "what? I thought you were mixed" and I'd feel so stupid for letting my secret out. :/ I think it's because of my facial features. Do you have typical black girl facial features? Especially the nose? Because then the hair being yours is less believable. I may not have gotten the skin color of my mothers side of my family. But I got the arabic facial features.

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I don't have a pointy nose but I don't see what it has to do with my hair being less believeable especially since you can see it growing out of my scalp. Look at Rudy Huxtable from the Cosby Show. She was very dark with a lot of hair. I am very sensitive about my hair and get mad that people assume it's a weave all the time.

What are typical black girl features? I find what you say to be so offensive especially to me. And maybe I am exceptionally pretty. Once a man told me I was the most beautiful woman he ever saw. Take that and I'm brown

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I know I'm not very liked in this forum but I do have to agree with Chuck...

Now this comment is not going to be taken well and may even get deleted but surely saying that darker skinned people are not as pretty is being racist?

"Woah" I hear you say... she just called me WHAT?

But if you truly believe that someone who has darker skin is not as pretty or is not going to get treated as well then isn't that what defines that term?

I am not the skinniest girl in the world but my partner loves that... he cannot stand stick thin girls... now some guys like the skinny girls and do not like heavier ones... thos guys are SUPERFICIAL...

That goes for lighter girls as well... if you are not getting asked out by guys because you are not "light enough" then you are not finding very good guys...
A caring, decent man will like you for who you are, not the color of your skin. If you think you are not pretty then no-one else will think you are either.

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Why are people who aren't even black trying to weigh in on this topic. It's so annoying. Can you please read what we are saying? Do you even know who Chili, Tiny, and Tatyana Ali are? We are are saying that dark skinned women ARE pretty but do not get as much praise as light skinned women because they are DARK. I'm so irritated. You don't even know what we're talking about or our perspectives.

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Why are people who aren't even black trying to weigh in on this topic. It's so annoying. Can you please read what we are saying? Do you even know who Chilli, Tiny, and Tatyana Ali are? We are are saying that dark skinned women ARE pretty but do not get as much praise as light skinned women because they are DARK. I'm so irritated. You don't even know what we're talking about or our perspectives.

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I don't want this to turn nasty, I just want a general discussion... however you cannot dictate who answers questions.
Why does it matter if I have dark skin or not?
What if I said that I think darker people look more attractive, does that make me wrong? What, because I am white?

How do they not get as much praise please?
And no I have never heard of those people which make me think that they do not get as much praise as you are making out. I think you are relying too much on what the media think... and do you honestly think photos of those girls you admire are not covered with airbrushing?

Here is an example, OK so it's not the best quality but this literally took me about 30 seconds to do.

Brown Deceit,

I think it's regional. In some places, black men care about skin color more than others. Colorism is everywehre but its worse depending on where you live. For instance, I hear its pretty bad down south, and in places like LA.(are you from down south, I hear a lot of darkskin wo men complaining on YouTube about how hard it is in the southern regions) But if you go to New York, skin color doesn't matter that much (that's what some of the black women I've chatted with online said)


I do know that a brown or darkskin women can get noticed if they have a really really nice body like a big booty. Then skin color becomes a bit irrelavant. I am a dark brown woman who has a small waist and big booty, so when I get down about my color, I thank god that I can fall back on my nice frame.

DarkSkinGirl. You're so right I think it is more extreme in other reasons as opposed to others. When I was in the midwest it seemed like you couldn't get any attention unless you were white or mixed. But now that I am in New York I would say that sometimes it doesn't matter. But you still have some men that just refuse to be with a dark skinned woman! And honestly. I don't like being looked at for just my frame. I'd rather people look at my face and see that I'm beautiful. It makes me feel better than if they just like me because I have a big chest. (I'm just going to ignore these random people that have decided to pollute our board with their drama. I don't come on here to argue. They don't know our lives or our positions)

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DarkSkinGirl. You're so right I think it is more extreme in other reasons as opposed to others. When I was in the midwest it seemed like you couldn't get any attention unless you were white or mixed. but now that I am in new york I would say that sometimes it doesnt matter. but you still have some men that just refuse to be with a dark skinned woman! and honestly. I don't like being looked at for just my frame. I'd rather people look at my face and see that I'm beautiful. It makes me feel better than if they just like me because I have a big chest. (I'm just going to ignore these random people that have decided to pollute our board with their drama. I don't come on here to argue. they don't know our lives or our positions)

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Exactly, why settle for a guy who is so superficial that your skin has to be a certain color before he will think you are pretty?

And also, since when is this YOUR board?
I do not think anyone in the skin lightening forum created askmehelpdesk.

Do it to love yourself more.

Not for anyone to love you!

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I just LOVE the attention. and it's POSITIVE attention. And I no longer feel like I have to show off my body to get attention. I can dress classy and elegant. And they like me. They look at my FACE. and they LOVE it. It feels SO GOOD.

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I'm a women.
I'm a black women.
And I agree with everything he said!
There are guys out there who like brown women.
I think your just kidding yourself.
Why is that so hard for you to believe?

It seems like you have done this for attention and that's sad.
What's the matter? You couldn't dress classy and elegant when you were darker? You had to show off your body to get attention? Why:confused:

I have to 110% agree with BrownDeceit. She isn't saying that dark is not beautiful. It is very beautiful. But to not 100% understand is like telling a person who is mistreated to just deal with it. I understand completely where she is coming from. And if you are not a borwn or dark skin female, then it is impossible for you to understand as you have not walked in their shoes. Until you walk in their's and my shoes, then feel free to judgementally express your opinion.

Why can't causcasian people embrace themselves without sitting out in the sun and increase chances of getting skin cancer or by bronzers or other artificial ways to darken their skin. Which do you prefer?

This?http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI...9R-1082707.jpg
Or this?http://ferenc.biz/pictures/fiji-swim...rah-gerber.jpg


Yes, my point exactly. Of course the second, if not darker... except you still do not have to experience years of injustice as many of us who have. Not only black woman, but asian, indian, mexican, etc.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Golden_Girl;2030357]I have to 110% agree with BrownDeceit. She isn't saying that dark is not beautiful. It is very beautiful. But to not 100% understand is like telling a person who is mistreated to just deal with it. I understand completely where she is coming from. And if you are not a borwn or dark skin female, then it is impossible for you to understand as you have not walked in their shoes. Until you walk in their's and my shoes, then feel free to judgementally express your opinion.

Why can't causcasian people embrace themselves without sitting out in the sun and increase chances of getting skin cancer or by bronzers or other artificial ways to darken their skin. Which do you prefer?

This?http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI...9R-1082707.jpg
Or this?http://ferenc.biz/pictures/fiji-swim...rah-gerber.jpg


Yes, my point exactly. Of course the second, if not darker... except you still do not have to experience years of injustice as many of us who have. Not only black woman, but asian, indian, mexican, etc.

I agree with you BUT the difference is that white people tan and get darker not for other people to accept them, they do it for themselves, it seems that minorities bleach or lighten to be accepted. Remember that the western world or "white" as some would say are the ones who have created the standard that other races try to live by. So in a way it's more OK for them to do this they are not tanning to look Black or step out of their race, white people are very secure with who they are in general.

I'd rather be dark than be GINGER anyday!


(no offense to any gingers on here... but if you were ginger I don't know why you would be lightening your skin even more... the next step is albino)

Oh wow, lol! I love 'gingers'.. if I had to be a white person I'd be a vivid redhead with a few freckles.

It's an exciting color scheme for humans.. the birds and fish got the best bright colors, imo.

At the end of the day BrownDeceit and everyone else on this lightening board has their own motivation for lightening. If she lightens for social acceptance then that is her business and maybe one day she will not care what anyone thinks of her, but that is her motivation right now. Each of us has our own insecurities so let's not be so quick to prey on anyone's insecurities. My only advice BrownDeceit is that physical attraction is the 1st thing everyone sees no doubt, but make sure you find a man that doesn't love you solely because you are light, because remember that these lightening creams are only temporary fixes and our true color sometimes comes back and tells on us, and hopefully a man will not leave you because you got darker.

Your second picture did not work so there is nothing to compare to.

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yes, my point exactly. Of course the second, if not darker... except you still do not have to experience years of injustice as many of us who have. Not only black woman, but asian, indian, mexican, etc.

I agree with you BUT the difference is that white people tan and get darker not for other people to accept them, they do it for themselves, it seems that minorities bleach or lighten to be accepted. Remember that the western world or "white" as some would say are the ones who have created the standard that other races try to live by. So in a way it's more OK for them to do this they are not tanning to look Black or step out of their race, white people are very secure with who they are in general.

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And who says I have not experienced 'years of injustice' because I am pale?
It goes both ways, you also do not know my race, simply that I am "white"

People who use products to tan their skin are in my opinion fakes... they do it purely for aesthetic reason an honestly every person I have met who tans their skin is a complete bimbo.
I personally do not like skin cancer or looking orange.

I agree with your comments Itss a new day, I do hope she (or anyone) is not just looking for a man who noticed their skin color first and their personality second.

And yes lightening creams are only temporary, you are going to have to do it every single day your entire life if you want to be "happy"
Nothing is worth that much pain and frustration to look "good"

I think the first girl looks very pretty, but I also think the second one is pretty as well... that is just based on looks... if they are absolutely obsessed with their skin I wouldn't want to know them.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thum...curly-hair.jpg http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...lekWekELLE.jpg

Beauty is only skin deep, as the saying goes.

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Beauty is only skin deep, as the saying goes.

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I'm going to temporarily morph into superficial b*tch mode, okay? Is everybody ready?

GO!

Only ugly people say beauty is skin deep, or people who are already beautiful and want to piss the rest of us off Because they have no choice but to be happy with what they've been given. It's like saying don't wear makeup, why look "ok" when you can look great? I don't bleach my skin to make me happy, I do it for actual hyperpigmentation reasons... and if I get ligher in the process great, a warm caramel complexion is just fine by me. It's easy for you to say that about skin bleaching, you're ALREADY pale. same with Tyra Banks when she did her show... easy for her to say not to lighten, she already is light! I also got my breasts done, everybody who already had large boobs told me not to and everybody who was small breasted and couldn't afford a breast augmentation told me not to because they were forced to be happy with what they had and assumed I should be as well. True, you can be as light as you want and still be miserable and a bad person but I don't really think any of us have that problem on this board, and if there is then they need more help then a jar of hydroquinone can provide. I think laying in a tanning bed is silly and I would never do it... But that's because I have more than enough color, but I can understand why other people do it, society dictates that tans are desirable. Society is stupid too, but it's the world we live in, and in a perfect world we would all be happy with ourselves, but that's just a fantasy. And besides, it's cheaper for me to bleach my skin then it is for my to get a therapist and work through myself image issues and be 100000% happy with myself, I don't think there's enough money or therapy in this world for that, there will always be something I'm not too keen on, which doesnt mean I lead a life that is any less happy, whether its a my skin, my weight, whatever! by the way, I'm not attacking you in any way so don't feel as if I am, I promise I'm not, this statement is more general than directed at you per se.

*morphs back*

Okay, glad that superficial rant is over... moving on:D

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Wow, thanks, I never called you or anyone on this thread ugly...

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I rarely wear make-up... why should I smear crap all over my face for OTHER people... I don't give a crap what other people think about me.

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It's easy for you to say that about skin bleaching, you're ALREADY pale.

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Did you not read the comparison of lightening vs tanning?

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true, you can be as light as you want and still be miserable and a bad person but I don't really think any of us have that problem on this board,

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Actually, all I find on this board is b*tchiness, whinging, moaning and low self esteem... no to mention blatant racism towards anyone with white skin. (ie: being told to get off THEIR/YOUR board because of my skin color... if it was the other way around it would be world war 3)

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if there is then they need more help then a jar of hydroquinone can provide.

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Be careful! I have said pretty much the same thing before and got completely blasted and abused for it... double standards much?

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by the way, I'm not attacking you in any way so don't feel as if I am, I promise I'm not.

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I read this last so.. by the way, my post above is not attacking you either

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Originally Posted by shazamataz

Wow, thanks, I never called you or anyone on this thread ugly...


I rarely wear make-up... why should I smear crap all over my face for OTHER people... I don't give a crap what other people think about me.



Did you not read the comparison of lightening vs tanning?



Actually, all I find on this board is b*tchiness, whinging, moaning and low self esteem... no to mention blatant racism towards anyone with white skin. (ie: being told to get off THEIR/YOUR board because of my skin color... if it was the other way around it would be world war 3)



Be careful! I have said pretty much the exact same thing before and got completely blasted and abused for it... double standards much?



I read this last so.. by the way, my post above is not attacking you either

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Like I said... my post was more general than at you. But I stand by what I said, only ugly people say beauty is skin deep or people who are already beautiful and say it to piss everybody else off. I don't entirely disagree with what you said, my primary goal is to fix hyperpigmentation... not lighten my skin, and I have seen some things on this site that have made me raise my eyebrow... I won't repeat them lest someone decides to have a fit over it. I am not familiar with you, this is the first post I have seen from you on here... Why are you here exactly? Do you have rosacea or acne scars?? Etc? If you have been treated poorly it's not because you are white, it's because people are so very defensive (yes, I have gotten into it with a couple people on here who said crazy things) and when white people come to this forum its usually to give us a song and dance about how bleaching is bad, love yourself blah blah...

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Originally Posted by dessaml

Like I said... my post was more general than at you. But I stand by what I said, only ugly people say beauty is skin deep or people who are already beautiful and say it to piss everybody else off. I don't entirely disagree with what you said, my primary goal is to fix hyperpigmentation... not lighten my skin, and I have seen some things on this site that have made me raise my eyebrow... I won't repeat them lest someone decides to have a fit over it. I am not familiar with you, this is the first post I have seen from you on here... Why are you here exactly? Do you have rosacea or acne scars?? Etc?

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If I say I have acne scars will everyone get off my back about being in this forum?
That is not directed at you, many others have told me to basically "pi$$ off" because I voiced my opinion.

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his is the first post I have seen from you on here

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Actually I have over 3,000 posts, there is more to this forum than the skin lightening section, although most regulars wouldn't know it
:: intended to be humour ::

If someone came along and posted in the Dogs forum and they didn't own a dog I would not tell them they don't belong there, I would welcome their input and fresh insight into situations...
This board seems to have a tight knit group of people who band together and drive out any newcomers... newsflash, I am not going anywhere.

Yes I raise my eyebrows quite often, and when I do I let everyone know...
Why bother keeping my opinions to myself when they may in fact make someone realise that they should love themselves for who they are, not what society deems "right"

I am all up for a discussion, I like hearing others people opinions, it's just that certain people are so close minded they do not like hearing the opinions of others.

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and when white people come to this forum its usually to give us a song and dance about how bleaching is bad, love yourself blah blah...

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That is where I want there to be a discussion but I always get shot down and told it's none of my business, and the name calling starts.

If you are posting on this forum then people should be asking your intentions behind lightening, same goes for tanning as well.
The emotional factors need to be fully explored as well as the physical damage (YES there is physical damage, I can't count how many posts I have read where someone tried a product and ended up bumpy or burnt)

I don't have a problem with people who lighten for the right reasons, it's just no-one has yet to explain/tell me what their reason are and what makes them 'right'

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Originally Posted by shazamataz

If I say I have acne scars will everyone get off my back about being in this forum?
That is not directed at you, many others have told me to basically "pi$$ off" because I voiced my opinion.


Actually I have over 3,000 posts, there is more to this forum than the skin lightening section, although most regulars wouldn't know it
:: intended to be humour ::

If someone came along and posted in the Dogs forum and they didn't own a dog I would not tell them they don't belong there, I would welcome their input and fresh insight into situations...
This board seems to have a tight knit group of people who band together and drive out any newcomers... newsflash, I am not going anywhere.

Yes I raise my eyebrows quite often, and when I do I let everyone know...
Why bother keeping my opinions to myself when they may in fact make someone realise that they should love themselves for who they are, not what society deems "right"

I am all up for a discussion, I like hearing others people opinions, it's just that certain people are so close minded they do not like hearing the opinions of others.

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Okay so you have acne scars, welcome then... We will be more than happy to point you in the right direction on how to fix that:)

Now, as far as posting your opinion,. unless somebody asks for it... you're better off just keeping your mouth shut. If you don't then some people will feed you to the wolves for being "too judgemental" Been there, done that... People say crazy things, I just roll my eyes and get over it, not everybody here thinks the same.

The first few pages highlight people's experiences and personal reasons for lightening, in response to your question about why people do it. Its about personal happiness at the end of the day and lightening does not affect anyone else's safety or happiness except that of the person who decides to lighten, so ultimately it will be an endless debate, but no one is getting hurt except the person who is lightening themselves. You are welcome on any board to voice your opinion. Not everyone here is "racist" as you say towARDS white people. I don't even think anyone here is racist... right?

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Originally Posted by dessaml

Okay so you have acne scars, welcome then....We will be more than happy to point you in the right direction on how to fix that:)

Now, as far as posting your opinion, ....unless somebody asks for it...you're better off just keeping your mouth shut. If you don't then some people will feed you to the wolves for being "too judgemental" Been there, done that...People say crazy things, I just roll my eyes and get over it, not everybody here thinks the same.

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Oh yes I have been called 'judgemental' many many times, only every in this forum.

I'll leave it for now, and of coarse, I know that my above answers will either be ignored or picked apart and yet again, I will be called "judgemental"

At least you seem to have some sense dessaml.

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Originally Posted by Itss A New Day

its about personal happiness at the end of the day and lightening does not affect anyone else's safety or happiness except that of the person who decides to lighten, so ultimately it will be an endless debate, but no one is getting hurt except the person who is lightening themselves. You are welcome on any board to voice your opinion. Not everyone here is "racist" as you say towARDS white people. I dont even think anyone here is racist... right?

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You put that so well!! My respones always come out so y, my bad.:p

I'm not racist, if people on here are against white people... then I haven't noticed it:confused: