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  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:07 AM
    Golden_Boy
    Will Hydroquinone Work? What %
    Hi I use Fair and Flawless a few year ago and it burn my skin badly overnight so I took a long break from skin lightening.
    But I got the itch again to lighten. I feel so down when I'm next to someone whose skin looks so white and my skin is brown but I feel so dark around white or most spanish people.

    What hydroquinone product and strength will lighten me from dark indian complexion (Im a bit darker than Shah ruk) to mediterrane or midle east looking? Is hydroquinone best for my indian skin or is there something more suitable? And will whitening pills work, which? Please help me thanks.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:13 AM
    dessaml
    People have been having a lot of luck with 55H+ Chystalline...


    Do you happen to be related to Golden_Girl? Lol!
  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:16 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Okay thanks I will look into it for a thread here. Who is Golden_Girl?
    I tried sign up with GoldenBoy But it was taken.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:19 AM
    dessaml
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Okay thanks I will look into it for a thread here. Who is Golden_Girl?
    I tried sign up with GoldenBoy But it was taken.

    Lol we have a Golden_Girl on this forum so I just wondered if there was a connection. Welcome:)
  • Oct 4, 2009, 08:30 AM
    MAHARANI

    I thought the same! Golden_Boy, I am sure Golden_Girl will be saying her hello's soon!
  • Oct 4, 2009, 11:59 AM
    Golden_Boy

    LOL You guys are funny thanks for the laugh
  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:05 PM
    lilgreg1

    I'd say Hydroquinone isn't the best solution for darker complexed Indian skin. It only breaks down current melanin, and won't prevent "outbreaks", if you happen to expose yourself to UV-rays including sunlight. Not only that, but you'd require over 2% for an entire body's worth of lightening, which many consider toxic and carcinogenic.

    Only people who could really benefit from short-term use of Hydroquinone would be people who already have fair to very light skin, and happen to want to remove a tan or darker patches faster than usual.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:07 PM
    Golden_Boy

    Thanks, I was told same by someone else that back home in India, none of the whitening creams include Hydroquinone because it usually makes them darker. I wonder if Arbutin is better and what strength?
  • Oct 4, 2009, 12:12 PM
    lilgreg1

    Arbutin is a tyrosinase inhibitor, so it may provide slower effects, but is considered semi-permanent. The average dilute is generally between 2% and 5%; anything higher is useless and may provide a bit of irritation.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 01:08 PM
    Golden_Boy

    So I have to keep applying it for life? How many days can I go without applying Arbutin before my normal dark brown skin tone comes back?
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:26 PM
    lilgreg1

    Technically no; it's possible for your body's natural tyrosine process to slow down or lower it's output. For best results however, you ought to continue the application at least once every 2-3 days in order to maintain the inhibition process.

    A similar application for even monobenzone occurs, where the user has to use the solution in order to "maintain" an even tone or prevent any reactions from regular sun exposure.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:30 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lilgreg1 View Post
    Technically no; it's possible for your body's natural tyrosine process to slow down or lower it's output. For best results however, you ought to continue the application atleast once every 2-3 days in order to maintain the inhibition process.

    A similar application for even monobenzone occurs, where the user has to use the solution in order to "maintain" an even tone or prevent any reactions from regular sun exposure.

    Monobenzone?

    I have never heard of someone using monobenzone without developing disastrous results after 1-2 years. I searched "monobenzone" on here, and all the accounts that reported success with monobenzone preliminary, either reported sheer disaster (disability to "maintain" an even tone) or disappeared forever.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:35 PM
    BrownDeceit

    Lol. For a second I thought Golden_Girl changed her screename. I was soooo confused. Lol. Welcome to the board. I'd stay away from the harsh chemicals though. Just my opinion.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:36 PM
    lilgreg1

    Unless you're willing to take a risk with Monobenzone or understand exactly how to use it (or have medical supervision), it's best to stay away from it.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:41 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lilgreg1 View Post
    Unless you're willing to take a risk with Monobenzone or understand exactly how to use it (or have medical supervision), it's best to stay away from it.


    If I can get some solod testimony from someone, ANYONE who has used Mono (other than MJ's spirit, RIP) that has used Mono of any strength for 6+ months, a year, or 2, or longer, I'm game.

    Ideally I would like to use first Makari for a few months PLUS a few other key ingredients (especially a-Arbutin) to see how I can get light with that, but it seems like there's no choice to wait till approximately the 3rd week of October for it.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:46 PM
    lilgreg1

    Monobenzone actually affects different people, skin types, and shades differently. The amount of melanin separating your skin from complete and no shade whatsoever plays a very important role as well. Therefore one person's testimony or method of use will work in the same manner, nor bring the same results to the next person.

    That's the major reason as to why medical professionals recommend Monobenzone for vitiligo inflicted patients only. Your body's predisposition has been altered, is aiming at lighter skin, and therefore works hand-in-hand for the most part.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:49 PM
    Golden_Boy

    LOL Everything has a different effect on everyone.

    I am not looking for the details of the testimony, but for the whereabouts why so many success stories with monobenzone on this forum are limited to a couple months.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 03:53 PM
    lilgreg1

    I don't think anyone can really answer that. From my point of view however, I believe that most people who've reached their goal generally leave and don't bother to let anyone know how it turned out. We've had a few users use Monobenzone see decent results in the past and fail to utilize it's potential, yet post so afterwards.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Golden_Boy

    Oh great thanks yeah I did find two members that did come back to post their results.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...elp-52357.html

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...ne-304277.html
  • Oct 4, 2009, 07:15 PM
    BrownDeceit

    If I was you, I'd stay away from Monobenzone. It's totally NOT worth it in my opinion.
  • Oct 4, 2009, 07:23 PM
    so sexy

    It seems that way
  • Oct 4, 2009, 11:57 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrownDeceit View Post
    If I was you, I'd stay away from Monobenzone. It's totally NOT worth it in my opinion.

    Thanks the more I ask around the more horror stories no matter the percent. I was recommended locally, to use OTHINE or Nadinola 3% Hydroquinone Skin Lightener, because its readily available, until I get my Makari, who knows when that will be.

    Has anyone used or tried OTHINE or NADINOLA 3% Hydroquinone?
  • Oct 5, 2009, 12:33 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dessaml View Post
    people have been having a lot of luck with 55H+ Chystalline...


    Do you happen to be related to Golden_Girl? lol!

    Lmao... for a minute there I was thrown off a bit because I knew I didn't post earlier and I was like who is Golden_Boy :confused: No we are not related but I guess in here that would make us virtual twins or something.

    I have read positive results for Nadinola, I never heard of Othine.
  • Oct 5, 2009, 12:57 AM
    itsamor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Thanks the more I ask around the more horror stories no matter the percent. I was recommended locally, to use OTHINE or Nadinola 3% Hydroquinone Skin Lightener, because its readily available, until I get my Makari, who knows when that will be.

    Has anyone used or tried OTHINE or NADINOLA 3% Hydroquinone?

    NADINOLA 3% mixed with fred summits 2% has given me great results... cvs always have them! Nadinola it great cause its just like a lotion and has NO scent or sticky/greasyness. Try that out babe ;)
  • Oct 5, 2009, 01:15 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Thanks so much TWIN SISTAH & beautifully whitegirl, you're so inform,ative and such DOLLZz! :)
  • Oct 5, 2009, 01:19 AM
    itsamor

    Awwwwez<3
  • Oct 5, 2009, 01:39 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Lol... thanks.

    I didn't know Fair and Flawless could make the skin burn, which kind did you use? They are too expensive for me.
  • Oct 7, 2009, 09:31 PM
    Itss A New Day
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Thanks the more I ask around the more horror stories no matter the percent. I was recommended locally, to use OTHINE or Nadinola 3% Hydroquinone Skin Lightener, because its readily available, until I get my Makari, who knows when that will be.

    Has anyone used or tried OTHINE or NADINOLA 3% Hydroquinone?


    I used Othine for like a few days. I got antsy and impatient thinking it was not strong enough for what I was trying to do so I quit with half a container still left.
  • Oct 8, 2009, 01:04 AM
    EggoMini

    Nadinola (contains a bit of sunscreen but surely not enough) and Othine are super old brands from the same company I believe (same lab/company J. Strickland address on boxes).

    I remember using Othine on my knees in high school a million years ago. :p It does work but relatively slowly. It seems to be better with scrubs, AHA or glycolics (exfoliants) in your regimen as well.

    I've added dear old Othine 2 weeks ago (I do it every other night) to my regi of weekly gly peels and F&F Parfait daily.

    The synergy seems to be getting my face and neck closer and closer to my body color a bit faster(?). I don't think the Othine is hurting. It's also so cheap that I'm fine slathering it on my forearms too.

    I could be wrong but I think that HQ is more of a restoration thing?. like to use until you're back to normal (spots, shadows, blotches, freckles are faded)... to get rid of excess color?

    I don't know if HQ can safely change your base natural color & full-body ongoing? :confused:

    It does sound kind of toxic to use all over indefinitely but that's just my totally non-expert opinion.
  • Oct 8, 2009, 09:25 AM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EggoMini View Post
    Nadinola (contains a bit of sunscreen but surely not enough) and Othine are super old brands from the same company I believe (same lab/company J. Strickland address on boxes).

    I remember using Othine on my knees in high school a million years ago. :p It does work but relatively slowly. It seems to be better with scrubs, AHA or glycolics (exfoliants) in your regimen as well.

    I've added dear old Othine 2 weeks ago (I do it every other night) to my regi of weekly gly peels and F&F Parfait daily.

    The synergy seems to be getting my face and neck closer and closer to my body color a bit faster(?). I don't think the Othine is hurting. It's also so cheap that I'm fine slathering it on my forearms too.

    I could be wrong but i think that HQ is more of a restoration thing? ...like to use until you're back to normal (spots, shadows, blotches, freckles are faded)...to get rid of excess color?

    I don't know if HQ can safely change your base natural color & full-body ongoing? :confused:

    It does sound kinda toxic to use all over indefinitely but that's just my totally non-expert opinion.

    LOL :p

    Thanks I mixed my jar of othine with some turmeric and it seems to have turned doodie brown overnight! I threw it out and probably won't use Hq. I'm so against it because of past trial with it yrs ago. Probably move onto alpha-arbutin.

    Makari is taking forever to get here! :(
  • Oct 8, 2009, 07:05 PM
    lilgreg1
    - Accidental post due to connection errors.
  • Oct 8, 2009, 09:31 PM
    Golden_Boy

    Why does hq cream oxidize so quickly. Nasty! Yack!
  • Oct 8, 2009, 11:41 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Boy View Post
    Why does hq cream oxidize so quickly. Nasty! Yack!

    Because it is an unstable chemical in cosmetic products. Even when mixing it into a formulation, it is risky because it can oxidize quickly due to the air and light. That's why it is also best to use Hq that's in a non-transparent tube, pump, or other container that will prevent and lessen the risk of oxidation and not use them if they are in a jar or a transparent container, as it will become ineffective quite quickly.
  • Oct 8, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Golden_Boy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    Because it is an unstable chemical in cosmetic products. Even when mixing it into a formulation, it is risky because it can oxidize quickly due to the air and light. Thats why it is also best to use Hq that's in a non-transparent tube, pump, or other container that will prevent and lessen the risk of oxidation and not use them if they are in a jar or a transparent container, as it will become ineffective quite quickly.


    Oh thanks whiz sis! :p

    I don't know I just have such a natural aversion to HQ and bad experience with it, I feel like it can even oxidize under the skin or something

    Iremember being given a script of hq compounded by derm and he made me keep it in the fridge

    It turned brown anywayz in the fridge, what a costly waste

    I'm going to stick with non-HQ

    I like creams that can store for even a couple yearz in translucent bottle without risk of oxidation :cool:
  • Oct 9, 2009, 12:37 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Hq in the fridge? He probably said that in hopes to keep it fresh longer, but in the fridge once you open it the bright light comes on and cold air is always blowing on it. I would prefer to put it in a cabinet, but if it's in a jar the chance only increases of it oxidizing. Each time the lid is removed anyway. I don't know how my skin would react with hq? I only knowingly used it on my acne spots for a few weeks a few years back, and it had made my skin much clearer by the 3rd week. I was surprised. But, I never used it to lighten (excluding bio claire in which they had lied with their 0.06%, I hope they get sued).
  • Oct 9, 2009, 12:44 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Oh thanks. Yeah it waz in black glass bottle with "airless" screwon pump but still it oxidized. Hq is crazy like that unless its processed in factory with magnesium stearate I guess.

    Someone on another forum told me HQ works best when mixed with tretinoin of course, plus NAC powder. And that NAC will slow down the oxidation too better than vit C. I will try that if I ever get some more HQ cream. Doubt it.

    Re- Bio Claire That's stupid they tried to slip a little Hq in there,s that's not going to do anything but turn the cream brown and spoil any good ingredients there.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 01:05 AM
    Golden_Girl
    Yeah, using tretinoin along with hq will prevent skin thinning and damage. But it's good to use with any skin product.
    Skin whitening - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:11 AM
    Golden_Boy

    Will using Tretinoin too long thin out the skin or is that just corticoids?

    I read somewheres that tret stimulates collages, so doesn't thin it out - as u say.

    I would like to use Tret continuously at a dilute strength (diluted into other natural creams like arbutin, turmeric, etc)
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:43 PM
    Golden_Girl
    Tretinoin (vitamin A) will not thin the skin, it will do the opposite and yes stimulate collagen and keep the skin healthy, and prevent thinning. Use as prescribed, I persnally would use it maybe everyother evening at 0.05&#37;. Some people use it at a lesser concentration 0.025% and some mix it in their skincare creams and use it on a daily basis. After I get use to the 0.05% after a few months, then I'll up it at 0.1% which is that I know of the strongest. So, I think it's best to start off smal and add from there as 0.1% is quite strong.

    Corticosteroids will definitely thin the skin and shouldn't be used as a lightener.

    I have heard of tumeric being used on the skin, is it because it may give the skin a nice golden color since it's yellow? I eat with tumeric a lot and know it is a good antioxidant, but would like to sooner or later try it in a lotion too.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:59 PM
    Itss A New Day

    I use 0.1&#37; retin a micro and retin a is really a Godsent product. I use it every night with no problems. My skin peels every few days and reveal new fresher glowing skin. HQ mixed with tretinoin is better than HQ by itself, from personal experience.

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