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    Apr 28, 2007, 08:46 AM
    A level integration
    right OK, the mass M at time t of the leaves of a certain plant varies according to the differential equation

    dM/dt=M-M^2

    a given that at time t=0, M=0.5 find an expression for M in terms of t

    here is my wrong answer
    (intregral) 1/M*dM=(integral) 1-M*dt

    lnM=t-Mt

    M=e^t * e^-mt

    (the right answer is M=(e^t)/1+e^t)

    how does it get to this?
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    Apr 28, 2007, 10:37 AM
    Since you gave this an earnest effort, I will show you how they got that.



    Separate variables:



    Integrate:







    is a constant we'll call C:



    Solve for

    Using the IC M=1/2 when t=0:



    Solving for C, we find C=-1

    So, we have:



    Does this help? Follow that?
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    Apr 29, 2007, 07:10 AM
    ln(m-1)=t+c I don't understand how you obtained the left hand side

    or
    M=(ce^t)/(ce^t)-1 part from the stage before it

    the rest I understand thanks
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    Apr 29, 2007, 07:34 AM
    I just integrated and solved for M.



    Now, integrating, we get

    Which, by the properties of logs, equals:



    Then, I just did the e thing and solved for M. Just algebra.
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    Apr 29, 2007, 07:55 AM
    right so you split it up to get logs OK, could you explaine the

    M=(ce^t)/(ce^t)-1 part and how to get to it from the stage before it please

    (also I'm running into barriers with my other question ill post my working on that page if you could tell me where I've gone wrong please)
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    Apr 29, 2007, 08:25 AM
    It's just algebra, albear.



    But







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    Apr 29, 2007, 08:55 AM
    Ahh OK thanks
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    Apr 29, 2007, 09:02 AM
    You're welcome. I hope you learned a few littles things. Practice your algebra. It is the crux of all further math study.

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