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Oct 25, 2023, 04:45 AM
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You would think that it's just a matter of time before we have fatalities or lose some aircraft.
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Oct 25, 2023, 05:39 AM
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A really ignorant comment considering that Gaza has not been occupied by the Israelis since 93 and the Oslo Accords.
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Oct 26, 2023, 04:28 AM
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The Gaza strip was a two-state solution in miniature. Mr. Biden, how did that work out?
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Oct 26, 2023, 05:12 AM
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Since 1967 we've heard that peace will come when there is are 2 states . Then they can live in peace. This is an invented trope that was never part of any settlement between nations or the UN . It is sorta like the elusive search for the Holy Grail. It was never part of any UN Resolution . Between 1948 and 1967 the Arab nations controlled all the land in question in Judea and Samaria Gaza was Egyptian . You see how anxious they are to get it back . They won't open the gate into Sinai to allow Palestians to enter (another case where a wall works )
No Palestinian state was created . Why . Because in truth they don't give a rat's a$$ about the people of Palestine and they don't want the problem of Palestinians in their land
Black September - Wikipedia
It can't happen when one of those state's primary doctrine is the eradication of the other state and the extermination of it's people .
When there is a Palestinian state it will only mean that more and more sophisticated weapons will legally be exported to the Palestinians. `
Which would suit Iran just fine. In fact the whole conflict needs to be looked at in that context. 1967 Iraq joined the Arab nations that attacked Israel. They entered into the conflict through Jordan. Today Iraq is controlled by Iran courtesy of the emperor's desire to make Iran a regional hegemon. Iran funnels weapons to the Palestinas . Iran provides more sophisticated weapons to Hezbollah which controls the STATE of Lebanon . Iran proxies attack Israel through Syrian ,Lebanon ,and the Palestinian territories . Weapons to a Palestinian state would no longer need to be smuggled. The Palestinian State and Iran could have a recognized defense treaty .
There is a REAL Resolution 242 recognizes Israel's rights to defensible borders . How could that happen if the charter of a Palestinian State calls for the extermination of Israel ?
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Oct 26, 2023, 05:19 AM
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They are fighting over land that no one wanted until the Jews came in, put their backs and minds to work, and developed the area into what it presently is. As long as the Arabs controlled it, it was a wilderness.
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Oct 26, 2023, 06:15 AM
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and in Gaza they are turning the fertile lands that Israel cultivated in South Gaza back to desert .
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Oct 26, 2023, 01:39 PM
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All of this is interesting. Will it still be interesting when it hits our front door?
I think we'd better run for cover now before it's too late.
It's a distraction.
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Oct 26, 2023, 03:27 PM
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nah pages of debate about infant baptism on this board is a distraction This is "Current Events ".
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Oct 26, 2023, 06:24 PM
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It's a distraction.
This is "Current Events
Not in his (our) Kingdom.
What you're dealing with, here, is old News...We know how this story ends.
(I was surprised to find out American troops have landed in Isreal...actual Boots on the Ground)
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Oct 26, 2023, 08:33 PM
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Tom, just as you predicted.
US warplanes carried out airstrikes on Iranian proxy forces moments ago inside Syria: USF-16s and F-15s were used to strike targets in Syria earlier tonight in retaliation for the attacks on US troops in the region.
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Oct 27, 2023, 04:42 AM
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The Communist revolution in Russia was preceded by the universities becoming indoctrination camps for radical ideas. The same thing seems to be happening here.
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Oct 27, 2023, 05:09 AM
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Walt I have seen no reports of US troops on the ground although it would not surprise me. If there is a hostage rescue attempted I and sure US troops will be involved . Also it is not uncommon for US troops to be on the ground when American equipment is introduced into a conflict .I have no doubt that Americans are in Ukraine supporting the Patriot battery (if it hasn't already been taken out by the Russians ) .
Also American special forces are covertly deployed all over the world's hot spots.
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Oct 27, 2023, 09:29 AM
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A friend showed me, by Vidio (while in Israel) American troops exiting aircraft. Apparently, there were three planeloads of American ground forces. He's still in Israel. He used to be a journalist. He is now doing interviews with other news agencies.
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Oct 31, 2023, 04:50 AM
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Clueless Joe has pivoted from unconditional support for Israel to the plight of the Palestinian in Gaza. He is listening to his left flank again.
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Oct 31, 2023, 04:57 AM
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This is about an accurate and succinct a description of the ME problem as I have seen in a while.
The Middle East conflict is framed as one of the most complex problems in the world. But, in reality, it's very simple. Israelis want to live in peace and are willing to accept a neighboring Palestinian state. And most Palestinians do not want Israel to exist.
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Oct 31, 2023, 06:35 PM
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