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    Oct 1, 2022, 08:35 AM
    thorough and honest discussion any books and other materials on controversial topics.
    great let me know when you finish John Grisham 'State of Fear' .
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    Oct 1, 2022, 08:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    great let me know when you finish John Grisham 'State of Fear' .
    I have. Remember, it's fiction. Start the discussion!
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    Oct 1, 2022, 10:40 AM
    I did start it on another posting probably best to discuss it there

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    To read a good, referenced rebuttal to almost all the arguments in favor of that hypothesis; I recommend a fiction book that is well referenced and documented.

    The book is Michael Crichton's thriller 'State of Fear'. Every assumption made by the climate change cult is countered in this fiction that is an easy read about ecoterrorism done in the name of saving the planet.
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    Oct 3, 2022, 05:13 PM
    Gotta love these pro-police democrat mayors.

    Austin mayor slammed by police advocates for falling asleep during fallen officer's funeral. 'I want to express my deepest apologies to the family of Officer Martin,' Austin Mayor Steve Adler said.
    https://twitter.com/realJustinBerry/...fficer-funeral
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    Oct 3, 2022, 07:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    To read a good, referenced rebuttal to almost all the arguments in favor of that hypothesis; I recommend a fiction book that is well referenced and documented.

    The book is Michael Crichton's thriller 'State of Fear'. Every assumption made by the climate change cult is countered in this fiction that is an easy read about ecoterrorism done in the name of saving the planet.
    This book was written almost 20 years ago – and, unlike Crichton's usual well-plotted novels, this is an obvious piece of propaganda that didn't stand up then, and is grossly out of date today.

    A critical review of the book follows:

    Flawed or misleading presentations of global warming science exist in the book, including those on Arctic sea ice thinning, correction of land-based temperature measurements for the urban heat island effect, and satellite vs. ground-based measurements of Earth's warming.

    Michael Crichton was, by all accounts, an extraordinary individual, a wonderful science fiction writer, and the creator of Jurassic Park and the television series ER. But he missed the mark on climate change.
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    Oct 4, 2022, 02:37 AM
    The book is timeless despite the hit piece reviews it got from the established environmental movement cult . It was well sourced with multiple references .

    It was also a fast moving thriller that was hard to put down as the protagonists raced against time to stop a series of eco-terror events .
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    Oct 13, 2022, 07:19 AM
    The President's mental challenges have become sad. He now imagines that one of his sons, who actually died of brain cancer, instead died in combat. This from a recent speech,.

    "I say this as a father of a man and won the Bronze Star, the conspicuous service medal, and lost his life in Iraq."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...olorado-speech
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    Oct 13, 2022, 08:27 AM
    He besmirches the memory of his son constantly by using his service and death as a political prop. It is disgusting . The sad thing is that Beau refused to participate in the Biden crime family .


    The day the Bidens took over Paradigm Global Advisors was a memorable one.
    In the late summer of 2006 Joe Biden’s son Hunter and Joe’s younger brother, James, purchased the firm. On their first day on the job, they showed up with Joe’s other son, Beau, and two large men and ordered the hedge fund’s chief of compliance to fire its president, according to a Paradigm executive who was present.
    After the firing, the two large men escorted the fund’s president out of the firm’s midtown Manhattan office, and James Biden laid out his vision for the fund’s future. “Don’t worry about investors,” he said, according to the executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing fear of retaliation. “We’ve got people all around the world who want to invest in Joe Biden.”

    At the time, the senator was just months away from both assuming the chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and launching his second presidential bid. According to the executive, James Biden made it clear he viewed the fund as a way to take money from rich foreigners who could not legally give money to his older brother or his campaign account. “We’ve got investors lined up in a line of 747s filled with cash ready to invest in this company,” the executive remembers James Biden saying.

    At this, the executive recalled, Beau Biden, who was then running for attorney general of Delaware, turned bright red. He told his uncle, “This can never leave this room, and if you ever say it again, I will have nothing to do with this.”

    The Biden family’s strange business history – POLITICO
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    #49

    Oct 13, 2022, 08:29 AM
    Beau lost his life because of his service in Iraq.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 08:53 AM
    Beau lost his life because of his service in Iraq.
    Huh? How was his brain cancer related to his service in Iraq?

    At any rate, he did not lose his life in Iraq. It was a flatly untrue statement.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 09:28 AM
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    Huh? How was his brain cancer related to his service in Iraq?
    Because of his exposure to burn pits in Iraq, Beau very likely came home to the US with what was eventually diagnosed as stage four glioblastoma. He died about 18 months later.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 09:35 AM
    That sounds like speculation. Can you verify that?

    Still, he did not lose his life in Iraq.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That sounds like speculation. Can you verify that?
    Or you can google it.
    Still, he did not lose his life in Iraq.
    He lost his life BECAUSE OF HIS SERVICE IN IRAQ!!! And...We'll be watching and listening to you talk when you're a month short of your 80th birthday.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 09:49 AM
    We'll be watching and listening to you talk when you're a month short of your 80th birthday.
    Thank you for agreeing with our point. Mental acumen naturally deteriorates with age, and thus Biden is making clumsy mistakes.

    As to googling, since you seem not to know how, I did your work for you. The result shows the silliness of your claim.

    We were unable to find any support for Biden’s claim that “more people are coming home from Iraq with brain cancer than ever before, than any other war.” His campaign did not reply to our request asking for a source for his statement.
    The little data that exists does not suggest that Iraq veterans have developed brain cancer at higher rates than those who served in earlier wars.
    According to a 2015 Veterans Affairs post-deployment surveillance report, which the agency said was the only “current published data on this topic,” brain cancer prevalence was 0.04% for Vietnam veterans and 0.03% for both Gulf War veterans and those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan post-9/11. The report documents the prevalence and incidence of brain cancer, among other health conditions, for users of VA health care between April 2014 and March 2015. The Iraq War started on March 20, 2003; the conflict in Afghanistan began on Oct. 7, 2001.
    Biden Exaggerates Science on Burn Pits and Brain Cancer - FactCheck.org

    Even Joe Biden himself disagrees with you.

    Biden had said in a 2019 speech, "[Because] of exposure to burn pits, in my view — I can’t prove it yet — he came back with stage four glioblastoma. Eighteen months he lived, knowing he was going to die."
    It's just as well that you seem unable to do internet searches. They rarely support your claims.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 09:52 AM
    During America’s post-September 11 wars, huge open-air burn pits were used to dispose of the mountains of trash on US military bases.

    Everything from food packaging to human waste to military equipment, chemicals, paints, petrol, plastics and tyres were dumped into the huge pits and set alight with jet fuel.

    Many of the pits covered acres of land and burned all year round without going out, all within close proximity to where US troops were sleeping, eating and working.

    One of the biggest pits spanned 10 acres, burning around the clock at Balad Air Base, just north of Baghdad.

    It’s a waste disposal practice that was banned on US soil back in the 1970s because of the health risks from the release of toxic fumes but which, five decades later, is still practiced by the US army on deployment to foreign countries, leaving American servicemen and women exposed to these toxins every single day.
    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-bu...141102209.html

    Breathe deeply, JL, breathe deeply!
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    Oct 13, 2022, 10:03 AM
    In your article there is not a hint that burn pits caused brain cancer. Not even a whisper, and Pres. Biden already has admitted there is no proof of it. So your own article does not support your idea.

    This paragraph was instructive. "Three conditions – asthma, rhinitis and sinusitis – were first listed in August as presumptively linked to toxic exposure." Note that brain cancer was not mentioned, and the three conditions listed are all breathing or nasal problems, but are not cancers.

    So while you might THINK that it is true, you have no support for your idea at all. Oh well.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 10:34 AM
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    In your article there is not a hint that burn pits caused brain cancer. Not even a whisper, and Pres. Biden already has admitted there is no proof of it. So your own article does not support your idea.
    Try this one.
    https://www.cancer.org/healthy/cance...burn-pits.html

    Even better! Go to an overseas military location. For two years, breathe in the smoke from burn pits. Then let's talk.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 10:42 AM
    I tried it. Thank you for finding another link that does not mention brain cancer and thus does not support your contention.

    Note this. "There is extensive evidence in other situations that PM in air pollution is linked to heart disease, asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), lung cancer, and an overall increased risk of death." Hmmm. No mention of brain cancer. Oh well.

    Since you have found no evidence that burn pits contributed to brain cancer, is there even any evidence that Biden, an attorney with the JAG Corps, ever served near a burn pit?

    Maybe he did serve near a burn pit, and maybe it did cause his brain cancer. I'm open to that possibility, but you have provided zero evidence to support that idea, and it remains completely true that he did not die in Iraq.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 11:08 AM
    His exact words
    "Just imagine — and I mean this sincerely, I say this as a father of a man who won the Bronze Star, the Conspicuous Service Medal,and lost his life in Iraq....

    Beau did NOT lose his life in Iraq. He may believe Beau's service in Iraq and Kosovo contributed to the illness he later died from . That does not change the fact that he misspoke ;as he does so often.

    Can anyone else document any other member of his 261st Signal Brigade unit that came down with GBM ? I doubt it. I would believe it more if the cause was respiratory like COPD.
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    Oct 13, 2022, 11:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    His exact words
    "Just imagine — and I mean this sincerely, I say this as a father of a man who won the Bronze Star, the Conspicuous Service Medal,and lost his life in Iraq....
    Actually, he did. His health -- and thus his life -- ended in Iraq.

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