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    Jan 9, 2022, 06:45 AM
    A group of Dem policy advisors led by Zeke Emanuel (brother of 'never let a crisis go to waste' Rham and one of the main architects of Obamacare ) have written an essay entitled 'A National Strategy for the 'New Normal ' life with Covid ' .

    In their view ,the 'new normal ' is the permanent health crisis nanny state.

    “The goal for the ‘new normal’ with COVID-19 does not include eradication or elimination, eg, the ‘zero COVID’ strategy.”

    Eradication is a plan that Clueless has abandoned for all intent and purpose although he is still stuck on disproved rhetoric like 'pandemic of the unvaccinated ' and the 'vaccinated don't spread the disease'.

    What is new is that they want to double down on emergency policies by expanding the list of respiratory illnesses covered .
    The “new normal” requires recognizing that SARS-CoV-2 is but one of several circulating respiratory viruses that include influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and more. COVID-19 must now be considered among the risks posed by all respiratory viral illnesses combined. Many of the measures to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (eg, ventilation) will also reduce transmission of other respiratory viruses. Thus, policy makers should retire previous public health categorizations, including deaths from pneumonia and influenza or pneumonia, influenza, and COVID-19, and focus on a new category: the aggregate risk of all respiratory virus infections.
    A National Strategy for the “New Normal” of Life With COVID | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network

    BRILLIANT !

    Get the sniffles ;LOCK THEM DOWN !

    Now you ask any Dem about photo id's for the purpose of the integrity of the vote and their hair goes afire. But these guys have no issue with requiring national vaccination passports .

    In addition, to facilitate verification of vaccination status and to better track postvaccination infections, there needs to be an electronic vaccine certificate platform. Relying on forgeable paper cards is unacceptable in the 21st century. Current state immunization information systems are incomplete, fragmented, and not interoperable, hindering national efforts to control the virus. A national electronic vaccine certificate platform is needed, such as the SMART Health Card, that ensures interoperability across states and countries, safeguards individual privacy, and is based on open-source technology publicly available for vetting to help satisfy any concerns over government surveillance. While controversial, this is not unprecedented. State and national databases are in use for other information, including for driver’s licenses, Social Security, voter registration, and specific health purposes, such as organ donation.

    In the 'new normal ' America they would have mandatory vax for attending school and have us carry around our electronic passport for the ability to attend public events ;eat at restaurants ,go to movies ,sporting events etc ,and travel on public transportation.
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    #42

    Jan 9, 2022, 07:05 AM
    The sound we hear in the distance is a red wave coming in November. We better hope it is. Otherwise, it is hard to imagine how much longer this semi-fantasy existence we have created can go on.
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    Jan 9, 2022, 07:07 AM
    Speaking of the vax;oral arguments were made to SCOTUS over the Clueless OSHA vax mandate. Notable was in questioning ,lib justices Sotomayer and Breyer treated unvaxed workers as sub human garbage.

    JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: So what’s the difference between this and telling employers, where sparks are flying in the workplace, your workers have to be — wear a mask?
    MR. KELLER: When sparks are flying in the workplace, that’s presumably because there’s a machine that’s unique to that workplace. That is the —
    JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Why is the human being not like a machine if it’s spewing a virus, blood-borne viruses? Are you questioning Congress’s power or desire that OSHA do this? It already in 1991 told OSHA to issue regulations with respect to Hep C and B.

    well for one thing ,covid is not blood borne . Hep C and B are covered in the OSHA statutes ;not off the cuff executive action by an imperial dictate.

    Justice Breyer, argued that it should be acceptable for OSHA to adopt regulations that drive workers out of the workplace because, some people might quit rather than work with unvaccinated others.

    Imagine the irony of a lib saying it is ok to discriminate against' others ' because workers would quit rather than working with them.Substitute the word Blacks with unvaccinated and see the protests .

    What we know now is that vaccination does not protect others from either getting covid or spreading it . Follow the science dude! Your logic is flawed and outdated .
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    Jan 13, 2022, 05:56 PM
    SCOTUS stayed implementation of the Clueless Joe power grab covid mandate

    Why does the major questions doctrine matter? It ensures that the national government’s power to make the laws that govern us remains where Article I of the Constitution says it belongs—with the people’s elected representatives. If administrative agencies seek to regulate the daily lives and liberties of millions of Americans, the doctrine says, they must at least be able to trace that power to a clear grant of authority from Congress.
    Majority opinion 'NATIONAL FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT BUSINESS v. OSHA' Gorsuch writing for the majority .

    Doctrines cited by the majority serve to prevent “government by bureaucracy supplanting government by the people. "

    On the one hand, OSHA claims the power to issue a nationwide mandate on a major question but cannot trace its authority to do so to any clear congressional mandate. On the other hand, if the statutory subsection the agency cites really did endow OSHA with the power it asserts, that law would likely constitute an unconstitutional delegation of legislative authority. Under OSHA’s reading,the law would afford it almost unlimited discretion—and certainly impose no “specific restrictions” that “meaningfully constrain” the agency


    21A244 National Federation of Independent Business v. OSHA (01/13/2022) (supremecourt.gov)

    And that is by far the biggest problem with the progressive administrative nanny state . Congress hands over power to unelected bureaucrats that don't have accountability to the elected representatives or indeed any accountability to the people .
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    Jan 13, 2022, 07:02 PM
    Barring an act of congress then corporations and companies can mandate their own work rules. Surprisingly I can live with that as it just blows the covers off those companies that have implemented a shots or testing requirement. Wonder what they'll do now.
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    Jan 14, 2022, 04:38 AM
    They will probably tread carefully . The company I worked for implemented covid policies long before any were mandated . This is a stay and not a final ruling although the way I read the decision ,it may as well be so.
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    Jan 14, 2022, 05:10 AM
    The court upheld the mandate that health care workers must be vaccinated to work at medical facilities receiving Medicare and Medicaid funding.
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    Jan 14, 2022, 05:42 AM
    Got a new name for the President's testing roll out ......... Operation Snail Speed .
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    Jan 14, 2022, 06:05 AM
    It's hard to imagine how the pres could do much worse than he's doing, It's amazing to think that he's only been in office for a year. Feels much, much longer than that.
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    Jan 14, 2022, 06:43 AM
    Won't be long before insurance companies start charging the unvaxxed for those hospital visits. Pray for that herd immunity.

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