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    #161

    Jan 23, 2021, 07:25 AM
    The message is pretty clear. Left wing rioting will be largely ignored by the powers that be.
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    #162

    Jan 23, 2021, 07:53 AM
    Someday you will master walking and chewing bubble gum, and see the forest and not just the trees.
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    #163

    Jan 23, 2021, 08:45 PM
    From Athos:

    It's a figure of speech. I'm surprised someone who claims your credentials doesn't know that.

    The forest is the big picture. The trees are the details. The big picture is the basic message of the Bible. The trees are the details that, taken as a whole, make up the message. When the trees (details alone without context) prevent you from seeing the forest (the Bible as a whole) you are missing the basic message.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Thank you, captain obvious
    Yes, obvious after you had it explained to you. Another self-inflicted shot to your foot. (Do you need that explained?)
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    #164

    Jan 23, 2021, 09:07 PM
    Yes, obvious after you had it explained to you.
    I suppose, amazingly, that you really think I considered the "forest" to be literal trees. I can only say you are free to believe whatever strange ideas you want to believe, but any fair reading of my responses shows that to be ridiculous.

    As a reminder, "I'll ask once again. If aionios means, as you have said, something less than eternal when it describes hell, then it would also mean less than eternal when applied to heaven. Correct?"

    Ready to reply yet?
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    #165

    Jan 23, 2021, 09:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I suppose, amazingly, that you really think I considered the "forest" to be literal trees.
    You totally missed the point! I'm in shock!
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    #166

    Jan 23, 2021, 09:24 PM
    You totally missed the point! I'm in shock!
    Feel free to explain your response. I suspect you simply cannot see it, but I'm willing to listen.
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    #167

    Jan 23, 2021, 09:31 PM
    This is the statement of Athos I was responding to. "The forest is the big picture. The trees are the details. The big picture is the basic message of the Bible. The trees are the details that, taken as a whole, make up the message. When the trees (details alone without context) prevent you from seeing the forest (the Bible as a whole) you are missing the basic message."

    Rather plainly, I think everyone here understands the relationship of the metaphorical "forest" to the "trees" so any attempt to explain it is just silliness. The one thing missing is Athos describing what he considers the "forest" to be. In other words, the basic message of the Bible. You, WG, have done that by saying it is love. However, you committed what seems to you to be a great sin of using a proof text. Still, I thought it was a good one and said so. But Athos has hesitated to do that, so it is the missing element. All the rest of this is just window dressing.
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    #168

    Jan 24, 2021, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    do bear in mind that you were not invited.
    Who invited you? People in glass houses .................................
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    #169

    Jan 24, 2021, 01:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Feel free to explain your response. I suspect you simply cannot see it, but I'm willing to listen.
    Always the nasty crack, the putdown....
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    #170

    Jan 24, 2021, 03:30 PM
    Always the non answer.
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    #171

    Jan 24, 2021, 03:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Always the non answer.
    Be nice, even Christ-like, showing unconditional love, and I'll answer.
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    #172

    Jan 24, 2021, 06:10 PM
    Be nice, even Christ-like, showing unconditional love, and I'll answer.
    Oh please, please, be ever so kind and answer.

    How was that? I don't know that I can do much better. 8D
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    #173

    Jan 24, 2021, 06:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Oh please, please, be ever so kind and answer.

    How was that? I don't know that I can do much better. 8D
    I detect a sneer.
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    #174

    Jan 25, 2021, 01:04 AM
    As this thread has problems with common decency and being civil, I'm closing it.
    Any repetition will result in similar action
    Scream censorship all you want, just remember where you are.

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