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    #21

    May 31, 2020, 05:04 AM
    you have it wrong The issue was moving patients from expensive hospital care to much cheaper nursing home care . It was il duce who made the economic calculation .
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    May 31, 2020, 05:27 AM
    Let me guess, no nursing home turned him down.
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    May 31, 2020, 11:15 AM
    he said he would take away their license . The March 25 order that forced infected patients on them allowed for no exceptions ....the exact words from his directive “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to ­admission or readmission.”

    Some nursing homes before March 25 had no reported cases or deaths . After March 25 every nursing home in the NYC area had both patients and staff sick and dead .

    Cobble Hill Health Center had lost 55 patients to C-19 . The director begged NY Dept Health for relief . He wanted to transfer C-19 patients to the under utilized Javits Center or to the almost empty USN Comfort . His requests were rejected .
    To rub salt into it ; Cuomo barred visitors from nursing homes . So as the patients were dying ,they could not even say good by to loved ones; family did not get to see the conditions their senior relatives were in. He allowed infected C-19 patients into nursing homes but not healthy relatives of the sick and dying .
    Trust me ;if I could find harsher words for that facia bruta I would a more despicable human has never walked the earth .
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    May 31, 2020, 03:21 PM
    I doubt if Cuomo was the only governor to use that strategy, nor is the threat of losing a license an excuse to do the absolute wrong thing. I am aware your feelings for your governor is almost as biased as mine is for the dufus.
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    May 31, 2020, 04:42 PM
    The last stat I heard had Connecticut having 60% of it's c-19 deaths in nursing homes and 60% of c-19 deaths in Massachusetts were in nursing homes . I have not done a state by state comparison. I know what il Duce decreed . I don't even fault him for that .I fault him with being confronted with the facts and still delaying reversing his decision for weeks while the deaths piled up .Then he tried all types of blame shifting ....alternately blaming the nursing homes ,his lie about him following CDC guidelines ,and even trying to blame the NY Post because they ran some reports on Cuomo's callous attitude about his failure .
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    May 31, 2020, 04:50 PM
    Politicians can be rather touchy to criticism can't they? I've been following best I can through local news feeds and to be honest, I question not just some of the numbers, but the way they get and report those numbers...if indeed they do. Imagine a state NOT keeping track or worse not reporting them accurately.

    That's not good.
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    May 31, 2020, 05:50 PM
    can't imagine that. can you? what with funding considerations and all, not to mention the political implications
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    Jun 1, 2020, 05:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    can't imagine that. can you? what with funding considerations and all, not to mention the political implications
    That why I do my own homework Clete.
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    #29

    Jun 1, 2020, 05:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    a more despicable human has never walked the earth .
    Have you checked out the White House recently?
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    Jun 1, 2020, 07:15 PM
    Oh come now where are trumps concentration camps?
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    #31

    Jun 2, 2020, 09:16 AM
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    Oh come now where are trumps concentration camps?
    He's referring to the Governor of NY, not Trump, as the most despicable character to walk the face of the earth.
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    Jun 2, 2020, 09:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Oh come now where are trumps concentration camps?
    They've been along the southern border and various other US cities with brown people for some time, but now he is looking to expand to the larger cities with protesters, black, white, peaceful, violent...they are all the same to him.

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