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    #161

    Jun 2, 2020, 01:47 PM
    A pox on the houses of the loony fringes. Left and right!
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    #162

    Jun 3, 2020, 12:36 PM
    An interesting development.

    read://https_www.nytimes.com/?url=ht...4969268de5c8c3

    This is the interesting part for me though.

    “The F.D.A., in my view, bowed to the pressure and issued what’s called an ‘emergency use authorization’ for the drug,” said Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Committee on Finance, which sponsored the hearing. “Doing so threw open the door to tens of millions of pills, including some, directly related to this hearing, manufactured inside facilities in Pakistan and India that have either failed F.D.A.’s inspection or never been inspected by the F.D.A. at all.”
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    Jun 3, 2020, 01:42 PM
    if they failed they should be stopped at customs. There is nothing in the law that allows for adulterated drugs to be approved . I deal with customs delays by the FDA at ports of entry all the time . Product is not released if not approved ;emergency use authorization or otherwise .I wait weeks for deliveries based on FDA holds .
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    #164

    Jun 3, 2020, 05:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    This Antifa group is just the latest manifestation in a long line of leftist agitator groups going back at least to SDS or Weather Underground that led riots in the 60s ;and 2 of them Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were mentors to the community agitator ,the emperor
    When you have no defense, attack the other guy. The issue is today, not 60 years ago.

    It is a clever deception and false flag to say that White extremists are doing the attacks. Nothing on Twitter can be taken at face value . They have already demonstrated their political biases .
    The white extremists are INSTIGATING the attacks via social media - an established method. Your dislike of Twitter does not invalidate the truth.
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    #165

    Jun 4, 2020, 05:16 AM
    Not surprising that some would dismiss the radical rights efforts, after dismissing the Russians actions of 2016. No surprise at all.
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    #166

    Jun 4, 2020, 05:31 AM
    The white extremists are INSTIGATING the attacks via social media
    I doubt that. It's just an effort to excuse the actions of the ones on the streets making the decisions and doing the damage. I don't think the rioters look at each other and say, "Hey, the boss man on Twitter said to go loot and burn Walmart, so here we go."
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    #167

    Jun 4, 2020, 05:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't think the rioters look at each other and say, "Hey, the boss man on Twitter said to go loot and burn Walmart, so here we go."
    Thanks for providing how YOU would instigate via social media. Your method is preposterous. The reality is light years more subtle than that.

    Talk about zooming over one's head! WOW!
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    #168

    Jun 4, 2020, 05:58 AM
    Doesn't take much to motivate a criminal to do illegal stuff. Just the opportunity.
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    #169

    Jun 4, 2020, 07:10 AM
    Doesn't take much to motivate a criminal to do illegal stuff. Just the opportunity.
    Exactly correct.

    Your method is preposterous. The reality is light years more subtle than that.
    Perhaps one day you can explain how it works.
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    #170

    Jun 4, 2020, 07:49 AM
    don't buy it . NYC is reporting that weapons like bricks and molotov cocktails are being pre-staged . There is too high a degree of coordination for this to be a bunch of Twitter screamers
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    #171

    Jun 4, 2020, 07:52 AM
    And to suggest that white supremacists are doing the coordinating just seems unreasonable to me.
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    #172

    Jun 4, 2020, 07:57 AM
    I've seen White Supremacists rallies . The participation numbers in the dozens or less . Every one thinks that they have the influence that they had in the 1930s
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    #173

    Jun 4, 2020, 07:58 AM
    I've seen the same thing. How many do I know, or even personally know of? Zero.
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    Jun 4, 2020, 08:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I've seen White Supremacists rallies . The participation numbers in the dozens or less . Every one thinks that they have the influence that they had in the 1930s
    They came from all over to converge in Charlottesville. Organized on line. Never underestimate the enemy or what they are capable of.
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    #175

    Jun 4, 2020, 08:20 AM
    Here's your big crowd. There must have been...twenty of them!! And they came from all over?

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    #176

    Jun 4, 2020, 10:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Here's your big crowd. There must have been...twenty of them!! And they came from all over?


    Ah, your scrapbook. Where are you in the picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Perhaps one day you can explain how it works.
    The subtlety of things zooms far above you. Sorry, not a chance you would understand.
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    #177

    Jun 4, 2020, 10:31 AM
    zooms far above you.
    As people say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Why don't you come up with your own descriptors instead of having to copy mine?
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    #178

    Jun 4, 2020, 10:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    As people say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Why don't you come up with your own descriptors instead of having to copy mine?
    You've already said that. It's getting stale. Don't you have anything new?
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    #179

    Jun 4, 2020, 10:37 AM
    Because you keep doing it. Have you no imagination of your own?
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    Jun 4, 2020, 10:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Because you keep doing it. Have you no imagination of your own?
    No much of an answer, is it? Lame.

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