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    Mar 20, 2020, 07:14 AM
    is Wuhan virus a way to end gun violence ?
    Baltimore Mayor Jack Young wants residents to stop shooting each other because they need the hospital beds for Wuhan Flu patients .

    we cannot clog up our hospitals and their beds with people that are being shot senselessly because were going to need those beds for people infected with the coronavirus. And it could be your mother, your grandmother or one of your relatives. So take that into consideration.


    https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/...afvSoAcOXXu_Fw
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    Mar 20, 2020, 07:25 AM
    These type of arse wipes will make any excuse to take LAW ABIDING CITIZENS firearms away from them: Typical Bolshevik B.S.....guy needs to go read the Constitution or renounce his citizenship and go to Red China.
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    Mar 20, 2020, 08:57 AM
    Maybe I missed it vac but where in the article says anything about taking away your lawful guns? Sounds like the 2nd amendment types are paranoid.

    @ Tom, criminals rarely take time off and maybe we should expect an uptick in crime when the economy goes south.
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    Mar 20, 2020, 04:23 PM
    Crime is of opportunity to execute a criminal act.

    Take away food from my family and I may become criminal.....and, certainly criminals will come as they smell blood in the water.

    However, I reserve the right to defend my family and what is mine from anyone.....If you take law abiding citizens weapons, then law abiding citizens will becomes victims of criminal elements....Law Enforcement will not be able to prevent mass attacks on innocents in these time....the innocents must be able to protect themselves.
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    Mar 20, 2020, 04:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Baltimore Mayor Jack Young wants residents to stop shooting each other because they need the hospital beds for Wuhan Flu patients .

    “we cannot clog up our hospitals and their beds with people that are being shot senselessly because we’re going to need those beds for people infected with the coronavirus. And it could be your mother, your grandmother or one of your relatives. So take that into consideration.”


    https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/...afvSoAcOXXu_Fw

    so it is alright at other times for the residents to shoot each other and fill hospital beds but not now. How many residents are shot a day to fill those hospital beds. Perhaps there is a toilet paper crisis there fueling violence or is it a gun crisis. Just maybe there are places in the world where guns should be confiscated
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    Mar 20, 2020, 09:21 PM
    Just the normal stuff of the criminal ilk awakening after the winter slumber Clete.
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    Mar 20, 2020, 09:52 PM
    do they slumber over there tal, hibernate for the winter perhaps coming out after groundhog day?
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    Mar 21, 2020, 04:33 AM
    Not really, but warm weather tends to drive people outside especially at night. LOL, it only takes one incident though to get attention and scare the heck out of people. Just a reminder that though the news is about other stuff, the same stuff is still there. Local gangs no matter the race, which is more or less a product of who is where, have existed in cities since forever. It's no different here than in any other parts of the world bereft of economic opportunities.

    Guns and the people with them with bad intentions haven't gone anywhere just off the frontpage. Current events have just added to the problems that were there already. Eventually they will have to be tested too!
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    Mar 21, 2020, 05:27 AM
    so you could hope CV will take out a few criminals
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    Mar 21, 2020, 06:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    so you could hope CV will take out a few criminals
    No doubt it will but so what? There are no shortages of criminals or criminal activity streams to replace sick criminals unlike sick nurses/doctors who are extremely hard to replace.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 06:27 AM
    We will not stand for mass shootings and an increase in crime.
    I thought that was an interesting quote. It would seem that they have been completely OK to "stand for mass shootings" and crime increases, but now they are not. It would have been nice to have not stood for such things for the simple reason that they are illegal and mayors are supposed to fight crime. Well, at least he is starting to sound less and less like a liberal dem.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 08:06 AM
    Well he had to say something about the event amid all the other crap he is dealing with. Why are you politicizing it? Like he didn't care about the illegal activity before.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 08:34 AM
    He had to say something? Is that what this is about, a person having to say something? Maybe it should be about a mayor undertaking his responsibilities and doing what is in the best interests of the people of Baltimore, and doing that all of the time and not just for a few months.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 11:58 AM
    Don't get your draws in a bunch dude over one instance, and one statement. It's been going on for decades. They always issue a statement, until the next instance. You just happen to jump on a piece of it since the entire theme was about the coronavirus.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 12:03 PM
    Oh. Well that makes it alright. I'm sure that if Trump had said it, your point of view would be quite different.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 06:15 PM
    I never said the mayor was WRONG for what he said.
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    Mar 21, 2020, 06:53 PM
    I didn't say he was wrong. I do think it would be a lot better if he had said that on the first day of his mayorship.
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    Mar 22, 2020, 02:43 AM
    What makes you think he didn't? Do you know something I don't? Care to share?
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    Mar 22, 2020, 04:58 AM
    I think if he had been saying it from day one, then there would be no need to make a big deal of saying it now. I don't think even you believe he has said it all along. And if he had been saying it and truly doing it, then the crime rate in Baltimore would not be sky high.
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    Mar 22, 2020, 07:15 AM
    I don't assume what he says on a regular basis I don't know, and have only a small snapshot of one event. That's as far as I go with that. As for a crime rate, many things play into that circumstance in urban settings from long term systemic conditions. Poverty being the biggest driver, for most of those conditions. Most urban settings are a mixed bag any way between riches and rags and various degrees in between but we know what makes headlines don't we?

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