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    #61

    Jan 23, 2020, 02:57 PM
    The sad thing is back in the day before she decided to run ,she had some reasonable economic positions worth debate and consideration .Her book ' The Two Income Trap'was a rejection of a “quasi-socialist safety net to rival the European model.” She was a true believer in Reaganomics . She was in fact a registered Republican until 1996 .

    Her early academic work emphasized the efficiency of free markets .
    One of her first papers as a full-time professor at the University of Houston
    she argued that utility companies were over-regulated. She would never take that position today.

    Her 'road to Damascus ' conversion came hen she was on a commission to reform bankruptcy laws. It was there that she concocted the blue print that became the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
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    Jan 24, 2020, 02:45 AM
    I guess she evolved about the money thing in America Tom. Why hold that against her?
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    Jan 25, 2020, 02:28 AM
    "conversions " happen . She went from sound economic theory to a Marxist kook who is probably more extreme than Bolshevik Bernie. She has a history of being a phony who abused Afirmative Action admission policies by making the false claim of minority status . Anyone who legitimately could qualify should be offended by her abuse of the system .
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    #64

    Jan 25, 2020, 03:33 AM
    No doubt that during an election year everybody is dealing with everything they have ever done being magnified and amplified. The longer you've been around the more stuff you have to get smeared with. I mean the small case of POSSIBLE neopotism by old Joe is sucking a lot of oxygen from the room while the dufus is defending himself on the national stage.

    Just saying there's plenty of election stuff to talk about and who knows what will stick or not, and what will come next? Personally I think the Bloomberg effect will be the biggest story for the dems because socialist Bernie is still socialist Bernie and the young dems revel in it, even as Warren and Saunders are stuck in DC, sipping milk.
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    #65

    Jan 25, 2020, 06:02 AM
    Demo POTUS candidates are all radical leftists. America doesn't need communism cloaked as idealism: Its the same old Marxist song: The Demo candidate watermelon is green on the outside and red as hell on the inside.
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    #66

    Jan 25, 2020, 06:50 AM
    The dufus didn't win the popular vote last time and barely squeaked by in the EC. Now everybody knows what they're getting and to be REAL, those communist lefty radicals don't look as bad standing next to the dufus.
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    #67

    Jan 25, 2020, 06:54 AM
    So you're perfectly willing to vote for "those communist lefty radicals"?
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    Jan 25, 2020, 07:01 AM
    YUP, without hesitation or remorse. Whoever wins the dem nomination. If the plan A works we impeach the dufus, send Pence back to Indiana and anoint Pelosi to fill out the term.

    There is talk of exiling the dufus and his whole administration to Russia, but Vlad may not stand for that!
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    #69

    Jan 25, 2020, 07:09 AM
    You do realize that Pence would become pres if Trump is impeached?

    I am beyond amazed to hear any American admit a willingness to vote for a communist, and even shocked to consider that it is you saying it.
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    Jan 25, 2020, 07:28 AM
    Maybe I don't put much stock into right wing talking points. Not like I haven't heard it all before you know. Or maybe I am old enough to tell the difference between reality and BS!

    Either way you righties gave us the dufus in the first place so maybe your credibility ain't all that reliable.
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    Jan 25, 2020, 07:42 AM
    Either way you righties gave us the dufus in the first place so maybe your credibility ain't all that reliable.
    I'm not sure I believe that the words "credible" and "politician" can go together. I think all you can go on are past performance and what they say they will do, realizing that part of what they say they will do will never get done. Honesty seems to be put way back on the rear burner.
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    Jan 25, 2020, 08:18 AM
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    #73

    Jan 25, 2020, 10:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You do realize that Pence would become pres if Trump is impeached?
    Trump HAS BEEN impeached. Whachu bin watchin' on TV, Willis?
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    #74

    Jan 25, 2020, 11:01 AM
    Trump HAS BEEN impeached. Whachu bin watchin' on TV, Willis?
    Semantics
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    Jan 25, 2020, 11:33 AM
    Well, go ahead and relish the Impeachment of Trump because you won't be laughing long: Trump will become the FIRST IMPEACHED PRESIDENT TO WIN ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL TERM!

    The left is petty: SO PETTY!
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    Jan 25, 2020, 11:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Well, go ahead and relish the Impeachment of Trump because you won't be laughing long: Trump will become the FIRST IMPEACHED PRESIDENT TO WIN ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL TERM!

    The left is petty: SO PETTY!
    I'm not left; I'm a Republican. Trump will lose the election if he hasn't had a psychotic break yet. He makes less and less sense every day.
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    #77

    Jan 25, 2020, 12:02 PM
    I'm not left;
    If your comments on this board genuinely reflect who you are, then you're thoroughly left. You're to the left of anyone else on this board I can think of, and that's really saying something. Your unending praise of Obama and HC speaks volumes.
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    #78

    Jan 25, 2020, 12:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If your comments on this board genuinely reflect who you are, then you're thoroughly left. You're to the left of anyone else on this board I can think of, and that's really saying something. Your unending praise of Obama and HC speaks volumes.
    I have never praised Hillary and only once or twice have mentioned Obama, mostly in defense of lies about him by others.

    As far as required vasectomies, I never said they'd be demanded by the government. You added that tidbit.
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    Jan 25, 2020, 12:26 PM
    As far as required vasectomies, I never said they'd be demanded by the government. You added that tidbit.
    Yeah. It would be a voluntary program? So who would "require" (your word) them to be done? Come on. It was an outrageous, extreme left-wing suggestion. Like I have said, I most fervently hope that the dem nominee will pick it up and run with it. You can be sure that no conservative will.
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    Jan 25, 2020, 12:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. It would be a voluntary program? So who would "require" (your word) them to be done? Come on. It was an outrageous, extreme left-wing suggestion. Like I have said, I most fervently hope that the dem nominee will pick it up and run with it. You can be sure that no conservative will.
    It would be required by the adults in a family who realize how out of control young men can get. Those adults would be backed by the AMA, APA, and most religious groups. Just think of the angst you'd be spared! No more pregnancies out of wedlock, thus no more abortions!

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