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    #81

    Jun 27, 2019, 07:20 PM
    Choice is a good thing. That is being denied to too many parents.
    That would be an enormous step forward.
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    Jun 27, 2019, 09:49 PM
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    Choice is a good thing. That is being denied to too many parents. and teacherjenn4 ;I applaud your tireless efforts .
    Thank you! Summers are shorter than ever, but I can see retirement is not so far off, thank goodness.

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    That would be an enormous step forward.
    I’m not sure why more school districts don’t create schools of choice. If they don’t abide by the rules, they’re done.
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    Jun 28, 2019, 02:43 AM
    Iím not sure why more school districts donít create schools of choice. If they donít abide by the rules, theyíre done.
    That's a really good question. In one district I used to work in, a city of about 35,000, parents could choose to send their child to a different school in the district as long as the school had room for them. The parent had to transport the child, and the child had to behave, but a year after I left they decided to drop that. In our case, out of about 400 students, about 100 were of that transfer variety.

    One thing that tends to work against choice is the fact that the governing officials of the district lose that aspect of control. Federal court decisions also can be a real problem.
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    #84

    Jun 28, 2019, 03:55 AM
    What did they do with the kids on those waiting lists, when there is no more room? Why are all schools not meeting the same standard? What of those families with no transportation or who work those hours where they cannot drop off and pick up their kids? What about those families that can't afford child care or have special needs kids, or even the extended family support? A town of 35,000 has an inner city? Or did you mean a poor section of town?

    I have said before how teachers are the pillars of the community, under valued but dedicated, and I also feel schools are the foundations of the community. There is something inherently wrong with a community that has a dilapidated building for a school and those are found in the real inner cities where its so easy to suck and redirect the resources away from the community that needs them.

    My kick about school choice is some, MOST, don't have that choice. I worry about those left behind that their needs cannot be met.
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    Jun 28, 2019, 04:15 AM
    My kick about school choice is some, MOST, don't have that choice. I worry about those left behind that their needs cannot be met.
    I'm thinking the answer is two fold. First, run all schools properly. It is not a money problem, it's a will problem. We must have the will to be sure that all schools are orderly and focused on learning. Secondly, we should recognize that parents have authority over their own children, not the government, so parents should be free to enroll their children where they want. Yes, available room can be a problem as can transportation, but the world is not a perfect place. It would still be an effort to maximize liberty.

    And yes, medium sized towns have inner city areas.

    Why are all schools not meeting the same standard?
    In part it's because not all schools have the same students. It's like asking why all football teams don't go undefeated.
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    Jun 28, 2019, 04:47 AM
    Good laugh for the morning.

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    #87

    Jun 28, 2019, 08:43 AM
    Aw man, still having trouble with those attachments! I really needed a good laugh. The dem debate just didn't do it.
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    Jun 28, 2019, 09:10 AM
    Tried it again. Copy and paste won't work anymore, or at least not for me. Oh well.Name:  aoc.jpg
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    #89

    Jun 28, 2019, 10:08 AM
    JL 2 Me 0

    Okay ya got a chuckle from me! TY
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    #90

    Jun 28, 2019, 10:52 AM
    I figured you'd like it. There's one in every family!!
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    Jun 28, 2019, 01:35 PM
    She would've won the day if she started speaking Cherokee .
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    Jul 1, 2019, 02:02 PM
    BTW this is my new favorite Democrat candidate . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JA6gYXEdwY
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    Jul 1, 2019, 02:10 PM
    i just donated $1 to her campaign so I can get on a mailing list .
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    #94

    Jul 1, 2019, 07:07 PM
    Anybody but the dufus.
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    Jul 1, 2019, 08:36 PM
    No you did that last time, anyone but Hilliary, don't do it again
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    #96

    Jul 2, 2019, 05:18 AM
    I voted for Hillary, and despite her poor Electoral College showing the bigger picture was the turnout in some areas that counted the most by dems in the middle of the country. 100,000 votes or less in 5 key states is hardly a mandate, or a huge endorsement and that pesky Vlad looms as large as ever. Even if the dufus gets elected again the dufuscans in the senate may not be around to protect him as they are now.

    One can hope.
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    Jul 2, 2019, 07:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I voted for Hillary, and despite her poor Electoral College showing the bigger picture was the turnout in some areas that counted the most by dems in the middle of the country. 100,000 votes or less in 5 key states is hardly a mandate, or a huge endorsement and that pesky Vlad looms as large as ever. Even if the dufus gets elected again the dufuscans in the senate may not be around to protect him as they are now.

    One can hope.
    get over it, the electoral college elected Trump which proves that the population of a few states cannot run the country
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    #98

    Jul 2, 2019, 07:22 AM
    I've been over it. It is what it is and dems must do better. Simple as that.
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    Jul 2, 2019, 07:49 AM
    dems must do better.
    Probably could be said of both parties.
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    Jul 2, 2019, 08:30 AM
    Yeah true, but if dems don't do better at turnout we get the dufus and a dufuscan senate again. That's a horrible thought to me. More of the same crap for two years at least? We can do better.

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