[tableclocks]

If I fed a small sub panel.. is a 220 volt 30 breaker... 30 amps on each side or 15 amps on each side.. so if its 30 amps on each I use 10 ga wire... tks... richard

[stanfortyman]

A breaker is what it says on the handle. You do not add them or divide them.
A 30A two pole breaker is just that, 30A @ 240V.
A 15A single pole breaker is 15A @ 120V, and so on.

And yes, typically #10cu wire is protected by a 30A breaker.

[tableclocks]

That's 220 volts 10 gage wire.. 30 amp breaker... is that 30 amps on each of my 110 lines ? Tks

[donf]

Let's try it this way.

If you are feeding a panelboard with 2 ungrounded (hot) conductors without a Neutral conductor, the panel is a 240 (Line to Line or Phase to Phase) volt panel.

In order for you to have 120 volt branch circuits in this panelboard, you must also bring a "Neutral" conductor to the panelboard. 120 volt is derived by a Line to Neutral connections.

You cannot use a Line to Ground connection to create a 120 volt circuit.

Also, at the secondary panelboard, Neutral and Ground must be isolated from each other. You cannot connect a Ground conductor to the Neutral bar, nor can you connect the Neutral to the ground bar.

The ONLY place the both Neutral and Ground can be connected togerther in a residence is at the main service panelboard.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this second panelboard?

[tableclocks]

I am up grading a 220 volt 30 amp panel to about 220 volt 50 or 60 amp
I am looking for the wire now.. 6-6-6 is alunium OK ? It seens to be a lot cheaper... I seen some for 65 cents a foot.. 6-6-6 under ground...

[ma0641]

How are you upgrading? What is the rating on the panel? Just because you put in a bigger wire does not upgrade it. Your posted questions concern me in seeing you do this as a DIY project.

[tableclocks]

I plan on buying a new panel rated for what I need.. about.. I don't know 60 to 80 amps.. maybe to be used with about 6-6-6 wire.. aluminum.. if its OK because it seens to be a lot... a lot cheaper... I know to use the no ox... I know how to do all this... just now sure about the wire sizes copper v aluminum... 150 foot run... I know about the bonding and lack of it... I was thinking a 12 or 16 space panel w/o a breaker just a 60 amp 220 volt from my main 200 amp box... and a disconnect at the sub panel... I am sure a wire rated 50 or 60 amps on each of the 120 volts sides will be plenty... your thoughts please... thanks for your time and concern... Richard
if you see it I posted the page for the wire...tks..

[tableclocks]

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