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    Jun 16, 2013, 06:11 AM
    My husband has opened a life insurance policy naming his daughter as the beneficiary
    We reside in NY. My husband has opened a $100K life insurance policy naming his daughter by a previous marriage as sole beneficiary as well as his bank accounts which have approximately $30K in it. He does not have a will. If he should pass before me, would I be entitled to any of the money if I contest?
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    Jun 16, 2013, 06:26 AM
    No.
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    Jun 16, 2013, 07:44 AM
    Hello s:

    The life insurance, no.. But, the money in the bank accounts is HALF yours, and it may be ALL yours when he dies.

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    Jun 16, 2013, 08:13 AM
    excon: not if he named a beneficiary.
    A lot of people don't realize that you can do that, and it's a good way to have funds released immediately rather than having bank accounts go into the estate and have to wait for probate.
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    Jun 16, 2013, 08:25 AM
    Hello again, joy:
    excon: not if he named a beneficiary.
    The money in the bank is not HIS to give away. New York is an equitable distribution state when relating to marital property. Half that money is HERS.

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    Jun 16, 2013, 08:37 AM
    NY is not a community property state. The wife is not entitled to half, or even half added to the account after marriage, when there is a Payable on Death bank account set up.
    She might get certain expenses paid for, along with other creditors such as funeral homes, out of the account, if the deceased didn't set aside funds for that. She might even get half, or all, but it's not a sure thing by any stretch.
    POD accounts are called by different names, even in NY state.
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    Jun 16, 2013, 11:20 AM
    You refer to them as "his" accounts. If your name is not on them, he is free to do with them as he will.
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    Jun 16, 2013, 12:40 PM
    The following http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LA...2+&TARGET=VIEW of the New York State Estates, Powers and Trusts Code may apply:

    "§ 5-1.1 Right of election by surviving spouse
    ...
    (b) Inter vivos dispositions treated as testamentary substitutes for
    the purpose of election by surviving spouse.
    (1) Where a person dies after August thirty-first, nineteen hundred
    sixty-six and is survived by a spouse who exercises a right of election
    under paragraph (c),
    the following transactions effected by such
    decedent at any time after the date of the marriage and after August
    thirty-first, nineteen hundred sixty-six, whether benefiting the
    surviving spouse or any other person, shall be treated as testamentary
    substitutes and the capital value thereof, as of the decedent's death,
    included in the net estate subject to the surviving spouse's elective
    right:

    (A) Gifts causa mortis.
    (B) Money deposited, after August thirty-first, nineteen hundred
    sixty-six, together with all dividends credited thereon, in a savings
    account in the name of the decedent in trust for another person, with a
    banking organization, savings and loan association, foreign banking
    corporation or organization or bank or savings and loan association
    organized under the laws of the United States, and remaining on deposit
    at the date of the decedent's death.
    (C) Money deposited, after August thirty-first, nineteen hundred
    sixty-six, together with all dividends credited thereon, in the name of
    the decedent and another person and payable on death, pursuant to the
    terms of the deposit or by operation of law, to the survivor, with a
    banking organization, savings and loan association, foreign banking
    corporation or organization or bank or savings and loan association
    organized under the laws of the United States, and remaining on deposit
    at the date of the decedent's death.
    (D) Any disposition of property made by the decedent after August
    thirty-first, nineteen hundred sixty-six whereby property is held, at
    the date of his death, by the decedent and another person as joint
    tenants with a right of survivorship or as tenants by the entirety.
    (E) Any disposition of property made by the decedent after August
    thirty-first, nineteen hundred sixty-six, in trust or otherwise, to the
    extent that the decedent at the date of his death retained, either alone
    or in conjunction with another person, by the express provisions of the
    disposing instrument, a power to revoke such disposition or a power to
    consume, invade or dispose of the principal thereof.
    The provisions of
    this paragraph shall not affect the right of any income beneficiary to
    the income undistributed or accrued at the date of death.
    ..."

    In other words, the wife may be able to get the funds after the husband's death.
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    Jun 16, 2013, 01:47 PM
    I don't get it. What about the very last sentence? Can you translate?
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    Jun 16, 2013, 05:34 PM
    I'm in NY - I was under the impression that the beneficiary rules where life insurance is concerned and accounts which name a beneficiary or are joint go as directed - the other person or the beneficiary.

    For these reasons my husband hired an estate planner.

    The Attorney and estate planner were wrong?

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