[tomder55]

Actually not any more.. .

Julia Gillard attacked with a sandwich... again - Telegraph

[NeedKarma]

An important Current Event!

[tomder55]

It was when shoes were being thrown at Bush

[NeedKarma]

People were making fun of the assailant, not the victim, as you are.

[tomder55]

Uh yeah right..

[paraclete]

Even the children are displaying their disgust at the behaviour of this government

[tomder55]

Our children protest the Michelle Obama menu selection by throwing their food in the garbage can

[paraclete]

This is just one legacy of the gillard government just one stuff up after another

How the National Broadband Network became an asbestos minefield | News.com.au

Terrorist was mistakenly cleared by ASIO as asylum seeker

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-3...ce-mot/4724796
Opposition moves for impeachment vote

[paraclete]

our children protest the Michelle Obama menu selection by throwing their food in the garbage can

Our kids have political savvy they know where the garbage can is

[Tuttyd]

our kids have political savvy they know where the garbage can is

One good thing (probably the only good thing) to come out of the Gillard government was the bipartisan agreement for a National Disability Scheme.

DisabilityCare Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[paraclete]

One good thing (probably the only good thing) to come out of the Gillard government was the bipartisan agreement for a National Disability Scheme.

DisabilityCare Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes Tutt a plus but the funding is by no means settled, that levy raises far more than needed, what a rip off, just one more indication the government giveth and the government taketh away''

One plus cannot undo all the waste,the broken promises, the momumental stuffups and crap we have had to put up with listening to that egotistical woodpecker for three years

[tomder55]

Yes Tutt a plus but the funding is by no means settled, that levy raises far more than needed, what a rip off, just one more indication the government giveth and the government taketh away''

one plus cannot undo all the waste,the broken promises, the momumental stuffups and crap we have had to put up with listening to that egotistical woodpecker for three years

Don't worry ;the government will find a way to turn the funding into the red . On the surface disability care is low hanging fruit . We all agree that the disabled should be included in the safety net. But there are costs and unexpected costs that almost always inflates the budgets of these permanent entitlements. As always the burden will fall on the young workers trying to start families ,buy 1st homes ,establish a career .

[paraclete]

We don't mind the care package Tom what we mind is the opportunism to line the coffers long before they costs are incurred.

[Tuttyd]

Don't worry ;the government will find a way to turn the funding into the red . On the surface disability care is low hanging fruit . We all agree that the disabled should be included in the safety net. But there are costs and unexpected costs that almost always inflates the budgets of these permanent entitlements. As always the burden will fall on the young workers trying to start families ,buy 1st homes ,establish a carreer .

There would be a large majority of Australians who support such a concept. As Clete says, the funding is yet to be settled. We have a tendency to think in terms of, "a fair go for all". After that we can worry about the economics. We tend to look at things the other way round.

[paraclete]

There would be a large majority of Australians who support such a concept. As Clete says, the funding is yet to be settled. We have a tendency to think in terms of, "a fair go for all". After that we can worry about the economics. We tend to look at things the other way round.

Tom hasn't read the fine print, the scheme is touted as an insurance scheme not a safety net

National Disability Insurance Scheme

I thought yanks loved insurance schemes

[tomder55]

Didn't Red Julia promise to spend money in schools in districts where the elections are in doubt ? Seems kind of ungrateful for students to be tossing their lunch at her.

[paraclete]

didn't Red Julia promise to spend money in schools in districts where the elections are in doubt ? Seems kinda ungrateful for students to be tossing their lunch at her.

There is a grand new scheme called Gonski that not everyone is on board for. It promises to spend billions on secondary education some of the losers are higher education, going back to the NDIS, this scheme is a sham being rolled out selectively in Labor heartland and over a long time, the initial figures suggest 26,000 will benefit if they can pass the criteria and it cuts off once you get the pension and enter long term care like a nursing home

School funding review compromised - SSTUWA - State School Teachers' Union of Western Australia

https://theconversation.com/topics/gonski-review

[tomder55]

There would be a large majority of Australians who support such a concept. As Clete says, the funding is yet to be settled. We have a tendency to think in terms of, "a fair go for all". After that we can worry about the economics. We tend to look at things the other way round.

Yeah that's called kick the can down the road. When they get around to it ,they pass temporary fixes that kicks the can further down the road . Fact is that as the population ages more people become eligible for things like disability benefits . And as always ,the ratio of those eligible, to those who can or will be required to pay for shrinks . Australia like most of the West has decided to become a sub-replacement fertility nation. So I ask again... who pays for it ?

Tom hasn't read the fine print, the scheme is touted as an insurance scheme not a safety net

National Disability Insurance Scheme

I thought yanks loved insurance schemes

I am unfortunately all too familiar with entitlements that mascaraed as insurance schemes .
They all resemble either Ponzi or pyramid schemes to me .

[Tuttyd]

yeah that's called kick the can down the road. When they get around to it ,they pass temporary fixes that kicks the can further down the road . Fact is that as the population ages more people become eligible for things like disability benefits . And as always ,the ratio of those eligible, to those who can or will be required to pay for shrinks . Australia like most of the West has decided to become a sub-replacement fertility nation. So I ask again... who pays for it ?

Ultimately the tax payer is the answer to your question.

We, "kick the can down the road" as well as any nation and better than most. In fact over the years we have made it an art form.

"A fair go for all" obviously doesn't seems to get a response, so I will rephrase it:

A fairer go for those individuals who are best able or suited to clamber to the top of the pile.

[paraclete]

yeah that's called kick the can down the road. When they get around to it ,they pass temporary fixes that kicks the can further down the road . Fact is that as the population ages more people become eligible for things like disability benefits . And as always ,the ratio of those eligible, to those who can or will be required to pay for shrinks . Australia like most of the West has decided to become a sub-replacement fertility nation. So I ask again... who pays for it ?

Sounds like picque to me, you didn't think of it first and Tom, the taxpayer always pays I though that was a no brainer. No this scheme has bipartisian support, something both parties can tout as success in an election year, but I expect the scheme will be highly modified after the initial rollout, when as they say, you have to pass it to find out what's in it. I did already tell you that it cuts out for older people. For disability read, developmental disorder, congenital birth defect, cerebral palsey, brain damage, mongolism

I am unfortunately all too familiar with entitlements that mascaraed as insurance schemes .
They all resemble either Ponzi or pyramid schemes to me .

No Tom in this case the ones who get the benefits aren't the contributors, but what is put into it will be locked away, no doubt to meet future liabilities